Yaya Toure - commits future to City (page 855)

[FantasyIreland]

Re: Yaya Toure

and do we want Benatia (as he seems to be copying Yaya) so if we are upset at Yaya, and accept Benatia are we hypocrites or just biased? :-)

Benatia, who joined Roma from Udinese last summer, has impressed in Serie A this season.

The 27-year-old claims the club promised to reward him with a new contract. But he revealed the terms on the table are 'unacceptable'.

Benatia: "I never said I want to leave. But Roma have not kept their promises. They had told me that they would make me a new contract offer if I had a great season.

"But I have received an unacceptable proposal, less than €3m per season. I replied that I would not sign it.

"I'm in love with Rome, I'm very fine here but my mistake was to be too correct with the club and too honest."

Benatia has already gone on record say it would be 'a dream' to sign for City.

But he admitted he could yet finish his career at Roma.

He added: "I only said that anyone dreams of teams like Real, Bayern and City.

"My agent is doing his job, I could leave but I could also stay and finish my career in Roma. But I was disappointed (with Roma), I deserved more respect."
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I don't see any similarities,Benatia has a valid argument and has been upfront and respectful throughout

 

[chris85mcfc]

Re: Yaya Toure

Not at all ... rumour has it that UEFA have told City/PSG the transfer limit is based on book cost of players rather than overall transfer value ... ergo ... any fee is booked over the length of the contract. In essence we could spend 200 million on four players giving them all five year contracts and not fall foul of the FFP rules.

UEFA themselves won't confirm this because much like the 21 man squad restriction, the details of the settlements fall in favour of the clubs who are being punished thus making them look weak.

Has the ten day period not passed now?

and do we want Benatia (as he seems to be copying Yaya) so if we are upset at Yaya, and accept Benatia are we hypocrites or just biased? :-)

I suspect it's not about the 10 day period but about the overall perception of FFP. I daresay that the full details of how the sanctions are administered will never be made public.

Dunno how you equate the Benatia and Toure situation ... they're totally different unless you're the supporter of another club trying to make City look bad.

I don't think you can compare Benatia and Toure in terms of their situation

One of them is at a top club that have just done a domestic double, and being paid a reported £200k a week

The other is at a club in Italy who are always going to play second fiddle to Juventus and the Milan clubs in terms of trophies and stacture, and the lad has got wind of a few top sides being in for him

To conclude, both just want a new start, ive just got a feeling one of them is money related and the other is probably more trophy related.

 

[Zabbasbeard]

Re: Yaya Toure

Anyone think we could be a better side without Yaya in it, but replacing him with the right player(s)?

Yes. You'd have to change the system a bit as there's no like-for-like replacement but I think we could be a better team without him, we'd certainly be more able to implement a high pressing game.

Ultimately we'll have to learn to live without Yaya whether it's next season or in three years' time. If Txiki and Pellers think we're ready to do it now, they'll sell, if not, he'll stay.

He's a great player and has turned up in a lot of big games, but sometimes i question whether he is a liability in terms of the way that we are wanting to try and play.

Before anyone quotes me, im not saying Yaya is a liability, im saying in terms of the way were trying to play ie high pressing and being on the front foot

In a lot of games last season a decent midfield played around him because he doesn't have the pace to close them down quick enough, and before you know it their at our back four

We would have to move one or two things round but this could actually see us start implementing a 4-3-3 if we wanted to as we would have 3 midfielders that can get about the pitch for 90 minutes

I agree, though part of Yaya's unsuitability (and I am not deliberately wanting to slag him off) is his lack of workrate at times, as well as his lack of pace.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Yaya Toure

Has the ten day period not passed now?

and do we want Benatia (as he seems to be copying Yaya) so if we are upset at Yaya, and accept Benatia are we hypocrites or just biased? :-)

I suspect it's not about the 10 day period but about the overall perception of FFP. I daresay that the full details of how the sanctions are administered will never be made public.

Dunno how you equate the Benatia and Toure situation ... they're totally different unless you're the supporter of another club trying to make City look bad.

I don't think you can compare Benatia and Toure in terms of their situation

One of them is at a top club that have just done a domestic double, and being paid a reported £200k a week

The other is at a club in Italy who are always going to play second fiddle to Juventus and the Milan clubs in terms of trophies and stacture, and the lad has got wind of a few top sides being in for him

To conclude, both just want a new start, ive just got a feeling one of them is money related and the other is probably more trophy related.

It's the kind of thing my brother (who's a rag) would say. "Haha look you're complaining about Toure but trying to sign Benatia who's doing the same thing". As I say to me it's bollocks. Fundamentally there are zero sporting reasons for Toure to leave City. I could name a dozen sporting reasons for Benatia to leave Roma ...

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Re: Yaya Toure

In the grand scheme of things, PSG giving us big money for Yaya may be the best outcome for all.

We would get good money to add to our transfer kitty for an ageing (ableit fantastic) footballer. If PSG continue to stick two fingers up at FFP by spending big sums, then we can sit back and watch them fight it out, while we go about our business quietly and efficiently.

Yes we would have to reinvest the money on another midfielder. But I could handle a season getting use to life without Yaya while bedding in someone like Pogba.

If we can squeeze 35-40 million out of PSG then I would snap their hands off. I would have accepted that money even if Yaya had not caused a stink.

We need to be thinking about the long game now rather than just next season.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Re: Yaya Toure

Haha Benatia has been "disrespested" by Roma now too and it would be a dream move to us.

Do we like Benatia or is it a one way street? Just wondering ;-)

Also if City have received an offer from PSG we must be thinking how can they be ignoring FFP and we aren't!

Something fishy about all of this.

Not at all ... rumour has it that UEFA have told City/PSG the transfer limit is based on book cost of players rather than overall transfer value ... ergo ... any fee is booked over the length of the contract. In essence we could spend 200 million on four players giving them all five year contracts and not fall foul of the FFP rules.

UEFA themselves won't confirm this because much like the 21 man squad restriction, the details of the settlements fall in favour of the clubs who are being punished thus making them look weak.

That can't be right mate, I just can't see how that would be in effect seen as any sort of punishment whatsoever. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any club has ever spent over £200mil net in a window - if we signed players to 5 or 6 year deals we'd have a fund of between £250/300mil.

I sincerely hope you're right though! :-)

 

[murcian blue]

Re: Yaya Toure

What region is the price?

North of 40 million pounds. Although it's not been confirmed by anyone, I've been told that City have already rejected 35 million pounds from PSG.

For me he is worth more than £35M but if that is true, I would have taken it as its not just the £35M we get, its his wages as well for the next 3 years.

As a club we are ready to push on to the next level and that is going to take money and moving on players like Yaya at his age is exactly what we should be doing and im of the opinion, its exactly what we will do.

would we not have to pay his contract up if we sold him without him asking for a transfer

 

[Well Wisher]

Re: Yaya Toure

Supposing you could get Rodwell fit, would any of you see him & Fernandinho as a good enough duo? As in, no replacement for Yaya if he left.

I managed to cram two hypotheticals in there but I'm just curious to see where you all sit regarding Rodwell, and City's overall strength which I believe is such that you wouldn't need to dash out and buy a Pogba or Fabregas.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Yaya Toure

That can't be right mate, I just can't see how that would be in effect seen as any sort of punishment whatsoever. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any club has ever spent over £200mil net in a window - if we signed players to 5 or 6 year deals we'd have a fund of between £250/300mil.

I sincerely hope you're right though! :-)

I agree it sounds absurd ... but then it's equally absurd to reduce the CL squad and then reduce the number of h/g players you have name.

So far the silence from UEFA is deafening. They've simply told me that they won't be going into the specifics of the settlements with anyone. So we'll never know what was agreed behind closed doors ... but judging by the fact that Paris have already blown their transfer cap, it suggests to me that it's entirely feasible that UEFA are talking book values on transfers.

I hope I'm right too because it makes this summer much simpler in terms of strengthening in the right places. Competition for players will be fiercer this summer than it has been in quite a while IMO.

 

[wolfie1988]

Re: Yaya Toure

Supposing you could get Rodwell fit, would any of you see him & Fernandinho as a good enough duo? As in, no replacement for Yaya if he left.

I managed to cram two hypotheticals in there but I'm just curious to see where you all sit regarding Rodwell, and City's overall strength which I believe is such that you wouldn't need to dash out and buy a Pogba or Fabregas.

Rodwell is like a rabbit in the headlights when he gets on the ball now. He has missed too much football and his development has been stunted