Yaya Toure - commits future to City (page 855)

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bobmcfc said:
They don’t give any attention to Yaya. This is the shittiest thing.

If they think that with the money they can buy everything, they are wrong.

And now, with Financial Fair Play for them, it’s very good if Yaya goes. They can receive money and they can show to UEFA they have money.

And they can let Manuel Pellegrini win the title with Fernando from Porto.

He concluded:

Yaya and I would agree a bet with City. If Yaya leaves the club and City win the Premier League I agree to sweep the floor at the training ground for a month for free.

But if not, Txiki and City chief executive officer Ferian Soriano would have to sweep the streets in Trafalgar Square for one day.

I think these people don’t care. Only stupid people would want Yaya to leave the club.

For me, this is a strange situation because, if you think about it, when Yaya left Barcelona it was with the same people.

Now these people come to Manchester City and Yaya must leave City.

These quotes have made me look into this a lot more...

Naturally Yaya and his agent want to remain the star or core player(s) for Man City...

Yaya and his agent knew Fernandinho was coming in last summer so they threw a tantrum, got smoothed over, signed a new contract and probably told Yaya he was very central to Pellegrini's plans alongside Fernandinho.
Yaya and his agent know that Fernando is coming (as quoted by his agent above) and understand that will mean there are 4 players in CM for 2 positions... it means they will continuously rotate and Yaya does not like this...

I really think Yaya is going no where... as said by some senior City officials he is "unsellable" and just as Ronaldo, Rooney and Messi have had their fits with their respective clubs, Yaya is our star player we have clam down...

Pellers/Txiki (possibly Khaldoon) will talk to Yaya and ensure his role is pivotal as they did last year and probably give him some kind of incentive (maybe 1 more yr on top). Yaya's versatility & movement in center midfield as well as when pushed up forward makes him unique...

Yaya wants assurances of playing regularly as he left all other clubs when he was not an important central player... that is what I believe is going on due to Fernando coming in.

Don't know if he's gonna get it is all!
 
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Seems his agent has put him over the tipping point

1) He doesn't get on with the spanish duo
2) Yaya reckons he is the main reason why city have had sucess
3) Challenging city to sell him and win the title with Fernando
4) Selling him will raise money for FFP
5) Wages are now affected by FFP in as much as they are bonus related
6) If Pellegrini is about to buy more midfield players Yaya reckons should be excluded from rotation policy of Pellegrini but won't receive assurance from the manager.

Everything to say Yaya is not happy in his present circumstances but stops short of requesting a transfer which would affect loyalty bonus. He his engineering a way out of city so that it looks as though the club want rid. Bloody daft way of doing it in my books.

Seems to me he has played his last game for City.
 
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I wonder if any other member of the squad have uttered the phrase "What a cock!" about Yaya in relation to all this shit.
 
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Rammyblues said:
Be interested to know what the stats are for winning and losing with or without him in the team?

don't think it'd matter much, he'd be replaced outright, rather than having Jack Rodwell or Javi Garcia just filling in for him.
 
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SuperSilva said:
bobmcfc said:
They don’t give any attention to Yaya. This is the shittiest thing.

If they think that with the money they can buy everything, they are wrong.

And now, with Financial Fair Play for them, it’s very good if Yaya goes. They can receive money and they can show to UEFA they have money.

And they can let Manuel Pellegrini win the title with Fernando from Porto.

He concluded:

Yaya and I would agree a bet with City. If Yaya leaves the club and City win the Premier League I agree to sweep the floor at the training ground for a month for free.

But if not, Txiki and City chief executive officer Ferian Soriano would have to sweep the streets in Trafalgar Square for one day.

I think these people don’t care. Only stupid people would want Yaya to leave the club.

For me, this is a strange situation because, if you think about it, when Yaya left Barcelona it was with the same people.

Now these people come to Manchester City and Yaya must leave City.

These quotes have made me look into this a lot more...

Naturally Yaya and his agent want to remain the star or core player(s) for Man City...

Yaya and his agent knew Fernandinho was coming in last summer so they threw a tantrum, got smoothed over, signed a new contract and probably told Yaya he was very central to Pellegrini's plans alongside Fernandinho.
Yaya and his agent know that Fernando is coming (as quoted by his agent above) and understand that will mean there are 4 players in CM for 2 positions... it means they will continuously rotate and Yaya does not like this...

I really think Yaya is going no where... as said by some senior City officials he is "unsellable" and just as Ronaldo, Rooney and Messi have had their fits with their respective clubs, Yaya is our star player we have clam down...

Pellers/Txiki (possibly Khaldoon) will talk to Yaya and ensure his role is pivotal as they did last year and probably give him some kind of incentive (maybe 1 more yr on top). Yaya's versatility & movement in center midfield as well as when pushed up forward makes him unique...

Yaya wants assurances of playing regularly as he left all other clubs when he was not an important central player... that is what I believe is going on due to Fernando coming in.

Don't know if he's gonna get it is all!

It may be a case that he wants guarantee that he will be playing regularly. But if that is so surely a man to man chat with the manager would clarify the situation.

If these comments from the agent are genuine its seems an odd way of making the manager warm towards the agents client.

All very unedifying for Ya Ya (whose greatness it seems will be solely confined to his work on the field)
 
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Surely if his spokes person came out with

Yaya and I would agree a bet with City. If Yaya leaves the club and City win the Premier League I agree to sweep the floor at the training ground for a month for free.

But if not, Txiki and City chief executive officer Ferian Soriano would have to sweep the streets in Trafalgar Square for one day.

I think these people don’t care. Only stupid people would want Yaya to leave the club.

For me, this is a strange situation because, if you think about it, when Yaya left Barcelona it was with the same people.

Now these people come to Manchester City and Yaya must leave City.

Then that's the loyality bonus null & void especially as these were subsequently confirmed in the seluk speaks for me and I agree everything tweet. So if he has already lost his bonus wtf doesnt he come clean and slap the formal transfer request in?
 
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If he isn't here next season do we push Fernandinho forward and use Fernando as a DM? or do we go and get another midfielder to play Yaya's role and keep Fernandinho as a DM?

I do think Fernandinho is limited as a DM and would be an amazing midfielder going forward. Either ways Yaya has let this drag on too much for my liking and only sorting it after the world cup leaves us in a limbo and hopefully not the club.
 
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kupest said:
If he isn't here next season do we push Fernandinho forward and use Fernando as a DM? or do we go and get another midfielder to play Yaya's role and keep Fernandinho as a DM?

I do think Fernandinho is limited as a DM and would be an amazing midfielder going forward. Either ways Yaya has let this drag on too much for my liking and only sorting it after the world cup leaves us in a limbo and hopefully not the club.

I think another CM would be brought in in addition to Fernando, to create more versatility.
 
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kupest said:
If he isn't here next season do we push Fernandinho forward and use Fernando as a DM? or do we go and get another midfielder to play Yaya's role and keep Fernandinho as a DM?

I do think Fernandinho is limited as a DM and would be an amazing midfielder going forward. Either ways Yaya has let this drag on too much for my liking and only sorting it after the world cup leaves us in a limbo and hopefully not the club.

Well if he leaves he'd have to be replaced as we like to have two players in every position.

But Fernando/Fernandinho would be first choice I guess. Maybe Pogba and Garcia on standby.
 
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Andouble said:
kupest said:
If he isn't here next season do we push Fernandinho forward and use Fernando as a DM? or do we go and get another midfielder to play Yaya's role and keep Fernandinho as a DM?

I do think Fernandinho is limited as a DM and would be an amazing midfielder going forward. Either ways Yaya has let this drag on too much for my liking and only sorting it after the world cup leaves us in a limbo and hopefully not the club.

I think another CM would be brought in in addition to Fernando, to create more versatility.

That is what I would favour though this time a classic CM, not a box-to box or limited DM, but a passing midfielder who can dictate play. Ilkay Gundogan would be my preference but is just coming back from and injury and obviously Dortmund would fight tooth and nail to hang on to him. Otherwise I wouldn't wind somebody like Mascherano or Ezequiel Cirigliano who despite being more defensive players offer a little bit more craft than most players in that position.
 
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kupest said:
If he isn't here next season do we push Fernandinho forward and use Fernando as a DM? or do we go and get another midfielder to play Yaya's role and keep Fernandinho as a DM?

I do think Fernandinho is limited as a DM and would be an amazing midfielder going forward. Either ways Yaya has let this drag on too much for my liking and only sorting it after the world cup leaves us in a limbo and hopefully not the club.

I would hope we sign a creative CM if Yaya does leave, none of our other CM options have a real playmaking ability, a Fabregas / Kroos type of player maybe, although I can't think of any player who would be available of the top of my head.
 
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There are so many echoes of the Kia Joorabchin saga here. He used to advise Tevez, De Jong and Nedum. It didn't have a happy ending. City will not be blackmailed by anyone these days. Carlos was my favourite player and Ya Ya is my current favourite. But there is nothing you can do if players want to leave. It is all a snapshot in time, Tevez was brilliant for City and so has been Ya Ya but our club will continue to make progress. We need to maximise the fee we can get for him. Not many can afford him. He says he wants to go back to Spain but Barca don't want him. Perhaps Monaco may pay up.
 
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BillyShears said:
OB1 said:
The Toure camp are not currently handling themselves in a seemly manner but Yaya is the best player in the Premier League, IMO, and it would not be out of the ordinary for them to try and exploit that.

City can choose to stay quiet and dignified and play hard ball with a player who has three years left on his contract.

The problem is that if the case is that privately what Seluk is saying to City is that Yaya wants to be better paid - then it makes his original interview with the Sun even more offensive because of the comments about Sheikhs trying to buy relationships.

To be honest in the greater scheme of things I don't really care what happens. If he stays and performs like he has done in the last 12 months wonderful. If he goes then I trust Txiki and co to know what they're doing in terms of replacements. If it was my call though and there was a seriously interested party, I'd do the deal and fuck him off without thinking twice.

I don't know exactly what Yaya wants but I suspect it about more than respect. They must want something though and, with a player who is probably at his peak, they may think that they have some leverage.

Seluk obviously does not think Yaya would be easy to replace and I would be inclined to agree about that. However, there are different ways to skin a cat and I believe that we could let him go and make changes to the squad that will enable us to retain the title. Whether or not our chances of doing so without Yaya would be as good, I could not begin to say at this moment.

I am pretty chilled about the whole thing.
 
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I just went back 30 odd pages to try and find out the latest, only to find everyone calling each other rags and planning on buying a few 8 balls. Can somebody please point me in the right direction of some intellegent conversation as, as you may know, I only partake in the serious side of the site. Thank you.
 
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Uptopbob said:
kupest said:
If he isn't here next season do we push Fernandinho forward and use Fernando as a DM? or do we go and get another midfielder to play Yaya's role and keep Fernandinho as a DM?

I do think Fernandinho is limited as a DM and would be an amazing midfielder going forward. Either ways Yaya has let this drag on too much for my liking and only sorting it after the world cup leaves us in a limbo and hopefully not the club.

I would hope we sign a creative CM if Yaya does leave, none of our other CM options have a real playmaking ability, a Fabregas / Kroos type of player maybe, although I can't think of any player who would be available of the top of my head.

Fernandinho has no play making abilities ?
 
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waspish said:
I know YAYA starts most games but isn't our win ratio higher when he isn't in the team?
I don't know tbh, but from memory the games he didn't play season just gone were against lower league opposition for the most part and we dropped points against pool and sunderland without him in the league.
 
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flyingdutchman said:
Uptopbob said:
kupest said:
If he isn't here next season do we push Fernandinho forward and use Fernando as a DM? or do we go and get another midfielder to play Yaya's role and keep Fernandinho as a DM?

I do think Fernandinho is limited as a DM and would be an amazing midfielder going forward. Either ways Yaya has let this drag on too much for my liking and only sorting it after the world cup leaves us in a limbo and hopefully not the club.

I would hope we sign a creative CM if Yaya does leave, none of our other CM options have a real playmaking ability, a Fabregas / Kroos type of player maybe, although I can't think of any player who would be available of the top of my head.

Fernandinho has no play making abilities ?

I wouldn't say so no. He is very good box to box and doing a bit of everything but compared to Yaya or other creative CMs he's not going to dictate a game as a hub, in my opinion.
 
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Barcon said:
I just went back 30 odd pages to try and find out the latest, only to find everyone calling each other rags and planning on buying a few 8 balls. Can somebody please point me in the right direction of some intellegent conversation as, as you may know, I only partake in the serious side of the site. Thank you.

Lol

Sun has a piece with seluk going off on one again, lady bob quoted it about 3 pages back bud.
 
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