What about voting for a party based on the false illusion that they are good with the economy, despite missing even the economic targets they set for themselves? Does that require a mental retardation, or is it so clever it just seems stupid to idiots like me?Supporting a football team requires loyalty and blind faith - you don't need to think you just support your team.
Voting in a general election requires that you engage your brain and do what's right for the country.
Two very different things.
Anyone who votes for a party because their granddad always voted for them is mentally retarded.
Have you seen the state of our national debt since the Tories took over ?
Of course, this is not their fault because they are great with the economy, but rather the fault of the last labour govt. As you say - rinse and repeat.
What about voting for a party based on the false illusion that they are good with the economy, despite missing even the economic targets they set for themselves? Does that require a mental retardation, or is it so clever it just seems stupid to idiots like me?
Just as labour push the myth that you can make money by spending it, the Tories are in denial about the need to raise taxes. We are an aging, growing, and less healthy population, so yes we do need to raise taxation if we are to get adequate services. Anyone who can afford to privately educate their kids, buy private healthcare, and pay for care in their old age without govt help will be much better off voting conservative. Anyone else who thinks the Tories are good for them just because they have a few quid or a small business is a turkey voting for Xmas.They are trying to reduce the national debt and balance the books. All they've succeeded in doing is slowing down the rate of increase of our debt. Despite this they are castigated by the media for 'austerity'. No other party will be honest enough to discuss that fact that we need to live within our means. No other party understands that it's people not governments that create wealth. A government can really fuck the economy but the best thing is for them to do less and let us get on with our lives. As I say, 'vote Conservative it's the least bad option (by a million miles)'.
You have no figures to base your Tory economic miracle on though do you? Its just a tired cliche based on the '70's three day week.I agree you are a stupid idiot if you believe any other party will manage the economy better than the Tories.
Vote Conservative - they will be less damaging than any other party.
They are also most likely to ensure that the democratic decision of the UK electorate to leave the EU will be carried out.
It's rumored that after the general election Jezz is going to hang around until the NEC agree to a change in the rules for electing a leader whereby a candidate requires fewer MPs to get on the ballot paper. This ensures a left wing candidate will make the cut for the nomination process and will be elected by the members.Corbyn just pontificates about what I should believe and that is what makes him totally unelectable, it is great that he will be gone in a couple of months time.
This is all a bit cry-wank.The weird thing with Blair is that if you forget Iraq he was actually a great prime minister and it shows. Even though I disagree with him, at least he has a clear position that people can vote for. That ability to make a decision and ride with it is why he won elections and was elected twice, he chose a route and people agreed with him. Because he was also centrist he had views that weren't at either extreme so he was a great option unless your views were at those fringes.
With Corbyn people still do not know a single thing, every week he just protests at the Tory position but his own position remains unannounced. Why doesn't he just say he is for or against free movement and what he plans to get out of negotiations. His idea so far is to walk in and say to the EU what do you want before he knows what WE want. I get the impression he doesn't care, he just wants to impose marxist rule on the country, who cares about governing..
So fair play to Blair, I don't like what he did with Iraq nor do I agree with his position to overturn the referendum but at least he has a position that I can choose to agree or disagree with.... Corbyn just pontificates about what I should believe and that is what makes him totally unelectable, it is great that he will be gone in a couple of months time.
But they're great with the economy. Anything wrong with the economy now is due to the labour last govt, just like in the 1980's.Wasn't going to bother reading that but glad I did. What a fucking disgrace the Tories are re the NHS. And I'm certain that's only half the story . And the Tory lovers sit back and egg them on by voting the bastards in. Deary me.
You have no figures to base your Tory economic miracle on though do you? Its just a tired cliche based on the '70's three day week.
On the basis of construction in MCR you might as well vote for the IRA. As one of the richest countries i n the world I'd expect us to have decent public services and not cuts. I think the Tories have been in power long enough to take full credit for the situation we find ourselves in tbh. I'm sure though they will blame it on the last govt and then brexit if its still crap in a few years time.I just look around me at all the construction work in the centre of Manchester and at Wembley yesterday and everywhere else I go.
I see one of the richest countries in the world, with massive potential and an amazing future.
I'm not party political, I grew up hating Thatcher, then I did grow up and realised I was wrong and she was right (in my defence I was very young).
I don't give the Tories all the credit for the situation we find ourselves in, just the lion's share.
One of the main differences between a socialist and a conservative (note the lower case 'c') is that the former doesn't trust people to do the right thing and the latter does.
Support City, vote Conservative and sleep soundly at night.
Yeah. I've chided myself for not saying that as well.This.
Deficit is reducing.Have you seen the state of our national debt since the Tories took over ?
Of course, this is not their fault because they are great with the economy, but rather the fault of the last labour govt. As you say - rinse and repeat.
This.Anyone who votes for a party because their granddad always voted for them is mentally retarded.
He said they are better than the alternative. Such as increasing the deficit AND the debt whilst the economy was growing for over a decade. It takes some mismanagement to do that.What about voting for a party based on the false illusion that they are good with the economy
They've just axed the commitment not to raise taxes.the Tories are in denial about the need to raise taxes.
Absolutely, but how do we square that with being the fifth richest country in the world? Even if we are run on the same economic model as the rags we should still have a functional NHS and education system. I don't subscribe to corbyns borrow and spend our way to economic success model, but surely there must be a way to improve the books and still give everyone a decent life?Deficit is reducing.
The debt can't reduce until the deficit is a surplus.
Can't get a surplus whilst spunnking everything on more public spending.
Keynes would disagree. Both FDR and Hitler managed it.Just as labour push the myth that you can make money by spending it,
I think the key is to raise taxes and then have less rather than more cuts.They've just axed the commitment not to raise taxes.
And weirdly were only vilified on here for doing so by the left. Very odd.
Corbyn likes this.On the basis of construction in MCR you might as well vote for the IRA
Sadly I think the Tories are happy with an 80/20 model.Absolutely, but how do we square that with being the fifth richest country in the world? Even if we are run on the same economic model as the rags we should still have a functional NHS and education system. I don't subscribe to corbyns borrow and spend our way to economic success model, but surely there must be a way to improve the books and still give everyone a decent life?