Yaya Toure - commits future to City (page 855)

[TCIB]

Re: Yaya Toure

Thanks for the info Billy.
A bit numb to it myself now.

If he wants a move he should say it the greedy so and so.
We will be lucky to get over 35m for him imo, just to old to demand more from a sale.

I think he should though all things considered leave, but greed has him pissing around so he keeps his loyalty bonus (i would not pay him it as he has shown disloyalty).
I also agree with Billy that he won't come back with the attitude...

"damn no transfer, oh well i get paid a lot and i leave in 2 years and here is not bad so time to get working hard"

I think Ric should make his decision about yaya on the header banner after the world cup ;-)

Cheers Yaya, bye Yaya. I am bored of him now and his agent, sell him and move on.

 

[Zabbasbeard]

Re: Yaya Toure

Eh?

He might be twat of the season, but he's without doubt player of the season.

Some on here would be so petty and small minded that they'd refuse to give him the trophy... like Leeds wanted to do to Alan Smith... SMALL TIME

Putting all this nonsense aside from the last week or so, while Yaya has undoubtedly been one of better performers, and 20+ goals from midfield - and a lot of them classics - is literally awesome (over used word nowadays), there were a few times when he didn't seem interested, so he doesn't get the Player of the Season for me. That accolade goes to David Silva IMO because he always shows up and makes us tick at least as much as Yaya, often playing the penultimate pass in the lead up to a goal or chance as well as the assists and that for me gives it to Merlin. Yaya only runner up for me.

Don't really disagree with that mate...

My beef is that Yaya won the vote by a landslide rightly or wrongly... but he did!

Now some are letting his bellyaching and childish behaviour off the field erase his performances from memory... 'Can I change my vote'... 'If he wins player of the year can we NOT give him the trophy' ... petty and small time.

Yeah, petty and small time, mate, sums up changing minds after all these sheyayagans. I don't want to look back on him negatively myself. Yes he's been extremely well paid and a spolied brat in the last week and a half but there have been so many moments that make us so happy. I look back on that goal v uniturd in the FA Cup Semi, the winner in the Cup final Newcastle away, all those thrilling runs etc etc the list is endless. Yeah, Yaya isn't as easy to warm to as a Zaba, Komps, Goat, Silva Andy Morrison etc (never has been as a personality for me) but he's been immense for us for four years. A true City legend, whether some people like it or not.

 

[chris85mcfc]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

 

[Bill]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

Before this shit no.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

No, not at all. Despite what is being said on here there is no way we will get more £35M + for Yaya in these circumstances, so we would have to spend more than we get for him to replace him, with probably a worse player. Given our ffp transfer cap and our need for a centre back and a defensive midfielder, as well as a back up to Joe, then we would be struggling to make everything happen

 

[pavelsrnicek]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

Very hard to replace him with any one player as he brings goals, long and short range, free kicks, a great passing range, serious physicality and a directness that no one else has on the team plus he is deceptively quick with the ball at his feet and that's before you get to his big game mentality. He is also quite physically intimating which has probably won some midfield battles in the tunnel before matches.

We can replace him with players who bring some of his attributes but no one has quite his range. Without him next season we would need someone who can be direct and maybe someone else who can provide his physicality and someone else his passing.

 

[dazdon]

Re: Yaya Toure

It's time to say goodbye to Yaya now.

Get the right price and move on because quite frankly he's behaving like a dick.

If he plays for us next season I wont be celebrating anything he does.

 

[MCFCinUSA]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

Very hard to replace him with any one player as he brings goals, long and short range, free kicks, a great passing range, serious physicality and a directness that no one else has on the team plus he is deceptively quick with the ball at his feet and that's before you get to his big game mentality. He is also quite physically intimating which has probably won some midfield battles in the tunnel before matches.

We can replace him with players who bring some of his attributes but no one has quite his range. Without him next season we would need someone who can be direct and maybe someone else who can provide his physicality and someone else his passing.

he can dump like a Rhino too...

 

[The Colonel]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

Before this shit no.

And what has happened doesn't change this reality. Still it doesn't have to be a like for like (good job really) we have holding midfielders we can go all out on a through and through attacking midfield dynamo. I'll leave it to the FIFA game players and world football watchers to suggest those.

 

[blueinsa]

Re: Yaya Toure

I know more than the MEN do about what's going on ... City have named a price for Yaya. Lets see if anyone comes to the party.

What region is the price?

North of 40 million pounds. Although it's not been confirmed by anyone, I've been told that City have already rejected 35 million pounds from PSG.

For me he is worth more than £35M but if that is true, I would have taken it as its not just the £35M we get, its his wages as well for the next 3 years.

As a club we are ready to push on to the next level and that is going to take money and moving on players like Yaya at his age is exactly what we should be doing and im of the opinion, its exactly what we will do.

 

[chris85mcfc]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

No, not at all. Despite what is being said on here there is no way we will get more £35M + for Yaya in these circumstances, so we would have to spend more than we get for him to replace him, with probably a worse player. Given our ffp transfer cap and our need for a centre back and a defensive midfielder, as well as a back up to Joe, then we would be struggling to make everything happen

We could really do with keeping him for one more season, and then replacing him next summer.

I don't watch A LOT of European football, but off the top of my head I can't really think of anyone that I would bring in that can get anywhere near to replacing him. He dictates play, scores goals and frightens the life out of the opposition.

My question was more angling at, could we sell him and bring in one or two that can help fill the void which would see us 'as strong' as last season

I don't know who is available but a front 6 of the below would still see us looking fairly strong, especially when you add in a top class centre half

Vidal Fernandinho

Silva Nasri

Aguero Dzeko

 

[markbmcfc]

Re: Yaya Toure

You can't replace Yaya like for like and become a better team. There simply isn't anyone as good as Yaya at what Yaya does.

You can however, buy world class players with different attributes and shape the team slightly differently, and still be more than good enough to win titles.

That would be the case with players like Vidal, Pogba, Fabregas. It's not about having the best individuals in certain roles, but building a system of good players good enough to beat teams around them. Swap Yaya for Cesc, for example, link him with Fernando, Fernandinho, Nasri, Aguero & Silva and it's still one of the best attacking midfields around.

You just adapt, those thinking we will somehow implode or be hugely worse off without him are just, wrong. You don't need to have the best 25 players in the world, you just need to be good enough to beat what is in front of you over the course of a season. There's a huge difference.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Re: Yaya Toure

If he plays for us next season I wont be celebrating anything he does.

That's just plain fucking daft mate.
If he bangs in a hat trick in front of the $tretford End, then he can have a go on Mrs Fetlocks as far as I'm concerned.
Not that he'd want to, but the offer would be there.

 

[dazdon]

Re: Yaya Toure

If he plays for us next season I wont be celebrating anything he does.

That's just plain fucking daft mate.
If he bangs in a hat trick in front of the $tretford End, then he can have a go on Mrs Fetlocks as far as I'm concerned.
Not that he'd want to, but the offer would be there.

Fuckin' sell out :-)

I've got loyalty issues probably that's where i'm coming from.

PS...I hope you've asked Mrs Fetters if she wouldn't mind joining in your cellaresque type celebrations.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

Re: Yaya Toure

If he plays for us next season I wont be celebrating anything he does.

That's just plain fucking daft mate.
If he bangs in a hat trick in front of the $tretford End, then he can have a go on Mrs Fetlocks as far as I'm concerned.
Not that he'd want to, but the offer would be there.

I'll be going mental as usual, but I'll be whispering '****' under my breath.

 

[levets]

Re: Yaya Toure

North of 40 million pounds. Although it's not been confirmed by anyone, I've been told that City have already rejected 35 million pounds from PSG.

I'm not doubting your info but that sort of money for a 31yr old is (virtually?) unheard of. £35M for a 31yr old player who wants to go would be a great bit of business imho.

I think ultimately for City this will be as much about perception as anything else. A headline fee will mean rather than the narrative being Toure forced a move that in fact City got an offer they couldn't refuse and thus sold him.

I also think if we're talking about Monaco and PSG as potential suitors both clubs have shown a willingness to pay way over the odds to secure a player. In an FFP driven climate City will expect stupid money for a player who has just finished the season as arguably the best midfield player in the world, even if he is 31.

In an FFP driven climate City will expect stupid money for a player who has just finished the season as arguably the best midfield player in the world, even if he is 31.
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Totally agree... and when pundits are saying he 'IS' the best in the world on his day (Souness & Redknapp)... Yaya starts to believe his own press and then starts to bellyache about being undervalued, lack of recognition (PFA & Writers)...

 

[Bill]

Re: Yaya Toure

If he plays for us next season I wont be celebrating anything he does.

That's just plain fucking daft mate.
If he bangs in a hat trick in front of the $tretford End, then he can have a go on Mrs Fetlocks as far as I'm concerned.
Not that he'd want to, but the offer would be there.

Rules are rules fetters.

 

[kenzie115]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

Yes. You'd have to change the system a bit as there's no like-for-like replacement but I think we could be a better team without him, we'd certainly be more able to implement a high pressing game.

Ultimately we'll have to learn to live without Yaya whether it's next season or in three years' time. If Txiki and Pellers think we're ready to do it now, they'll sell, if not, he'll stay.

 

[jimbopm]

Re: Yaya Toure

Andriy Shevchenko joined Chelsea for £30.6m in 2006, he was just shy of his 30th birthday.

It depends on PSG as I believe they would be the only team that Yaya would consider who would be willing to pay both the transfer fee and wages.

 

[Zabbasbeard]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

Yes. You'd have to change the system a bit as there's no like-for-like replacement but I think we could be a better team without him, we'd certainly be more able to implement a high pressing game.

Ultimately we'll have to learn without Yaya whether it's next season or in three years' time. If Txiki and Pellers think we're ready to do it now, they'll sell, if not, he'll stay.

This sale is not a fait accompli...