World Cup VAR

It seems to me that the biggest part of the problem is with the handball rule.

IT HAS TO BE DELIBERATE

Agreed, it's hard to tell, but you can't go around giving pens, 'overruling yourself' and taking 5 mins to make a (wrong) decision.

It's shite and yet another tool for corruption.
 
True but yesterday he was waving his arms about in the box and then seemed shocked it hit his hand.
Ref completely missed it, var gave it. I'm happy with that
 
VAR gave the opportunity for the Ref to have a clear look at different angles. What hope do Refs have before VAR ??! just blindly guessing.
He got a proper review and saw it as a penalty (I thought it was aswell - he blocked ball coming across 6 yard area more instinctively than purposely)

Overall, major success. This World Cup will be remembered as one of the best ever and VAR has only enhanced the entertainment, amazing how many penalty’s would have previously been missed - also will never forget Naymer embarrassing dive against Japan and the ref reviewing the penalty and seeing it wasn’t. Thank f*ck for VAR I say.
 
quiet_riot said:
It seems to me that the biggest part of the problem is with the handball rule.

IT HAS TO BE DELIBERATE

Agreed, it's hard to tell, but you can't go around giving pens, 'overruling yourself' and taking 5 mins to make a (wrong) decision.

It's shite and yet another tool for corruption.
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Hackett makes a good point in today's DT. He suggests that watching handball in slo-mo makes it appear worse than it is. Handball needs to be watch in real time, several times, from different angles. The fact that the Argie ref had a couple of looks makes me think that he wasn't 100%. But if yer following FICKFUFA instructions . . . . . . . . .!

I wanted VAR from the outset, many seasons ago, because I had seen enough matches where teams were walking off with points to which they had no entitlement. Refs got it serially and seriously wrong. And there were bigger howlers than Lloris could ever come up with! But to see a World Cup Final decided, incorrectly, by using a system that should be foolproof, makes it clear that this sport has not moved on one jot.
 
Given that the ref took an age to give the penalty it is obvious that he wasn't sure whether or not it was a clear and obvious error he had made. In rugby certain clashes in slo mo look a lot worse than in real time hence why the refs look at it from all angels in real time as well as slo mo. This ref only appeared to look at the slo mo replays - did he not see the flick from Matuidi. If Perisic had deliberately handled the ball following a flick then given he was less than a yard away he must have the quickest reflexes in the world. Never should have been a penalty and never should in the future be a penalty. VAR is surely to be used in instances where refs give penalties when they think it is handball but in actual fact has hit someone's back outside the box. VAR has show to be pretty useless when a certain decision is wanted.
 
Eds said:
Given that the ref took an age to give the penalty it is obvious that he wasn't sure whether or not it was a clear and obvious error he had made. In rugby certain clashes in slo mo look a lot worse than in real time hence why the refs look at it from all angels in real time as well as slo mo. This ref only appeared to look at the slo mo replays - did he not see the flick from Matuidi. If Perisic had deliberately handled the ball following a flick then given he was less than a yard away he must have the quickest reflexes in the world. Never should have been a penalty and never should in the future be a penalty. VAR is surely to be used in instances where refs give penalties when they think it is handball but in actual fact has hit someone's back outside the box. VAR has show to be pretty useless when a certain decision is wanted.
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how is that VAR fault ?

all VAR does is give the ref an opportunity to review a decision if he is not sure. he checked the monitor, rather than guessing !! and concluded it was a handball - i agree with him
 
CharliesRightPeg said:
True but yesterday he was waving his arms about in the box and then seemed shocked it hit his hand.
Ref completely missed it, var gave it. I'm happy with that
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I thought opposition players were not allowed to call for VAR, but it seemed yesterday, that is exactly what happened. That decision would not have gone to VAR if if wasn't for the French players protests.

FWIW I didn't think it was a deliberate handball, and it didn't really change the trajectory of the ball; it would have still gone out of play.

If we are going to let players dictate the VAR, then it instantly opens up another avenue for cheating, i.e. disrupting the flow of the game on purpose to gain an advantage.
 
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