Summer Transfers

i would spend a disgusting amount on dele alli, to replace silva. goals from centre midfield can only help
 
manygoose said:
i would spend a disgusting amount on dele alli, to replace silva. goals from centre midfield can only help
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surely we could sign isco to do that? for the price spuds would want for alli we could sign isco and weigl for midfield!
 
93Aguero20 said:
He's nowhere near good enough for us. We need top quality players who will take us to that next level. Ox wont.
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Cobra said:
He's wank. 6 seasons at Arsenal and he has scored a grand total of 9 league goals. Dele Alli has more this season alone.
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Sterling under Pellegrini wasn't good enough for us either.

Oxlade-Chamberlain is one of a long line of young players who have arrived at Arsenal and been chronically mis-managed, not lived up to their potential and suffered because of it. Guardiola would be the perfect coach to get that potential out of him, so I would not be worried if I heard we were going in for him, it would mean Pep obviously sees some untapped quality there.

Also the fact he can play in Central midfield reasonably well would be useful as you can never have too many midfielders.

The biggest worry would be injuries, but he seems to have gotten over them in the last 12 months.
 
Our first target should be another winger IMO.

We desperately, desperately need someone capable of coming in for Sterling or Sané and carrying a similar threat. if it's Roberts, that'd brilliant, but if he's not good enough then we need someone quickly.
 
richards30 said:
surely we could sign isco to do that? for the price spuds would want for alli we could sign isco and weigl for midfield!
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does isco score many goals? always thought he was a silva-like playmaker instead of a de bruyne-like goalscoring #10.
 
Don't want Alli about the place. His work ethic and attitude are toxic and, for all his talent, he fits the system and style in Spurs much better where he can laze around and leach off Harry Kane. Isco is a far better option here on every level.

As for the Ox, he actually does put in a shift and his effort is in line with requirements under Guardiola. So does Delph though, so obviously effort isn't everything. IMO, Ox would be good squad depth but never a first team starter. If he's happy enough playing that role, as he's done at Arsenal, and he's not outrageously expensive, then why not?
 
My squad for next season:

Caballero
Bravo
Gunn

Sidibé
Maffeo

Bonucci
Stones
Kolarov
Kompany

Grimaldo
Henrichs

Fernandinho
Mooy
García

Silva
De Bruyne
Gundogan
Isco

Sané
Nolito

Sterling
Roberts

Aguero
Jesus
Iheanacho

A 25-man squad, 3 back from loan, 5 new signings, 6HG.
 
manygoose said:
does isco score many goals? always thought he was a silva-like playmaker instead of a de bruyne-like goalscoring #10.
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De Bruyne who's only got 3 goals this season?

Isco is definitely a goal threat. He got roughly 1 in 4 at Malaga. At Real he's got fewer but he's often been shunted out wide and has had play time interrupted so it's hard to compare. 6 in 20 League games so far this season though. He's definitely capable of scoring from outside the box which we've missed since Yaya stopped doing it.
 
MarsLlama said:
My squad for next season:

Caballero
Bravo
Gunn

Sidibé
Maffeo

Bonucci
Stones
Kolarov
Kompany

Grimaldo
Henrichs

Fernandinho
Mooy
García

Silva
De Bruyne
Gundogan
Isco

Sané
Nolito

Sterling
Roberts

Aguero
Jesus
Iheanacho

A 25-man squad, 3 back from loan, 5 new signings, 6HG.
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Bonucci can't have been more clear that he's not interested in moving. Mooy would be dead weight IMO.

Other than that I like it.
 
domalino said:
Our first target should be another winger IMO.

We desperately, desperately need someone capable of coming in for Sterling or Sané and carrying a similar threat. if it's Roberts, that'd brilliant, but if he's not good enough then we need someone quickly.
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If we want homegrown then Demerai Gray could be a good option. He looks brilliant every time I see him and most Leicester fans are baffled that he doesn't start every match.
 
domalino said:
De Bruyne who's only got 3 goals this season?

Isco is definitely a goal threat. He got roughly 1 in 4 at Malaga. At Real he's got fewer but he's often been shunted out wide and has had play time interrupted so it's hard to compare. He's definitely capable of scoring from outside the box which we've missed since Yaya stopped doing it.
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and what did de bruyne get the last season and the season before that? he's having a poor season in terms of goals. i think it's fair to say de bruyne is a different style of #10 to silva.

back to isco. he's had a hard time at madrid. not regularly starting so it's hard to judge his stats. what's certain is he would cost much less than alli but would score less as well.
 
Cobra said:
If we want homegrown then Demerai Gray could be a good option. He looks brilliant every time I see him and most Leicester fans are baffled that he doesn't start every match.
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Gray would definitely be an exciting option, but with Leicester almost definitely staying up now and Leicester's management, I suspect he'll be very expensive for what he is.
 
  • Isco For Nolito (OK Isco prefers playing central but can play out wide as an out to in winger & he will eventually replace Silva)

  • MBappe For Navas (Navas is a honest hard-working player but near zero end-product)

  • Bertrand in (affordable, HG and IMO underrated)> Kolarov stays but as a backup CB

  • Fabinho in (perfect for Pep's inverted full-back thing) > Replaces Sagna or Zab

  • Van Dijk in for Otamendi (or Kompany if he can't get over injury issues). I think Pep prefers Laporte by the sounds of it, I prefer PL proven Van Dijk, he is also a very strong character/leader, something we need, especially when Kompany is missing. Think Adarabioyo may leave (don't think City will meet his new contract/wage demands).

  • Carvalho in > Fernando out (On recent performances I think Yaya can do another year if he's happy to be a squad player & take a pay-cut ... IF!!

  • If we get an unbelievable offer for Aguero and Aubameyang is attainable I would do that. I fancy Aubameyang would be excellent in PL, he has unbelievable pace and is excellent in the air too (a dimension we're missing). Aguero is a class player no doubt, but not sure he can meet the demands of a Pep team week in.week out, so lets cash in now while we can get silly money for him!

  • We need a top keeper. Honestly I don't give a sh*t how good his feet are I don't want Bravo, even as a No.2. BTW please don't take this p*ss out of him at games it doesn't help our cause making him more nervous, some of the ironic cheers from City fans I heard in the South Stand when he made a save were embarrassing. How good are Butland's feet? Before he got injured I thought he was by far and away the best English keeper!! Big Willy deserves another year on his contract for me, unless we're planning on promoting Gunn.

To make this all work need to get good money for several players on loan (hard work as other clubs think we're a f*cking charity), I don't see anyway back for: Mangala, Nasri, Hart, Denayor, Bony (f*ck knows who'll take Bony) and not sure the likes of Zinchecnko and Roberts are ready., .... others, Maffeo, Angelino not sure about them either, I like Maffeo though ...

Forget trying to sign Spurs players as Levy is a c*nt and would ask for unrealistic fees for Ali and Rose (it would literally be in the region of £130m - £140m for the two)
 
Am I right in thinking there are no summer tournaments this year ? If so it'll be good for our squad to get a decent break and a proper pre season.
 
MCFC_4Heatons said:
  • Isco For Nolito (OK Isco prefers playing central but can play out wide as an out to in winger & he will eventually replace Silva)

  • MBappe For Navas (Navas is a honest hard-working player but near zero end-product)

  • Bertrand in (affordable, HG and IMO underrated)> Kolarov stays but as a backup CB

  • Fabinho in (perfect for Pep's inverted full-back thing) > Replaces Sagna or Zab

  • Van Dijk in for Otamendi (or Kompany if he can't get over injury issues). I think Pep prefers Laporte by the sounds of it, I prefer PL proven Van Dijk, he is also a very strong character/leader, something we need, especially when Kompany is missing. Think Adarabioyo may leave (don't think City will meet his new contract/wage demands).

  • Carvalho in > Fernando out (On recent performances I think Yaya can do another year if he's happy to be a squad player & take a pay-cut ... IF!!

  • If we get an unbelievable offer for Aguero and Aubameyang is attainable I would do that. I fancy Aubameyang would be excellent in PL, he has unbelievable pace and is excellent in the air too (a dimension we're missing). Aguero is a class player no doubt, but not sure he can meet the demands of a Pep team week in.week out, so lets cash in now while we can get silly money for him!

  • We need a top keeper. Honestly I don't give a sh*t how good his feet are I don't want Bravo, even as a No.2. BTW please don't take this p*ss out of him at games it doesn't help our cause making him more nervous, some of the ironic cheers from City fans I heard in the South Stand when he made a save were embarrassing. How good are Butland's feet? Before he got injured I thought he was by far and away the best English keeper!! Big Willy deserves another year on his contract for me, unless we're planning on promoting Gunn.
To make this all work need to get good money for several players on loan (hard work as other clubs think we're a f*cking charity), I don't see anyway back for: Mangala, Nasri, Hart, Denayor, Bony (f*ck knows who'll take Bony) and not sure the likes of Zinchecnko and Roberts are ready., .... others, Maffeo, Angelino not sure about them either, I like Maffeo though ...

Forget trying to sign Spurs players as Levy is a c*nt and would ask for unrealistic fees for Ali and Rose (it would literally be in the region of £130m - £140m for the two)
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Isco mbappe carvalho fabinho will want 1st team football .You have them replacing players who are not getting a game at the moment
 
Akiva said:
I agree we need more squad depth, but Mbappe isn't the answer.

When GJ comes back it'll be the same question being asked as before, bench Aguero or not? Another forward similar to Jesus won't help much at all.

FWIW We also need to be in on at least one CB and a CM. Keeping and leaning exclusively on Willy breaks the philosophy of signing young, long term talent too. I'd be looking at something more like this:
Isco
Fabinho
Laporte
Bernat
Moraes
Llorente

I'd be happy with one or both of Heinrich or Berciche, and if Isco is a no-go then priorities should shift to a Bernardo Silva. Arguably our lack of plan b in attack, as illustrated last night, is overshadowed by our lack of plan b for Spanish Dave. I'm confident Isco is on this time, and would be the ideal long term successor to Merlin, but if not then I'd prioritise a playmaker of similar caliber. As for striker, sure if Aguero leaves then Mbappe or maybe Aubameyang, but Sane-Jesus-Sterling is more than sufficient with the right passes behind them and the option of Kun to avoid splashing 60m or more on the position.
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I think my view was that at a minimum we needed those 4. I'm always for more. :)

That said I get your position on Goalkeeper. I was just saying if we didn't buy one we could always go that route.

I'm not as big on the DM need though. I think we need a concentration of players that can breakdown the opposition not defensive watercarriers. That's what Bakayoko, Fabihno etc are in my eyes.

We'll need that guys in 6 games all season. 3 times on the road in the Prem and 3 times on the road to top European teams at the most. Funny enough, I'd rather just have Dihno or OTamendi play that role in those games. While we stack up on players of Isco, Silva, Gundogan, Debryune and Dahoud type technical capabilities. Not to mention Garcia who I believe is about ready for prime time.

CB depends on Komps, no?


Edit: Just realized you had Fabihno as a fullback and not as a DM. My bad. Negates my whole diatribe :-)
 
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