World Cup 2018 | 28th June | England vs Belgium Match Thread, KO 19:00 (BST)

[schfc6]

Don't know what you're on about, great vision, workrate, constantly making brilliant runs.

Sky says, "positive and tried the right things"

Going on to say his miss was unfortunate but he scores them 9/10 times.

 

[bluemoon32]

England didn't lose on purpose, all last night showed is that Belgium's reserves are better than England's.
The concern for Southgate will be that no one really put their hand up to be included in his thoughts for his best starting 11

 

[BlueHammer85]

You ended up with the harder tie by trying to get 2nd place, couldn’t even get that right.

We will just have to agree to differ on how you went about it, or Belgium for that matter.

One thing it did show about the squad is you better hope the 1st choices don’t get injured. That’s the main thing I concluded.

Anyway, Columbia are tasty, whereas Japan look much more beatable. If you go out after this it’s a total fuck up. No question of that.

pfft! if we go out we go out, what difference does it make beating Japan and losing to Brazil ?

if we beat Columbia (tough game) then we have a much better route

either way was fine, just a tougher last 16 match but easier route - most England fans would have taken that before hand.

that game didn't show much, just gave 2nd choice good run out, cant judge much more than that . unless you're Scottish and bitter of course ;)

 

[Tom_mcfc]

I'm laughing because he didn't make any yet every time he broke into a run it was a 'good run' even if Belgium were in possession. Miscontrolling a simple pass and handing it to a Belgian in space 10 yards away was great vision.

Which is what I’m trying to say. You seen Rashfords play for what it was. No loyalty to him and can see he had a bad game. My point being everyone on here scrambled over each other when it is Sterling playing that badly to make up some weird reason as to why he wasn’t as bad. If sterling had missed that rashford chance everyone would be saying what a great run and vision to be in that position to have that chance. It’s backwards. Both should be treated the same, by the media and the fans

 

[IH8MUFC]

You ended up with the harder tie by trying to get 2nd place, couldn’t even get that right.

We will just have to agree to differ on how you went about it, or Belgium for that matter.

One thing it did show about the squad is you better hope the 1st choices don’t get injured. That’s the main thing I concluded.

Anyway, Columbia are tasty, whereas Japan look much more beatable. If you go out after this it’s a total fuck up. No question of that.

Coming top would mean playing Japan then the winner of Brasil/Mexico. Most likely Brasil.

Coming 2nd means playing Columbia and then the winner of Sweeden/Switzerland. I'll go with Sweeden for that.

I would personally say that playing Columbia, Sweden and Switzerland are all 50/50 games. Playing Japan and Mexico are 50/50 games. There's very little chance of us beating Brasil. So the smart thing to do was to come 2nd in the group and try to win 2 50/50 games than a 50/50 game then a 10/90 game.

We might go out to Columbia, but prior to being an expert after the fact the smart thing was to finish 2nd in the group. Then try to beat lesser nations to get as far as possible than playing Brasil in the quarter finals. We could be in the semi's before we even play a team that is one of the main tournament favourites in Spain.

It's amazing how people are so obsessed with criticising England and Southgate that they can't see this. He 100% made the best decision to lose with all of the facts that were presented to him at the time of the game.

 

[bluemoon32]

Coming top would mean playing Japan then the winner of Brasil/Mexico. Most likely Brasil.

Coming 2nd means playing Columbia and then the winner of Sweeden/Switzerland. I'll go with Sweeden for that.

I would personally say that playing Columbia, Sweden and Switzerland are all 50/50 games. Playing Japan and Mexico are 50/50 games. There's very little chance of us beating Brasil. So the smart thing to do was to come 2nd in the group and try to win 2 50/50 games than a 50/50 game then a 10/90 game.

We might go out to Columbia, but prior to being an expert after the fact the smart thing was to finish 2nd in the group. Then try to beat lesser nations to get as far as possible than playing Brasil in the quarter finals. We could be in the semi's before we even play a team that is one of the main tournament favourites in Spain.

It's amazing how people are so obsessed with criticising England and Southgate that they can't see this. He 100% made the best decision to lose with all of the facts that were presented to him at the time of the game.

He didn't lose on purpose

 

[Leto]

You ended up with the harder tie by trying to get 2nd place, couldn’t even get that right.

We will just have to agree to differ on how you went about it, or Belgium for that matter.

One thing it did show about the squad is you better hope the 1st choices don’t get injured. That’s the main thing I concluded.

Anyway, Columbia are tasty, whereas Japan look much more beatable. If you go out after this it’s a total fuck up. No question of that.

Colombia.

If you're going to be a WUM at least spell the country's name right.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Which is what I’m trying to say. You seen Rashfords play for what it was. No loyalty to him and can see he had a bad game. My point being everyone on here scrambled over each other when it is Sterling playing that badly to make up some weird reason as to why he wasn’t as bad. If sterling had missed that rashford chance everyone would be saying what a great run and vision to be in that position to have that chance. It’s backwards. Both should be treated the same, by the media and the fans

They really, really wouldn't.

 

[Dave S]

You ended up with the harder tie by trying to get 2nd place, couldn’t even get that right.

We will just have to agree to differ on how you went about it, or Belgium for that matter.

One thing it did show about the squad is you better hope the 1st choices don’t get injured. That’s the main thing I concluded.

Anyway, Columbia are tasty, whereas Japan look much more beatable. If you go out after this it’s a total fuck up. No question of that.

Exactly right!

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I think Southgate played it well. Weakened team to make sure we get the right result. Colombia will know they have to face our A-team and that they have been brilliant.