Yaya Toure apologises

Pam said:
And Pellers should apologise to Bobby and Bobby should apologise to the Clueless One and the Clueless one should apologise to Stuart Peirce and on and on. What a pair of tin-eared clowns Yaya and his agent are. Comedy duo.
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The Clueless one should be apologising to Sven. Sven should be apologising to Beanie, get your facts right Pam.
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
Thats not the same as working for the Spanish FA, being their figurehead and being based in Madrid though.
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Suppose only Pep can answer that but one thing he likes is to be on the training pitch with players moulding a team and shaping young players. I don't think the long breaks between getting to work with his squad is something Pep would enjoy
 
Blueknows said:
Yaya Toure's agent Dimitri Seluk has accused Pep Guardiola of failing to handle "big personalities" while casting doubt on the Manchester City boss' coaching qualities.

Seluk drew battlelines with Guardiola on Tuesday after the latter said he would not select Toure until he apologised for his representative taking grievances over being dropped from City's Champions League squad to the media.

The outspoken Russian, who once infamously complained over City showing disrespect to Toure because they did not give him a birthday cake, appears to be in no mood to say sorry and believes Guardiola's decision to drop his client and move on Joe Hart to Torino shows weakness.

"Pep doesn't want players with personality," he told the Daily Mirror. "He only wants players who are scared of him and will do what he says.

"The first thing he did when he arrived at City was to pick a fight with Yaya and Joe Hart, two of the club's biggest players.

"Hart is England's goalkeeper; Yaya has won the African Footballer of the Year four times. They have both been big personalities in the dressing room at City and Guardiola doesn't like that.

"When you first go into someone's house then you should treat them with respect. You don't go into someone's house and ask them to leave.

"He was the same at Barcelona. He forced Samuel Eto'o to leave the club. Zlatan Ibrahimovic, a player who cost £57million, was sold for just £18million.

"It has to always be about Pep Guardiola, no-one else."

At Barcelona, Guardiola won 14 honours over the course of four seasons, collecting seven more in three subsequent years at Bayern Munich.

Nevertheless, the resources at his disposal on both occasions mean Seluk is unimpressed.

"Pep was successful at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, but take a look behind that success," he said.

"The team he took at Barca had been built by [his predecessor] Frank Rijkaard and then he was lucky to have Lionel Messi. It was Messi who made Barca, not Pep. Luis Enrique has shown that Barca's success was not down to Guardiola.

"It was the same in Munich. Bayern won the treble before Guardiola took over. They already had a great team on the pitch and a great organisation off the pitch. He couldn't fail. My grandfather could have won the league with that team.

"Carlo Ancelotti will keep Bayern at the top - but the difference is that i also think he will win the Champions League there.

"When Guardiola left Bayern there were a lot of happy people there once he had gone. He wasn't popular."

When discussing Toure's now seemingly bleak future in Manchester during the final year of his contract, Seluk said it will be a similar story at City when Guardiola's tenure there comes to an end.

"Yaya is a professional. He will keep doing everything that is asked of him and he will walk away from the club at the end of the season with his pride," he added.

"If City want to keep paying him not to play then that is up to them.

"But when his contract is over, he will tell the truth about Pep Guardiola and Manchester City's fans will not like it."
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I think he will find us fans won't give a shit what bile he comes out with when he leaves the twat
 
schfc6 said:
Thoroughly disagree, I think Toure's behaviour and the actions of his agent will have made a few players very unhappy.

As for your notions on semi pro football, a player behaving like Toure in particular through his agent would be considered being a mard arse, and you'd be treated as such.
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I'm not so sure Toure has done anything to make any player unhappy. I'm sure fans would hope and want other players to be unhappy. I get that. But generallyToure's manager whinning on TV doesn't affect Debryune or Otamendi's life. At least that's how it seems to me. Now if Toure is going around practice cursing teammates out, yelling at people and telling folks to get lost, that will have an effect i think. Hence why I challenged your position regarding Toure's actions around the team. Absent that negativity, I sincerely doubt other players are busy catching feelings over things his agent said about their manager.

That's why I said I don't know what life iks like in the big league. There are no agent's at the Semi pro level. And there are no top dogs. The very best guys were going pro later and worked on that. Everyone else tried to get better to join that train. So it's a different mentality and situation all together.
 
Blueknows said:
Yaya Toure's agent Dimitri Seluk has accused Pep Guardiola of failing to handle "big personalities" while casting doubt on the Manchester City boss' coaching qualities.

Seluk drew battlelines with Guardiola on Tuesday after the latter said he would not select Toure until he apologised for his representative taking grievances over being dropped from City's Champions League squad to the media.

The outspoken Russian, who once infamously complained over City showing disrespect to Toure because they did not give him a birthday cake, appears to be in no mood to say sorry and believes Guardiola's decision to drop his client and move on Joe Hart to Torino shows weakness.

"blah blah blah blah whinge blah," he told the Daily Mirror. "
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At Barcelona, Guardiola won 14 honours over the course of four seasons, collecting seven more in three subsequent years at Bayern Munich.

Nevertheless, the resources at his disposal on both occasions mean Seluk is unimpressed.

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When discussing Toure's now seemingly bleak future in Manchester during the final year of his contract, Seluk said it will be a similar story at City when Guardiola's tenure there comes to an end.

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Sleeping_Easy said:
Seluk thinks Yaya is some kind of special case, Pep doesn't. Pep judges every player on what they produce and not past glories. Footballs to short not to.

Yaya has been a great player for us and been involved in some big moments but all that is being eroded by his agents big mouth. If his agent continues to slate the club in a time when things are going great for us he's only going to alienate the fans even more and in turn their affection for want of a better word will lessen by the day for Yaya. Yaya only has one way to look for who's ruining his city legacy.
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Yaya is Seluk's only client and therefore his meal ticket which he now sees if about to run out.
 
Dax777 said:
I'm not so sure Toure has done anything to make any player unhappy. I'm sure fans would hope and want other players to be unhappy. I get that. But generallyToure's manager whinning on TV doesn't affect Debryune or Otamendi's life. At least that's how it seems to me. Now if Toure is going around practice cursing teammates out, yelling at people and telling folks to get lost, that will have an effect i think. Hence why I challenged your position regarding Toure's actions around the team. Absent that negativity, I sincerely doubt other players are busy catching feelings over things his agent said about their manager.

That's why I said I don't know what life iks like in the big league. There are no agent's at the Semi pro level. And there are no top dogs. The very best guys were going pro later and worked on that. Everyone else tried to get better to join that train. So it's a different mentality and situation all together.
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Rest assured they'll be thinking Yaya's agent is a bell end.

Comments such as "Pep can't manage players with big personalities" will just weaken whatever position Yaya had left in the dressing room.
 
Dax777 said:
I'm not so sure Toure has done anything to make any player unhappy. I'm sure fans would hope and want other players to be unhappy. I get that. But generallyToure's manager whinning on TV doesn't affect Debryune or Otamendi's life. At least that's how it seems to me. Now if Toure is going around practice cursing teammates out, yelling at people and telling folks to get lost, that will have an effect i think. Hence why I challenged your position regarding Toure's actions around the team. Absent that negativity, I sincerely doubt other players are busy catching feelings over things his agent said about their manager.

That's why I said I don't know what life iks like in the big league. There are no agent's at the Semi pro level. And there are no top dogs. The very best guys were going pro later and worked on that. Everyone else tried to get better to join that train. So it's a different mentality and situation all together.
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As I say, totally disagree.
 
TINY said:
Shame all this. Best player to play for us. Literally dragged us kicking and screaming to trophy after trophy. Should be remembered for all the amazing things he did for us
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No. Not best player for us.
However, he was certainly instrumental in getting us trophies and I will always adore him for that.
 
schfc6 said:
As I say, totally disagree.
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He's still not putting in in training apparently. According to Pep anyway.
He's just had four days off with a headache.

He's our biggest earner there or there abouts, footballers are human and if a team mate is getting double your wages for doing fuck all and his representative is slagging off the manager and questioning the personalities of the players, I think they'll be pissed off.
 
Dax777 said:
it is instructive that you haven't pointed out where exactly the logic was tortured. I wonder why.
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Why should I? You only respond when it suits your narrative. You want the narrative to be that Yaya is like every other footballer in the world and is just being mistreated at City. Still waiting to hear your answers to which player other than Tevez has been more of negative influence on club off the pitch.
 
He was never going to play for us again. This is just a huge fuckoff to Yaya and that parasite of an agent of his for all the shit they have spouted against the club because they thought we needed them more than they needed us. Well the tables have turned and we don't need them anymore so the club have just paid them back in equal coin. MCFC OK.
 
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