World Cup VAR

But, another big issue is the time being added on for VAR decisions.
Stopped clock with the ball out of play. Should have been done years back. Fuck all to do with VAR as well. The time the ball is in play in a 90 minute game is between 53 and 66 minutes in the last season and it drops every season. That's 66 minutes max, as in the longest we've seen. A compulsory stopped clock eradicates time wasting.
 
Stopped clock with the ball out of play. Should have been done years back. Fuck all to do with VAR as well. The time the ball is in play in a 90 minute game is between 53 and 66 minutes in the last season and it drops every season. That's 66 minutes max, as in the longest we've seen. A compulsory stopped clock eradicates time wasting.
No. Not all situations where the ball is off the field are equal.

The ball going out for a throw-in, corner or goal kick (within reason) are not stoppages in play per se. But injuries, substitutions, goals, or VAR decisions are actual stoppages, so should be treated as such IMO. If that means having an official time-keeper who stops the clock and playing 50+ mins per half then fine by me (I don't leave early), but they will never reduce the halves to 30 odd minutes or whatever and then insist on the clock stopping whenever the ball goes out. Never.
 
It's a mess isn't it?

Replacing the fallible decisions of refs with the fallible decisions of full kit wankers in booths. It's not an improvement and makes the game even more susceptible to corruption and bent decisions.

Not a fan
 
No. Not all situations where the ball is off the field are equal.

The ball going out for a throw-in, corner or goal kick (within reason) are not stoppages in play per se. But injuries, substitutions, goals, or VAR decisions are actual stoppages, so should be treated as such IMO. If that means having an official time-keeper who stops the clock and playing 50+ mins per half then fine by me (I don't leave early), but they will never reduce the halves to 30 odd minutes or whatever and then insist on the clock stopping whenever the ball goes out. Never.
They're all stoppages. The Saints keeper wasted 19 minutes taking goal kicks at the Etihad last season.
 
It's a mess isn't it?

Replacing the fallible decisions of refs with the fallible decisions of full kit wankers in booths. It's not an improvement and makes the game even more susceptible to corruption and bent decisions.

Not a fan
Yep, its a mess.

It needs to be "clear and obvious" to the match going fan, and those watching on TV, so let us see what is being reviewed, and why, on all occasions. Simple really, or f**k it off completely.
 
It's not even VAR that's the problem. It's the standard of refereeing where every single one of them have probably never kicked a ball in their life and want to be the stars of the show and being the matchwinners by handing penalties out like confetti. The rules of the game need to be clarified simple as.
 
So, the defender deliberately zig zags to block Ronaldo from chasing the ball, he tries to get past him, actually just brushing against him. The actress rolls around on the floor crying, ref says play on.
Some knob in a room thinks this is a Red card? Effing laughable.
The defender should have got the yellow, not yer man.
Bollocks. Ronaldo knew exactly what he was doing and has previous for this kind of stuff, even earlier in the season against Girona.





Remember he used to kick out all the time (and get away with it playing for United)

He's a petulant twat
 
Bollocks. Ronaldo knew exactly what he was doing and has previous for this kind of stuff, even earlier in the season against Girona.





Remember he used to kick out all the time (and get away with it playing for United)

He's a petulant twat

Still wasn't a red card though, despite Fake being a ****.
 
I'd have given the Iranian a yellow and Tranny a red. I'd have called the Iranian on deliberate obstruction and Tranny would have walked for violent conduct. Whether he connected fully or not isn't the issue, the intent to hit him in the face was there.
No mate, the intent was never there, he was trying to get past the lad. Hate leads to anger, anger leads to fear, fear leads to the dark side. Don't act like a rag. Fake was only trying to get to the ball.
 
No mate, the intent was never there, he was trying to get past the lad. Hate leads to anger, anger leads to fear, fear leads to the dark side. Don't act like a rag. Fake was only trying to get to the ball.
I just see it different, the initial elbow in the back then when the Iranian player moves direction Ronaldo then goes again. Yep the Iranian made a meal of it but hey I saw Aguero red carded for less albeit after the match
 
Been a big critic of VAR and last night was chaos BUT some of that chaos was down to pure bad/weak refereeing.
I do think, however, we are seeing laid bare how VAR could be used to enhance corruption which has always been my biggest fear (especially as a City supporter).
 
In every game, there are a load of minor incidents go unpunished. There is a pen at pretty much every set piece. People said 'players will stop fouling' . Will they fuck.

Now, at any time, the v.a.r. can suggest to a ref he 'perhaps' should give a pen. Then not bother, in the next game. An honest ref might refuse. A bent one, can create a score or result at any time.& have previously normal people argue it's ok.

Purely because v.a.r. is 'better'.
This sums it up perfectly for me. I'm keen to see some form of VAR used to improve the game but it was always obvious to me that this current system has some pretty major flaws.

It's far too arbitrary and has simply introduced another way for match officials to potentially influence the result. There's just no consistency in how it's applied and that was always going to be the downfall of this version.
 
I just see it different, the initial elbow in the back then when the Iranian player moves direction Ronaldo then goes again. Yep the Iranian made a meal of it but hey I saw Aguero red carded for less albeit after the match

We are reffed according to Set 2 of the LotG. We are the only team and our players the only ones who have to abide by this set!
 
Tranny should've walked for the elbow...

Still don't get Shearer being so incensed about the penalty given its not like it was England playing ffs
Was he this pissed off when the penalty was given against Sterling when the ball was hit against his back playing Spurs?
Still doing there best to undermine VAR taking an age to come to a conclusion...

Shearer and the rest of the panel all agreed VAR is the way forward.
 
Because if it's not there, they can't 'prove' a ridiculous fucking decision is correct. They can't see half of the stuff they are giving. They can guess or be tipped off, & find a foul, at almost every penalty area incident. If it's too obvious, they can just let it go & try again later.

And if it was me who was fixing it, I'd have all of the refs & v.a.r. people in my pocket either by incitement or threat of death, before the tournament.


They didn’t need to prove it before VAR though, they have to more now as everyone can see it. Take last nights game, that is generating more discussion and focus because VAR was used (and I’d be surprised if that VAR team or referee gets another game). It increases the focus and questions, not reduces them.

Add in to that VAR is also there for non subjective decisions such as offside, VAR has increased the amount of correct decisions in this World Cup so far. The logic that it is there to enhance corruption is illogical if you think what was there before.

I personally don’t like it (I readily admit to being a Luddite with these type of things). Not because of conspiracy theories though, more because I don’t think the implications and use of it have fully been thought through.
 
VAR is just another way to help the officials give the big teams what they want and the rule is clear IT HAS TO BE A CLEAR OBVIOUS MISTAKE BY THE REFEREE. well last night it was clear its not and they are using all the time to change the game and not the mistakes
 

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