Sergio Aguero - 2016/17 performances

[quiet_riot]

Surely his fee will pay for any replacement? And i believe its exactly an area we need to,Jesus has shown in a few games just how much more effective a spirited,industrious and more team oriented striker is to this team.

His fee should pay for his replacement, but with City potentially broadcasting that he's not needed/wanted, we'll get much less than he's worth!

 

[kenzie115]

Surprised by some of the comments about his workrate, I thought he was making much more of an effort last night. The problem is, he doesn't have (no longer has) the acceleration, pace or stamina of Jesus, Sane or Sterling. This makes him much less effective at pressing the opposition's back 5 and could be perceived as a lack of effort.

There's no doubt he doesn't work as hard as Jesus, but I don't think he has the physical attributes to be able to do so anymore. It's for this reason that I think he'll be moved on in the summer while we can still get a decent fee for him.

 

[Bluewonder]

He's such a talented player but it's been noticeable recently that he's lost the fizz from his legs.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I think he is trying his best to do what Pep wants in terms of workrate and pressing and he improved the longer he was on the pitch. However, where others would pass to a teammate in a better position, 9 out of 10 times he doesn't and tries to score himself. Counted at least three times last night where he could have passed to a runner and didn't. Thing is, he has always been like that but before, he scored so many great individual goals that he was forgiven. Those types of goals have largely dried up this season and he needs to adapt. Nice play for the second goal though.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Seems to be the fashionable thing to say these days that he doesn't work hard.

In a nutshell.

 

[kaz7]

Rusty that's all

 

[simon23]

Started slow and waa poor...then grew into the game. Its not cause he doesnt have the mentality to press but as someone else pointed out he doesnt have the pace to do so like the 3 young lads.....he was naking effort to do so

The one thing he has over everyone one of them is his natueal talent for goal scoring....interesting that people point out his missed chances over the last few weeks and months but little is said of the chances that sterling sane and jesus miss...of course people want to give the young lads a chance but its a strange phenomenon in football that the same chance usnt accoreded to players like sergio.....is it cause people desire to see new players succeed and seem to think that the only way possible is for the other player to fail...im amazed that some peolle arent more excited at the prospect of sergio and jesus playing together in the same team

 

[domalino]

interesting that people point out his missed chances over the last few weeks and months but little is said of the chances that sterling sane and jesus miss...of course people want to give the young lads a chance but its a strange phenomenon in football that the same chance usnt accoreded to players like sergio.....is it cause people desire to see new players succeed and seem to think that the only way possible is for the other player to fail...im amazed that some peolle arent more excited at the prospect of sergio and jesus playing together in the same team

Sané and Sterling add so much more than their goals. Apart from the obvious (assists etc.), they are now the focal point of our play. Our attack goes down the wings and is based around putting them 1v1 against players they beat. Their pace and movement is creating 90% of our chances, and they're our first line of defence, pressing like madmen, sprinting back, stopping counterattacks and making interceptions in midfield.

Aguero scores goals. He doesn't create, he doesn't come up with assists, he doesn't add much defensively and he's not particularly involved in build up play.

That's why it's OK for Sterling or Sané to miss chances. Being clinical in front of goal isn't their entire game. I absolutely love Sergio, but even now when he's trying his hardest, if he's not scoring then he's not really contributing.

 

[kaz7]

Play him saturday as he looks rusty,let him shake that off,sane 1 side raz the other and he will be alright going fowards

 

[simon23]

Sané and Sterling add so much more than their goals. Apart from the obvious (assists etc.), they are now the focal point of our play. Our attack goes down the wings and is based around putting them 1v1 against players they beat. Their pace and movement is creating 90% of our chances, and they're our first line of defence, pressing like madmen, sprinting back, stopping counterattacks and making interceptions in midfield.

Aguero scores goals. He doesn't create, he doesn't come up with assists, he doesn't add much defensively and he's not particularly involved in build up play.

That's why it's OK for Sterling or Sané to miss chances. Being clinical in front of goal isn't their entire game. I absolutely love Sergio, but even now when he's trying his hardest, if he's not scoring then he's not really contributing.

I agree with everytjing you say except the last bit....if we are to become the team that pep wants...sane sterling and jesus ( not so concerned with him) need to be scoring...it isnt ok for either of them to be misding lots of chances as that is what will win you the game and can sometimes prevent a team comjng back...imagine the scenario last night if kun hadnt got that second goal and then bourmouth had got one then sane missed the very good chance he had....goals win us games and its not ok at times to be missing them.....sterling esp needs to work on this aspect of his game..he missed one (deflection onto the post) from 12 yds last night

Kun is trying defensively but like i said, and you pojnted out, it isnt as good as the other 3. its not down to a lack of effort or willingness...he just hasnt got the raw pace the others possess to close down quick enough.

Like ive also said...id like to see jesus kun and sane in the same front 3 as that is the best 3 in terms of goal threat and you still have the options outwide pressing and tackling back ...some peolle are making out that kun doesnt do it at all which us blatantly not true....he won aeveral duels derp in his own half last night. In the first half he was poor ( though again remember he had had no warm up and was probably and still is match rusty) but he grew into the game and got better and better as the game went one.

 

[supercity88]

I'm not ready to write Aguero off, he might have lost the pace he had but equally it's clear from most people that talk about him that he doesn't train very hard. He doesn't put 100% in to his training sessions so when he does play it takes him a run of games to get the sharpness. Generally post injury he takes a while to hit his form. The gametime should have helped and I'd be tempted to use him against Huddersfield to try and get him some more minutes and hopefully a goal to get him in the right fitness and sharpness for the Monaco game.

If he fails to put in the effort Pep expects I think we'll see Nolito or De Bruyne used as a false 9 and I don't think that will be a bad thing.

 

[rapidCT]

The same users who defend Bravo no matter what are the same to diss Hart, Aguero, Otamendi, even Kompany ffs. People who are linked with exists. Which makes me wonder if they are just trolls. We are talking about Aguero! AGUERO! If we think he is not good enough for us than we are not worthy of what he did/does for us. If we don t treat our legends as legends than we are no better than united or real. We should keep our soul through this great era.

 

[Blue Hefner]

The same users who defend Bravo no matter what are the same to diss Hart, Aguero, Otamendi, even Kompany ffs. People who are linked with exists. Which makes me wonder if they are just trolls. We are talking about Aguero! AGUERO! If we think he is not good enough for us than we are not worthy of what he did/does for us. If we don t treat our legends as legends than we are no better than united or real. We should keep our soul through this great era.

That is one thing, continuing to play them when they are past-it is something else altogether

I'm not saying he is past it, but it would be remiss not to look at options

 

[Callum Ramsey]

I agree with everytjing you say except the last bit....if we are to become the team that pep wants...sane sterling and jesus ( not so concerned with him) need to be scoring...it isnt ok for either of them to be misding lots of chances as that is what will win you the game and can sometimes prevent a team comjng back...imagine the scenario last night if kun hadnt got that second goal and then bourmouth had got one then sane missed the very good chance he had....goals win us games and its not ok at times to be missing them.....sterling esp needs to work on this aspect of his game..he missed one (deflection onto the post) from 12 yds last night

Kun is trying defensively but like i said, and you pojnted out, it isnt as good as the other 3. its not down to a lack of effort or willingness...he just hasnt got the raw pace the others possess to close down quick enough.

Like ive also said...id like to see jesus kun and sane in the same front 3 as that is the best 3 in terms of goal threat and you still have the options outwide pressing and tackling back ...some peolle are making out that kun doesnt do it at all which us blatantly not true....he won aeveral duels derp in his own half last night. In the first half he was poor ( though again remember he had had no warm up and was probably and still is match rusty) but he grew into the game and got better and better as the game went one.

I'm sure no one is disputing that we need to score goals to win games and that sterling and sane can be wasteful in that area at times, but it seems you still missed the point that was made in the post you replied to. Goal threat is all well and good and aguero does provide that but if it comes at the expense of team fluidity and balance, that's where the problem comes in. I'm sure when pep bought Ibra for barca, he had it with the intention of someone to provide a goal threat and focal point, which to his credit Ibra did provide that, but he was still sold the following season once it became clear that the team fluidity suffered as a result of that. I'm guessing Pep is of the thinking that the team with the three of sane, jesus and raheem helps create the most number of chances and concede the least due to the work they do off the ball.

I think pep would been fine with aguero not being as good as the other three in pressing if he was consistently creating chances for him team-mates but when you see that jesus has contributed more assists than him in just three games than he has the whole season, then you start to understand why he's been dropped. It's also a reason why sterling and sane will rarely be dropped as although they can be wasteful at times, it was still them that created the two chances(with a bit of luck in sane's case)' that ultimately won the game yesterday. In fact in the 3 games that the trio played together since jesus' arrival, the team scored 9 goals and all three were involved in them one way or the other. This is not to say aguero doesn't have a role to play in the team as yesterday proved with his movement that led to the goal. But when fit sane, jesus and raheem provide the best balance for the team going forward meaning that while there may be chances that will be missed at times, the quality and quantity of those chances are more consistent and increased in comparison to when its with aguero in the team as he tends to be more single-minded in his approach to goalscoring which is a sacrifice pep is willing to make.

 

[Edwin Edwin]

Maybe he is 'rusty',maybe he is indeed 'finished'.Would be nice if he actually decides to turn up for the rest of the season now that he'll get his chance(s),on a consistent basis...Hasn't got much competition now with GJ out.

 

[Rolee]

The same users who defend Bravo no matter what are the same to diss Hart, Aguero, Otamendi, even Kompany ffs. People who are linked with exists. Which makes me wonder if they are just trolls. We are talking about Aguero! AGUERO! If we think he is not good enough for us than we are not worthy of what he did/does for us. If we don t treat our legends as legends than we are no better than united or real. We should keep our soul through this great era.

I defend Bravo against the relentless, disproportionate amount of shit he gets from some but I don't "diss" them other players you mentioned.

 

[cucumberman]

Aguero's blocked shot last night. Was it the better option or should he have squared it left.?

 

[St.Pauli support]

I defend Bravo against the relentless, disproportionate amount of shit he gets from some but I don't "diss" them other players you mentioned.

+1

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Aguero's blocked shot last night. Was it the better option or should he have squared it left.?

therein lies the problem.... Aguero will always be driven by scoring, it's why his assists are poor for such a world class player, any sight of goal and he will pull the trigger. Unfortunately, it goes against peps philosophy of 'team'... I think everyone is hoping kun can adapt but what does seem evident is how he restricts the two wide players compared to GJ..... Hopefully he will get up to speed but there were 3/4 occasions last night where sane and sterling had nothing in the box when trying to penetrate, they actually had to check runs which upset how fluid we were....

We can adapt for kun but having had a taste of how we could potentially play, I feel he may be suited more to the CL!

 

[jaiguruKun]

I wonder whether Jesus's absence will motivate him to show Pep that he still has it. Or has he decided that he's going at the end of the season anyway meaning he won't put 100 % in. The stats show we have been a better side without him over the last season and a half. He looked off the pace yesterday and a bit overweight. He has to prove now that he has a future playing at the very highest level whether it's with us or someone else.