Yaya Toure - commits future to City (page 855)

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kenzie115 said:
chris85mcfc said:
Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?
Yes. You'd have to change the system a bit as there's no like-for-like replacement but I think we could be a better team without him, we'd certainly be more able to implement a high pressing game.

Ultimately we'll have to learn to live without Yaya whether it's next season or in three years' time. If Txiki and Pellers think we're ready to do it now, they'll sell, if not, he'll stay.

He's a great player and has turned up in a lot of big games, but sometimes i question whether he is a liability in terms of the way that we are wanting to try and play.

Before anyone quotes me, im not saying Yaya is a liability, im saying in terms of the way were trying to play ie high pressing and being on the front foot

In a lot of games last season a decent midfield played around him because he doesn't have the pace to close them down quick enough, and before you know it their at our back four

We would have to move one or two things round but this could actually see us start implementing a 4-3-3 if we wanted to as we would have 3 midfielders that can get about the pitch for 90 minutes
 
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chris85mcfc said:
kenzie115 said:
chris85mcfc said:
Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?
Yes. You'd have to change the system a bit as there's no like-for-like replacement but I think we could be a better team without him, we'd certainly be more able to implement a high pressing game.

Ultimately we'll have to learn to live without Yaya whether it's next season or in three years' time. If Txiki and Pellers think we're ready to do it now, they'll sell, if not, he'll stay.

He's a great player and has turned up in a lot of big games, but sometimes i question whether he is a liability in terms of the way that we are wanting to try and play.

Before anyone quotes me, im not saying Yaya is a liability, im saying in terms of the way were trying to play ie high pressing and being on the front foot

In a lot of games last season a decent midfield played around him because he doesn't have the pace to close them down quick enough, and before you know it their at our back four

We would have to move one or two things round but this could actually see us start implementing a 4-3-3 if we wanted to as we would have 3 midfielders that can get about the pitch for 90 minutes
Nasri, Fernandinho and Fernando in the middle, with Silva and Jovetic just off Aguero up front sounds pretty tasty, and that's without actually buying another midfielder as we're expecting to get Fernando anyway. Add Fabregas for example, and we've got plenty of options in midfield, and up front Aguero could play a withdrawn role alongside Silva or Jovetic, with one of the big blokes up top.
 
Re: Yaya Toure

chris85mcfc said:
Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?
Imo, and an unpopular one it is, but YES I DO.

Yaya is the best CM in the world last season imo. He has it all in his armoury as an attacking CM. Power, pass, shooting, accuracy and a surging run. The problem though is his lack of pressing and that will only regress further as he ages due to less stamina and pace.

Yaya, is as Hamann stated, a liability defensively. He leaves gaps, he lets Fernandinho and before Barry to do his work. In a two man midfield, ideally you'd have two work horses of world class ability. Fernandinho is immense and I'd puteverything into getting Vidal, or Fabregas. One is a Yaya replacement and the other is a more complete CM who used to drag his Arsenal team to victory at a young age. Either will benefit City in the long term. Both are younger, both offer more to the team as a whole and both are world class. This worry that all is lost without Yaya is hyperbole. Yaya as good as he is, is replaceable and the best thing for City as a club is to sell.
 
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Haha Benatia has been "disrespested" by Roma now too and it would be a dream move to us.

Do we like Benatia or is it a one way street? Just wondering ;-)

Also if City have received an offer from PSG we must be thinking how can they be ignoring FFP and we aren't!

Something fishy about all of this.
 
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Cobwebcat said:
Haha Benatia has been "disrespested" by Roma now too and it would be a dream move to us.

Do we like Benatia or is it a one way street? Just wondering ;-)

Also if City have received an offer from PSG we must be thinking how can they be ignoring FFP and we aren't!

Something fishy about all of this.

If we receive a bid from PSG, bearing in mind what they said over Matuidi, we should double the price!
 
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Cobwebcat said:
Haha Benatia has been "disrespested" by Roma now too and it would be a dream move to us.

Do we like Benatia or is it a one way street? Just wondering ;-)

Also if City have received an offer from PSG we must be thinking how can they be ignoring FFP and we aren't!

Something fishy about all of this.

Not at all ... rumour has it that UEFA have told City/PSG the transfer limit is based on book cost of players rather than overall transfer value ... ergo ... any fee is booked over the length of the contract. In essence we could spend 200 million on four players giving them all five year contracts and not fall foul of the FFP rules.

UEFA themselves won't confirm this because much like the 21 man squad restriction, the details of the settlements fall in favour of the clubs who are being punished thus making them look weak.
 
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BillyShears said:
Cobwebcat said:
Haha Benatia has been "disrespested" by Roma now too and it would be a dream move to us.

Do we like Benatia or is it a one way street? Just wondering ;-)

Also if City have received an offer from PSG we must be thinking how can they be ignoring FFP and we aren't!

Something fishy about all of this.

Not at all ... rumour has it that UEFA have told City/PSG the transfer limit is based on book cost of players rather than overall transfer value ... ergo ... any fee is booked over the length of the contract. In essence we could spend 200 million on four players giving them all five year contracts and not fall foul of the FFP rules.

UEFA themselves won't confirm this because much like the 21 man squad restriction, the details of the settlements fall in favour of the clubs who are being punished thus making them look weak.

When is the deadline for appeals by affected clubs? I wonder if we will keep our dealings under wraps until that passes lest it annoy our rivals enough to appeal out sanctions.
 
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Hope he stays, but if we get 40 to 50 million for a 31 year old then it would be a very good deal for the club.

He can go and play in a less demanding league for more money, so from that point of view you cant blame him.

No player is bigger than any club, we were here before him and will be here after him.
 
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Happy Feet said:
Hope he stays, but if we get 40 to 50 million for a 31 year old then it would be a very good deal for the club.

He can go and play in a less demanding league for more money, so from that point of view you cant blame him.

No player is bigger than any club, we were here before him and will be here after him.

For all the bollocks coming from Yaya or his agent about being an honour to play for PSG, the simple truth of the matter is that if he was after a move to them it is purely for money. It's a less demanding league... only real challenge is from Monaco at the moment – about as one sided as the SPL! Add to that the TV coverage of the French league is far less worldwide than the Premier League - the only competition that is challenging is the Champions League, and honestly we have as much chance as them of winning it – so there is no other reason (professionally) for him to go there! And as for ending his career at Barca... well when that time comes, Barca won't want you mucker!

Yaya will always be a legend to me, he's scored some of our most important goals in recent years – against the Rags in the FA Cup Semi, in the Final, against Newcastle away when we first won the PL etc. etc., yet he goes on about respect and whilst giving the club and fans none seemingly... don't forget Yaya, you were a quality player when we signed you, but playing for us as made you into one of the World's best midfielders, so show a little respect to what City have done for your career too!
 
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BillyShears said:
Cobwebcat said:
Haha Benatia has been "disrespested" by Roma now too and it would be a dream move to us.

Do we like Benatia or is it a one way street? Just wondering ;-)

Also if City have received an offer from PSG we must be thinking how can they be ignoring FFP and we aren't!

Something fishy about all of this.

Not at all ... rumour has it that UEFA have told City/PSG the transfer limit is based on book cost of players rather than overall transfer value ... ergo ... any fee is booked over the length of the contract. In essence we could spend 200 million on four players giving them all five year contracts and not fall foul of the FFP rules.

UEFA themselves won't confirm this because much like the 21 man squad restriction, the details of the settlements fall in favour of the clubs who are being punished thus making them look weak.


Has the ten day period not passed now?

and do we want Benatia (as he seems to be copying Yaya) so if we are upset at Yaya, and accept Benatia are we hypocrites or just biased? :-)
 
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I'd send him away in a second if PSG offered $15 million + Matuidi. I think he just signed a new contract though.
 
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Cobwebcat said:
BillyShears said:
Cobwebcat said:
Haha Benatia has been "disrespested" by Roma now too and it would be a dream move to us.

Do we like Benatia or is it a one way street? Just wondering ;-)

Also if City have received an offer from PSG we must be thinking how can they be ignoring FFP and we aren't!

Something fishy about all of this.

Not at all ... rumour has it that UEFA have told City/PSG the transfer limit is based on book cost of players rather than overall transfer value ... ergo ... any fee is booked over the length of the contract. In essence we could spend 200 million on four players giving them all five year contracts and not fall foul of the FFP rules.

UEFA themselves won't confirm this because much like the 21 man squad restriction, the details of the settlements fall in favour of the clubs who are being punished thus making them look weak.


Has the ten day period not passed now?

and do we want Benatia (as he seems to be copying Yaya) so if we are upset at Yaya, and accept Benatia are we hypocrites or just biased? :-)

I suspect it's not about the 10 day period but about the overall perception of FFP. I daresay that the full details of how the sanctions are administered will never be made public.

Dunno how you equate the Benatia and Toure situation ... they're totally different unless you're the supporter of another club trying to make City look bad.
 
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From what I've seen online Roma fans are reacting roughly the same way people are here.
 
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