Yes I am going to enjoy this thread.....Sven's signings

jay_mcfc said:
Corky said:
Sven wanted Castillo not Elano.

Shaktar signed Castillo instead of us and we got Elano instead.

Sven dropped Elano for Castillo to make his debut.

Then Forevercity started a thread about how much better Castillo was than Elano.

Something went badly worng with Castillo if he only gets half a game v Stockport.

What's your point?

If we had the £12M to spend in July 2007 we would have got Castillo then and not Elano.

Sven signed Elano by default, it was lucky he turned out better than Castillo as neither City or Shaktar thought he was at the time.
 
Corky said:
If we had the £12M to spend in July 2007 we would have got Castillo then and not Elano.

Sven signed Elano by default, it was lucky he turned out better than Castillo as neither City or Shaktar thought he was at the time.

This kind of thing probably goes on all the time, missing out on your number 1 targets is hardly a new thing. Castillo will be a quality player in a different league. Like someone else has said with regards to Sven's signings, most of them would probably do a lot better in other leagues. Some foreign clubs would do well to look at some of our players like Garrido, Castillo, Elano etc etc
 
You see it's all a matter of opinion because I believe that few of Sven's signings are suited to the fraught nature of the English game.

Elano - Vastly over rated. League far too physical for him.
Corluka - Classy defender but too soft centred, too slow and too error prone. We have now got ourselves a better right back in my opinion
Garrido - Getting better but still poor defensively
Fernandes - Uninspiring and not good enough for where we want to be
Petrov - Been a quality buy and has been sorely missed
Bojinov - Who knows?
Bianchi - Didn't look at all suited to the English game
Geovanni - Vastly over rated but scores some good goals
Benjani - Simply not good enough
Castillo - Dear oh dear
Caicedo - Let us not forget until just over a week ago everyone was saying how bad he was.

In my honest opinion, only one of those eleven players is definitely good enough for a top half side, in the physical English Premier League. Two of them, the jury is out on.

I still believe that (although I am far from being a Hughes fan) Leslie was dealt a pretty shit hand and was gift wrapped by far and away the softest team in the league, one that was absolutely certain to be in the relegation mix without major surgery.
 
JOGAMIGMOG said:
Maybe but Hughes' signings are better.

Can someone explain that statement, because the way I see it:

Robinho = Signed by the Arabs.
SWP = Came home so doesn't really count. Bought to appease the City fans by the Arabs IMO.
Kompany = Decent player.
Ben Haim = The jury is well and truly still out for me.
Zabaleta = The jury is well and truly still out for me.

The Sven signings, given the amount of money and time he was given, we all pretty decent with the exception of Benjani who I never rated, IMO.
 
Corluka was his best signing after Petrov, it seems like I am in the minority thinking he is a much better player than Zab.
 
DD said:
In my honest opinion, only one of those eleven players is definitely good enough for a top half side, in the physical English Premier League. Two of them, the jury is out on.

Hold on, we were a top half team last year, so why are they now not a top half team exactly?

I still believe that (although I am far from being a Hughes fan) Leslie was dealt a pretty shit hand and was gift wrapped by far and away the softest team in the league, one that was absolutely certain to be in the relegation mix without major surgery.

Again, how so? We finished top 10 last year, so what has changed? Why all of a sudden are your expectations of the core that was installed by Sven, now dropped to "relegation mix"
 
Don't know why one always has to be played off against the other, but the op is absolutely correct. "Svens dross" were a much better bunch than they are given credit for.

One thing I will say about them is that because of the signings Sven made, we were able to play a totally different style of football, one that was much more pleasing on the eye and one that restored a lot of peoples faith in the club. If it wasn't for Svens signings I wonder if the Arabs would have been interested in buying the club, because we wouldn't have looked nearly as attractive to them with falling crowds and supporter disenchantment with the club.

And some of the football we played last season just had me shaking my head in amazement that I was watching the club I support play the way I never dreamed we would.
 
If we had the £12M to spend in July 2007 we would have got Castillo then and not Elano.

Sven signed Elano by default, it was lucky he turned out better than Castillo as neither City or Shaktar thought he was at the time

corky

mean spirited petty minded drivel
 
moomba said:
Don't know why one always has to be played off against the other, but the op is absolutely correct. "Svens dross" were a much better bunch than they are given credit for.

One thing I will say about them is that because of the signings Sven made, we were able to play a totally different style of football, one that was much more pleasing on the eye and one that restored a lot of peoples faith in the club. If it wasn't for Svens signings I wonder if the Arabs would have been interested in buying the club, because we wouldn't have looked nearly as attractive to them with falling crowds and supporter disenchantment with the club.

And some of the football we played last season just had me shaking my head in amazement that I was watching the club I support play the way I never dreamed we would.

Couldn't agree more. People have selective memory on here at times. Do people not remember the way we used to play under Pearce. It was shocking. At least now, *sometimes*, we can play the ball to feet rather than the wallop and hope crap we used to play. I would go one further and say that Sven had us playing far more attractive football than now or then.
 

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