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simon23 said:
some good performances - Rico, Rodri, Alvarez,Bernardo, Ake, Akanji, Dias.

Some not so good - Kovacic especially and Nunes - first time they have played together however but both are not upto speed at present and both need to start adding goals and creativity as they are the replacements for Gundo and we are missing his contribution in these areas. Grealish still getting up to speed due to limited appearances but again he needs to do that quickly.

Overall a comfortable win against an average side in very poor conditions (pitch and weather) - no injures which is an added bonus and a couple of key players rested.
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That Grealish comment makes me doubt everything else that is said, even though i think some of it.
 
daveiw01 said:
Personally I'm sick of the constant negatives when we're not 3-0 up after 15 minutes as some seem to expect almost every game, I've seen City struggle, really struggle for enough points to try and stay up. These days I'd hope for top four, given we have Pep, but it won't last, it never does.
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People are thick.
 
daveiw01 said:
Personally I'm sick of the constant negatives when we're not 3-0 up after 15 minutes
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I don't go on the match thread ever, so no idea.
daveiw01 said:
I've seen City struggle, really struggle for enough points to try and stay up.
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Yeah same, probably for longer than you, but that's (for now at least) history.

My post is why people can't criticise NOW, by our standards we weren't great tonight, we created a lot of chances, but the finishing was mostly poor.

We got a scrappy rebound goal, a penalty, and one decent finish.

There were players tonight who weren't good, why shouldn't people be able to say that ?

It's one individual game, against what was/is a pretty poor side (where do you think they'd be in the English league ?).
 
cleavers said:
I don't go on the match thread ever, so no idea.

Yeah same, probably for longer than you, but that's (for now at least) history.

My post is why people can't criticise NOW, by our standards we weren't great tonight, we created a lot of chances, but the finishing was mostly poor.

We got a scrappy rebound goal, a penalty, and one decent finish.

There were players tonight who weren't good, why shouldn't people be able to say that ?

It's one individual game, against what was/is a pretty poor side (where do you think they'd be in the English league ?).
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Above the scum :)
 
cleavers said:
I don't go on the match thread ever, so no idea.

Yeah same, probably for longer than you, but that's (for now at least) history.

My post is why people can't criticise NOW, by our standards we weren't great tonight, we created a lot of chances, but the finishing was mostly poor.

We got a scrappy rebound goal, a penalty, and one decent finish.

There were players tonight who weren't good, why shouldn't people be able to say that ?

It's one individual game, against what was/is a pretty poor side (where do you think they'd be in the English league ?).
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No one minds constructive criticism; it's actually to be welcomed. But when you get comments like "he's shit", or "sell him", or "he was a mistake"; well, they're not constructive comments.
 
daveiw01 said:
Personally I'm sick of the constant negatives when we're not 3-0 up after 15 minutes as some seem to expect almost every game, I've seen City struggle, really struggle for enough points to try and stay up. These days I'd hope for top four, given we have Pep, but it won't last, it never does.
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Not too long ago I used to get my calculator out and work through the fixture list for a route to 40 points.

Now I gasp at a single misplaced pass.

Nowadays I barely notice when we pass 40 points and I've forgotten where the calculator is, but I'll not forget this wonderful football, coz as you say, it ain't going to last, nothing ever does.

So we should enjoy it.
 
LongsightM13 said:
Don’t worry, the Ederson hater loonies are back, despite Steffan’s comparative horror show on Saturday
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Clowns. I actually cleared my ignore list last year that was entirely made up of covidiots so that I could put all the Ederson weirdos on it, as I would rather hear the opinions of a covid denier than some pillock that knows nothing about football.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
People need a scapegoat or something to vent about. We’re British. We like a good moan.
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People aren't really moaning, just saying it wasn't a great performance, it's commenting on the game.

Why should that not be allowed ?

Tonight we struggled to beat a team we should be beating every time, and yes we did beat them, but it was a bit of a tough watch, the attacking stats tell you that, 26 goal attempts, 14 on target, 3 goals, 1 a scrappy rebound, 1 a penalty, and 1 finally a decent finish.

30/40 pass moves when actually creating next to nothing is not good football, it might look "nice" but it's not great when it ends up back at the defenders.
 
jimharri said:
No one minds constructive criticism; it's actually to be welcomed. But when you get comments like "he's shit", or "sell him", or "he was a mistake"; well, they're not constructive comments.
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I agree, and having not read the whole of this thread, and as usual I don't ever go in the match thread, so no idea, but there were players tonight who didn't have great games, it annoys me when people say we shouldn't be saying so.
 
cleavers said:
People aren't really moaning, just saying it wasn't a great performance, it's commenting on the game.

Why should that not be allowed ?

Tonight we struggled to beat a team we should be beating every time, and yes we did beat them, but it was a bit of a tough watch, the attacking stats tell you that, 26 goal attempts, 14 on target, 3 goals, 1 a scrappy rebound, 1 a penalty, and 1 finally a decent finish.

30/40 pass moves when actually creating next to nothing is not good football, it might look "nice" but it's not great when it ends up back at the defenders.
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Anyone can say anything they want as long as it’s within the rules.

You determine what is allowed and isn’t.

The match thread is always full of over reactions. It’s the rollercoaster that fans go through in every match.

Those people generally assimilate around a common target to blame.

If we’re poking holes in Pep football, I fear for this site when he finally calls it a day.
 
cleavers said:
Why ?

Why can't people say it wasn't a great performance ?

I know we have very high expectations these days, but our finishing tonight was poor, 26 shots on goal, 14 on target, and we scored 3, that's not a great tally is it ?

There were some good performances, Lewis, Grealish, and Rodri, Alvarez and Bernardo when they came on, defence were mostly OK. However we allowed a pretty shite team to give us a game, and after their equaliser, we were hanging on a bit for a while.

We shouldn't be using the pitch as an excuse, there was nothing really that I noticed that was more difficult, and it's not like we don't play in the rain much either.

At the end of the day, the result is all that matters, and we won (easily in the end), but good performance (by our standards) it wasn't.

Any away win in the CL is a good "result", but I don't see the point painting the performance for something it wasn't. In the second half, we only gained control of the game by bringing on Alvarez and Bernardo imho.
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No, it wasn't a great performance, but every season it takes us months to hit our precision groove. And we were playing a team that plays on that pitch every second week - huge advantage. We should expect dips in performance - all the great teams in history had out-of-form runs. While not in form we've won three out of three in the CL and nicely poised in the Prem.
 
cleavers said:
People aren't really moaning, just saying it wasn't a great performance, it's commenting on the game.

Why should that not be allowed ?

Tonight we struggled to beat a team we should be beating every time, and yes we did beat them, but it was a bit of a tough watch, the attacking stats tell you that, 26 goal attempts, 14 on target, 3 goals, 1 a scrappy rebound, 1 a penalty, and 1 finally a decent finish.

30/40 pass moves when actually creating next to nothing is not good football, it might look "nice" but it's not great when it ends up back at the defenders.
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No-one's saying it was a great performance. But saying stuff about 30-40 pass moves is just your opinion. Pep and many of us have a different opinion about aspects of the match. We are allowed to be off form but still dominant enough to win on an unfamiliar pitch that the opposition play on every other week. Generally, we are slow season starters but strong finishers. Glass half full.
 
HarrytheBlue said:
We should expect dips in performance - all the great teams in history had out-of-form runs. While not in form we've won three out of three in the CL and nicely poised in the Prem.
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Absolutely, but that shouldn't stifle after match criticism, you said you were "sick of it", yet you just posted.....
HarrytheBlue said:
No, it wasn't a great performance
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That's all most are saying in here.

Like I said, I don't go in the match thread ever, and I don't look at it after either, that's just knee jerk shite. I comment similarly with family and friends on WhatsApp, but I wouldn't do it here, as it's totally irelevant to real life.

I do comment after the game, on how I felt the game went, tonight I didn't think we were great, we struggled at times in fact, and against a pretty poor side, and yet should probably have won 5 or 6-1 anyway.

I don't see an issue with that from anyone.
 
cleavers said:
People aren't really moaning, just saying it wasn't a great performance, it's commenting on the game.

Why should that not be allowed ?

Tonight we struggled to beat a team we should be beating every time, and yes we did beat them, but it was a bit of a tough watch, the attacking stats tell you that, 26 goal attempts, 14 on target, 3 goals, 1 a scrappy rebound, 1 a penalty, and 1 finally a decent finish.

30/40 pass moves when actually creating next to nothing is not good football, it might look "nice" but it's not great when it ends up back at the defenders.
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It was a plastic pitch so I'm sure they were told to be careful. We were able to rest some of our A team, we created a lot of chances, Jack was back to his best and Haaland scored twice! What's not to like ? I really wonder what the team needs to do to make fans happy these days after all we can't play champagne football every game. I know you weren't impressed but I thought it was a brilliant nights work from the team.
 
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