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We saw (again) last night why our midfield without Toure isn't fit for purpose, and why Guardiola will probably buy three or four centre midfield players in the summer.

The tragic thing is just how much we missed a player who has been everyone's favourite scapegoat for most of the season. It's very telling and it show that for all his faults, the reason that he keeps getting picked and the reason that Pellegrini keeps picking him, is that his technical quality is simply in a different league to most of the rest of our midfield and without him our forward players look like isolated magnets on a tactical whiteboard.
 
BillyShears said:
The tragic thing is just how much we missed a player who has been everyone's favourite scapegoat for most of the season. It's very telling and it show that for all his faults, the reason that he keeps getting picked and the reason that Pellegrini keeps picking him, is that his technical quality is simply in a different league to most of the rest of our midfield and without him our forward players look like isolated magnets on a tactical whiteboard.
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Aint that the truth.

Still his cake wasn't big enough 2 summers ago, and his agent is a knob, hang him.
 
cleavers said:
Aint that the truth.

Still his cake wasn't big enough 2 summers ago, and his agent is a knob, hang him.
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Don't get me wrong mate, I think Toure is as big a bellend as his agent. However our reliance on him to do good things on the pitch almost since he walked into the side cannot ever be overstated. Without Yaya we have often been a nothing side with seemingly no midfield quality or identity. This isn't about just this season, but the seasons before too.

For whatever reason we have simply not addressed this in any meaningful way since he was signed. I keep saying it but I will be staggered if we don't sign at least three centre mids this summer. We need them, especially if Toure's going, and frankly if Pep watched that last night he will probably be wondering if he should keep Toure another season just to be safe!
 
If we can keep the same group of 16/17 players fit until the end of the season then we absolutely stand a chance of fighting for the league again. Yaya has to be one of those players.
 
BillyShears said:
I keep saying it but I will be staggered if we don't sign at least three centre mids this summer. We need them, especially if Toure's going, and frankly if Pep watched that last night he will probably be wondering if he should keep Toure another season just to be safe!
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It'll be an interesting summer for sure, and I do think Pep will keep Yaya around if he can. I'm not particular bothered by his gobshite agent, and he himself doesn't help himself, but the player is very difficult to replace.

He was the sole cause of our shiteness 2 weeks ago according to this place, yet its clear from the 2 games he's missed recently, just how difficult his presence is going to be to replace. Delph certainly isn't the answer.....
 
BillyShears said:
Don't get me wrong mate, I think Toure is as big a bellend as his agent. However our reliance on him to do good things on the pitch almost since he walked into the side cannot ever be overstated. Without Yaya we have often been a nothing side with seemingly no midfield quality or identity. This isn't about just this season, but the seasons before too.

For whatever reason we have simply not addressed this in any meaningful way since he was signed. I keep saying it but I will be staggered if we don't sign at least three centre mids this summer. We need them, especially if Toure's going, and frankly if Pep watched that last night he will probably be wondering if he should keep Toure another season just to be safe!
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If I were Pep, I'd rather ditch all the other central midfielders than Toure and bring in a new set; so long as Yaya is prepared to accept he may spend a lot more time on the bench. However, surround him with pace and quality and I reckon he could spend a season in the Xavi role.
 
cleavers said:
It'll be an interesting summer for sure, and I do think Pep will keep Yaya around if he can. I'm not particular bothered by his gobshite agent, and he himself doesn't help himself, but the player is very difficult to replace.

He was the sole cause of our shiteness 2 weeks ago according to this place, yet its clear from the 2 games he's missed recently, just how difficult his presence is going to be to replace. Delph certainly isn't the answer.....
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None of them has shown themselves to be the answer; the best bet of the current crop might be Nasri.
 
OB1 said:
If I were Pep, I'd rather ditch all the other central midfielders than Toure and bring in a new set; so long as Yaya is prepared to accept he may spend a lot more time on the bench. However, surround him with pace and quality and I reckon he could spend a season in the Xavi role.
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Has there ever been a player who can excite and frustrate as much as Yaya? But despite his critics( I confess to sometime belonging to this group) he has been central to our cause in recent years. Talk about only missing someone when they are not there. Our trophy cabinet would be a lot more bear without him. While his off field antics have left a lot to be desired only an idiot (sadly there have been many on here) can doubt his contribution on the pitch. Unless a big offer comes in from China expect to see him still wearing the blue shirt next season.
 
Truth is all the players looked knackered last night and Yaya would've probably been no help. It was unfortunate that we got to play Liverpool last night as we were perfect fodder for Klopps energetic and new look side. Given the age of our players and lack of quality on our bench (strongest squad my arse) it was on the cards I suppose although it still disappointing to witness such a weak performance.
 
BillyShears said:
We saw (again) last night why our midfield without Toure isn't fit for purpose, and why Guardiola will probably buy three or four centre midfield players in the summer.

The tragic thing is just how much we missed a player who has been everyone's favourite scapegoat for most of the season. It's very telling and it show that for all his faults, the reason that he keeps getting picked and the reason that Pellegrini keeps picking him, is that his technical quality is simply in a different league to most of the rest of our midfield and without him our forward players look like isolated magnets on a tactical whiteboard.
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I don't think Pepe will be given enough money to make such overhaul.
Decent players who could be a real upgrade over the two Ferns are nowdays valued at least arround £40m;
you are implying we would spend £120m on midfielders alone without even knowing how much we could cash in with the sails of the two brazillians and Yaya.
We will still need to sign a decent left & right back, a replacement for Demichelis, and upgrade up-front over Bony/Ihenacho.
More realistically, Pep will keep Fernandinho and will sign a high profile versatile midfielder ( maybe Pogba or Vidal ).
 
ZZmaestro said:
I don't think Pepe will be given enough money to make such overhaul.
Decent players who could be a real upgrade over the two Ferns are nowdays valued at least arround £40m;
you are implying we would spend £120m on midfielders alone without even knowing how much we could cash in with the sails of the two brazillians and Yaya.
We will still need to sign a decent left & right back, a replacement for Demichelis, and upgrade up-front over Bony/Ihenacho.
More realistically, Pep will keep Fernandinho and will sign a high profile versatile midfielder ( maybe Pogba or Vidal ).
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I doubt he would be coming if there was no assurances about a huge transfer kitty being available
 
BillyShears said:
We saw (again) last night why our midfield without Toure isn't fit for purpose, and why Guardiola will probably buy three or four centre midfield players in the summer.

The tragic thing is just how much we missed a player who has been everyone's favourite scapegoat for most of the season. It's very telling and it show that for all his faults, the reason that he keeps getting picked and the reason that Pellegrini keeps picking him, is that his technical quality is simply in a different league to most of the rest of our midfield and without him our forward players look like isolated magnets on a tactical whiteboard.
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Yup, a perfect summation Billy. And not just technical quality, but sheer power as well. We have somehow acquired a selection of small, non-tackling lightweights in midfield, who are easily bullied off the ball. The dippers couldn't do that to Ya Ya on Sunday, and nor could they prevent Fernandinho then tucking in to his right to snuff the threat of Coutinho out. Without him last night it was a fucking car crash with vast gaps between Silva, Kun and our two 8 stone touchline huggers.
 
scary seeing into a future without yaya , i keep saying it but its worth repeating,our midfield without him is as poor as anything in the legue
 
ped said:
scary seeing into a future without yaya , i keep saying it but its worth repeating,our midfield without him is as poor as anything in the legue
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Unfortunately our midfield is just as bad if not even more vulnerable with him.
 
ped said:
scary seeing into a future without yaya , i keep saying it but its worth repeating,our midfield without him is as poor as anything in the legue
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Just to clarify, are you saying that without yaya toure our midfield is the worst in the premier league? or have I totally misunderstood
 
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