Complaint to BBC regarding Pete the Badge

[waspish]

Back to our friends the BBC. When the Mersyside derby was played on a Monday MOTD2 was put back until that night.This Monday the dippers play Leicester and guess what? Yes MOTD2 has been put back until Monday. When we played Bournemouth on Monday was MOTD2 put back until then?? What do you think!!

Its an all boys club with the scum and liverpool all around a table making decisions what matters to them!

 

[MillionMilesAway]

No reply at all to my complaint yet.

EDIT...just checked email.

This was BBC reply:

Thanks for getting in touch with us.I’ve looked into this issue with my colleagues at BBC Sport and after further investigation we have found that the picture which was sourced from the Press Association had the name “Bertie” added in error without the due diligence we would normally expect from any level of BBC journalism and output following the name appearing on Twitter underneath the picture from the BBC Sport account. Originally, our editor thought that ‘Bertie’ came from our picture source.



After internal discussions, we are satisfied that there was no malice intended towards the individual pictured, or to City fans in general.

We accept that this was a sloppy error and fell well below the journalistic standards the audience rightly expects from the BBC.


We apologise again for any offence caused.


Kind regards

Katherine Tsang

Deputy Complaints ManagerBBC Audience Services



http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

Playing devil's advocate, the only point that I might dispute there is the "added in error" words. I can believe that an editor didn't know/notice, but it's not an error - it's done deliberately by some peabrain.

The "no malice intended" is dependent on the writer's definition of malice. If it's done in jest, then it's not malice.

 

[paulchapo]

Sometimes it is like we are invisible, I swear do we exist?? Now while I agree Chelsea will probably win the league with some to spare, we are second aren't we, two points ahead of Spurs??? Jason Roberts seems to have not spotted us there.

Jason Roberts

Former West Brom striker on Final Score

Posted at16:59
The top of the league feels over and done with in my opinion and it's been that way for a while.

Tottenham don't have the player power to challenge Chelsea.

Even when they are not playing well, they have those special players - Costa, Hazard and the rest - they are far above anyone else in this league.

 

[Deleted member 13905]

bullshit broadcasting cünts.

 

[Marvin]

And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:

Sounds legit. Anyone can mistype 'City fan' as 'Bertie'. I do it all the time.

Too fucking right I'll be escalating that Katherine, particularly after you told me a complete pack of lies in the first place.

What do they mean added in error? Just by sheer chance they came up with Bertie! Obviously whoever did it knew it was a slight and meant it as a slight.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Back to our friends the BBC. When the Mersyside derby was played on a Monday MOTD2 was put back until that night.This Monday the dippers play Leicester and guess what? Yes MOTD2 has been put back until Monday. When we played Bournemouth on Monday was MOTD2 put back until then?? What do you think!!

There is only Spurs v Stoke on tomorrow so you can't really blame them.

 

[Blue Smarties]

Let me know when we can start egging their reporters on matchday. Cheers.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

What do they mean added in error? Just by sheer chance they came up with Bertie! Obviously whoever did it knew it was a slight and meant it as a slight.

Clearly it wasn't an "error". But at least they've moved on from "It was like that when we bought it, honest guv." The wording is very careful and doesn't explicitly say they added it but that's what they seem to be implying.

 

[AntonDonJuan]

Fully advocate @Prestwich_Blue and the rest of you for carrying this on, fair play to you all.

Don't give up and show the bastards up for what they are.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Just looked at their Spurs v Stoke report. Right at the top is a picture of Crouch scoring for them to beat us to a top four spot, seven fucking years ago. We've really hurt them.

 

[andyhinch]

Let me know when we can start egging their reporters on matchday. Cheers.

Why use eggs with the price of bricks as they are ?

 

[Barcon]

Why use eggs with the price of bricks as they are ?

Hoseshit isn't just for the roses.

 

[crazyg]

Listening to the Spuds v Stoke match on 5 dead earlier on my way home from Asda, and they pointed out that Stoke hadn't won against any of the teams above them this season. They then went through every team, except one.

Anyone like to have a guess which one??

 

[Thebigbluehouse]

Trying to tune in my tv on free sat. Stopped at BBC5L for a minute, spuds match had finished and the presenter mentioned something about the big teams.
Liverpool and Ushited were mentioned, nothing on the present top 4 clubs, you've got to laugh. Or did someone pick up a 1990's paper this morning.

 

[manchester blue]

I am contacting to escalate the above referenced complaint to the next level as I am far from happy with the responses to date from Ms Tsang, Deputy Complaints Manager. I have attached the responses for ease of reference.

My original complaint surrounded a photograph published on your Facebook page of a vulnerable and immensely likeable Manchester City supporter with the narrative “He’s been going to Manchester City for fifty years, today he excelled himself, Bertie we salute you.” My complaint is about the offensive and infantile use of the term Bertie.
In Ms Tsang’s responses she claims that there is no malice intended towards Pete (that’s his name by the way) or any City fan and that, "None of the team on the BBC Sport website were aware of “Bertie” as being a derogatory term to describe City fans”.

I would like to refer you to an article by your BBC Sport Website team published on 4th February 2016 entitled “What are the top questions asked about your club?”. The third question in this piece asks, “Why are Man City fans called Berties”. You go on to discover in the answer provided that "You may have heard of a cartoon character in a United magazine called ‘Bertie Magoo the Bitter Blue,’ which is why United fans call City fans ‘the Berties’

If you still stand by your answer that nobody in the sports teams knows about this term, which is now clearly a lie as proven by the above article, and that no offence is intended please have the courage of your convictions and republish the original article in its entirety, after all you have not meant to cause any offence have you?
I have some questions that I want answers to in response to my escalated complaint;

1. What is the name of the journalist who published this item?
2. Why out of all the male names in the world was Bertie chosen when it was not used to be an offensive term?
3. Why was the original response not investigated correctly?
4. Who in the Sports department did Ms Tsang speak to to conclude that "None of the team on the BBC Sport website were aware of “Bertie” as being a derogatory term to describe City fans”?
5. Will you republish the original article again if you do believe it not to be offensive?

I would have had much more respect for Ms Tsang if she actually had the foresight to admit that this was done with the malice that all City fans who have read this are convinced it was intended. There really is no other explanation so please do not insult me with more untruths and respond with the answers to the questions I have asked. I would add that I am prepared to take this complaint as far as possible until you actually commit to tell the truth about this piece.

Regards

 

[aguero93:20]

Edited for accuracy.

More like 86% tbf, 78th minute is the ticket.

 

[TCIB]

I am contacting to escalate the above referenced complaint to the next level as I am far from happy with the responses to date from Ms Tsang, Deputy Complaints Manager. I have attached the responses for ease of reference.

My original complaint surrounded a photograph published on your Facebook page of a vulnerable and immensely likeable Manchester City supporter with the narrative “He’s been going to Manchester City for fifty years, today he excelled himself, Bertie we salute you.” My complaint is about the offensive and infantile use of the term Bertie.
In Ms Tsang’s responses she claims that there is no malice intended towards Pete (that’s his name by the way) or any City fan and that, "None of the team on the BBC Sport website were aware of “Bertie” as being a derogatory term to describe City fans”.

I would like to refer you to an article by your BBC Sport Website team published on 4th February 2016 entitled “What are the top questions asked about your club?”. The third question in this piece asks, “Why are Man City fans called Berties”. You go on to discover in the answer provided that "You may have heard of a cartoon character in a United magazine called ‘Bertie Magoo the Bitter Blue,’ which is why United fans call City fans ‘the Berties’

If you still stand by your answer that nobody in the sports teams knows about this term, which is now clearly a lie as proven by the above article, and that no offence is intended please have the courage of your convictions and republish the original article in its entirety, after all you have not meant to cause any offence have you?
I have some questions that I want answers to in response to my escalated complaint;

1. What is the name of the journalist who published this item?
2. Why out of all the male names in the world was Bertie chosen when it was not used to be an offensive term?
3. Why was the original response not investigated correctly?
4. Who in the Sports department did Ms Tsang speak to to conclude that "None of the team on the BBC Sport website were aware of “Bertie” as being a derogatory term to describe City fans”?
5. Will you republish the original article again if you do believe it not to be offensive?

I would have had much more respect for Ms Tsang if she actually had the foresight to admit that this was done with the malice that all City fans who have read this are convinced it was intended. There really is no other explanation so please do not insult me with more untruths and respond with the answers to the questions I have asked. I would add that I am prepared to take this complaint as far as possible until you actually commit to tell the truth about this piece.

Regards

Excellent, i hate the bullshit and you are concise to that effect, good man.

 

[malg]

I applaud all of you who are fighting the good fight here. The more I read this thread, the more I realise what a bunch of ****s the BBC are. However, fuck all will happen. They knowingly hid a paedophile for 40+ years, with collusion at the highest level - so outing a Rag **** will be low on their list of priorities.

 

[cookster]

I am contacting to escalate the above referenced complaint to the next level as I am far from happy with the responses to date from Ms Tsang, Deputy Complaints Manager. I have attached the responses for ease of reference.

My original complaint surrounded a photograph published on your Facebook page of a vulnerable and immensely likeable Manchester City supporter with the narrative “He’s been going to Manchester City for fifty years, today he excelled himself, Bertie we salute you.” My complaint is about the offensive and infantile use of the term Bertie.
In Ms Tsang’s responses she claims that there is no malice intended towards Pete (that’s his name by the way) or any City fan and that, "None of the team on the BBC Sport website were aware of “Bertie” as being a derogatory term to describe City fans”.

I would like to refer you to an article by your BBC Sport Website team published on 4th February 2016 entitled “What are the top questions asked about your club?”. The third question in this piece asks, “Why are Man City fans called Berties”. You go on to discover in the answer provided that "You may have heard of a cartoon character in a United magazine called ‘Bertie Magoo the Bitter Blue,’ which is why United fans call City fans ‘the Berties’

If you still stand by your answer that nobody in the sports teams knows about this term, which is now clearly a lie as proven by the above article, and that no offence is intended please have the courage of your convictions and republish the original article in its entirety, after all you have not meant to cause any offence have you?
I have some questions that I want answers to in response to my escalated complaint;

1. What is the name of the journalist who published this item?
2. Why out of all the male names in the world was Bertie chosen when it was not used to be an offensive term?
3. Why was the original response not investigated correctly?
4. Who in the Sports department did Ms Tsang speak to to conclude that "None of the team on the BBC Sport website were aware of “Bertie” as being a derogatory term to describe City fans”?
5. Will you republish the original article again if you do believe it not to be offensive?

I would have had much more respect for Ms Tsang if she actually had the foresight to admit that this was done with the malice that all City fans who have read this are convinced it was intended. There really is no other explanation so please do not insult me with more untruths and respond with the answers to the questions I have asked. I would add that I am prepared to take this complaint as far as possible until you actually commit to tell the truth about this piece.

Regards

Excellent. Keep fighting blues.

 

[Bozo]

I am contacting to escalate the above referenced complaint to the next level as I am far from happy with the responses to date from Ms Tsang, Deputy Complaints Manager. I have attached the responses for ease of reference.

My original complaint surrounded a photograph published on your Facebook page of a vulnerable and immensely likeable Manchester City supporter with the narrative “He’s been going to Manchester City for fifty years, today he excelled himself, Bertie we salute you.” My complaint is about the offensive and infantile use of the term Bertie.
In Ms Tsang’s responses she claims that there is no malice intended towards Pete (that’s his name by the way) or any City fan and that, "None of the team on the BBC Sport website were aware of “Bertie” as being a derogatory term to describe City fans”.

I would like to refer you to an article by your BBC Sport Website team published on 4th February 2016 entitled “What are the top questions asked about your club?”. The third question in this piece asks, “Why are Man City fans called Berties”. You go on to discover in the answer provided that "You may have heard of a cartoon character in a United magazine called ‘Bertie Magoo the Bitter Blue,’ which is why United fans call City fans ‘the Berties’

If you still stand by your answer that nobody in the sports teams knows about this term, which is now clearly a lie as proven by the above article, and that no offence is intended please have the courage of your convictions and republish the original article in its entirety, after all you have not meant to cause any offence have you?
I have some questions that I want answers to in response to my escalated complaint;

1. What is the name of the journalist who published this item?
2. Why out of all the male names in the world was Bertie chosen when it was not used to be an offensive term?
3. Why was the original response not investigated correctly?
4. Who in the Sports department did Ms Tsang speak to to conclude that "None of the team on the BBC Sport website were aware of “Bertie” as being a derogatory term to describe City fans”?
5. Will you republish the original article again if you do believe it not to be offensive?

I would have had much more respect for Ms Tsang if she actually had the foresight to admit that this was done with the malice that all City fans who have read this are convinced it was intended. There really is no other explanation so please do not insult me with more untruths and respond with the answers to the questions I have asked. I would add that I am prepared to take this complaint as far as possible until you actually commit to tell the truth about this piece.

Regards

Solid work Blue, keep it up