Fernandinho is better than Yaya as a pivot, it's not even close. Yaya is a liability against anyway willing to press or attack when they have possession. Just look at the Bernardo Silva clip, it's embarrassing.
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Fernandinho is better than Yaya as a pivot, it's not even close. Yaya is a liability against anyway willing to press or attack when they have possession. Just look at the Bernardo Silva clip, it's embarrassing.
Trautmann's Chiropractor
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If Fabinho is off and these Carvalho links aren't true then I'd really like to see Leandro Paredes come in.
Hamann Pineapple
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Valverde taking charge at Barca could be a game changer regards Neymar leaving.
Fernandinho is better than Yaya as a pivot, it's not even close. Yaya is a liability against anyway willing to press or attack when they have possession. Just look at the Bernardo Silva clip, it's embarrassing.
No, Yaya is vital if we're against anyone intent on pressing us, which is why he plays so often.
He is always available to receive the ball from someone in trouble, always shrugs off pressure on himself, and generally knows how to beat a press. To say he's a liability when we are being pressed is completely wrong.
We are a team which usually has 60-70% possession, and when we have possession, Yaya is twice the player Fernandinho is in that role - which is why whenever we played that single pivot after he came back, Yaya is who played, not Fernandinho.
In fact the one major exception to that was in the Monaco away game, when we were very aggressively pressed and without Yaya could not keep hold of the ball at all - which is why we lost.
BillyShears saying he has info from a very well placed source that Fabihno isn't coming to England this summer
Isn't he the same bloke that said we were all in for Pickford and Ederson wasn't coming only last week? I'd hold fire before taking his word as gospel.
Obviously appreciate that people say things in good faith, but you never know.
more likely or less likely? Why?Valverde taking charge at Barca could be a game changer regards Neymar leaving.
kaz7
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Fabhino is off bit Ederson is rumoured to have landed this afternoonSo I'm back from work, did I miss anything ?
Thanks KarenFabhino is off bit Ederson is rumoured to have landed this afternoon
Fabhino is off but ederson landed this afternoon
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This. He had one amazing season with us and has been declining ever since then.
Me too. Fernandinho been poor this season.
uwe rosler 28
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I won't believe fabinho is off until the transfer window closes
City_Sean
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Isn't he the same bloke that said we were all in for Pickford and Ederson wasn't coming only last week? I'd hold fire before taking his word as gospel.
Obviously appreciate that people say things in good faith, but you never know.
To be fair, as someone who's met him and spoke to him a fair bit, his info is genuine. I'd put stock in what he's said.
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I'll pour acid in my eyes if we sign Carvalho. He's 25 and still playing in Portugal. Why do you think nobody has even put in a bid for him yet? His agent keeps peddling bullshit rumours every summer hoping someone in the top 5 leagues picks him up, but nobody will. He's worse than Fernando.
Better passer than Fernando
The issue with him is mobility/agility. Not sure he could patrol the pivot area on his own in the PL any better than a 34yr old Yaya
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To be fair, as someone who's met him and spoke to him a fair bit, his info is genuine. I'd put stock in what he's said.
you cant just ignore the fact he was adamant we weren't in for ederson and pickford was the one we were after. maybe his source is just wrong, no one is saying he's making stuff up for shits and giggles.
uwe rosler 28
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We have signed 1 player and not 1 itk called it so for me maybe the clubs and agents are calling each others bluff by putting stories out. PS I do appreciate all info that is given its that things just change ie kaka,laporte
To be fair, as someone who's met him and spoke to him a fair bit, his info is genuine. I'd put stock in what he's said.
Yeah, I'm not dismissing, I just thought it was worth mentioning - I'm pretty sure he's been saying that we were after Pickford all summer and was the only ITK on here to say so, with everyone else saying it was Ederson.
That Zin bloke told us to ignore his Pickford claims the other day and it was Ederson - he was correct with this. He's also saying that Fabinho completely isn't off the cards.
No, Yaya is vital if we're against anyone intent on pressing us, which is why he plays so often.
He is always available to receive the ball from someone in trouble, always shrugs off pressure on himself, and generally knows how to beat a press. To say he's a liability when we are being pressed is completely wrong.
We are a team which usually has 60-70% possession, and when we have possession, Yaya is twice the player Fernandinho is in that role - which is why whenever we played that single pivot after he came back, Yaya is who played, not Fernandinho.
In fact the one major exception to that was in the Monaco away game, when we were very aggressively pressed and without Yaya could not keep hold of the ball at all - which is why we lost.
You clearly don't remember the Liverpool home game (15/16).
City_Sean
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you cant just ignore the fact he was adamant we weren't in for ederson and pickford was the one we were after. maybe his source is just wrong, no one is saying he's making stuff up for shits and giggles.
To be fair, the limited Journos I speak to told me that Pickford was being heavily monitored by City.
You clearly don't remember the Liverpool home game (15/16).
Why would anyone care about a game played under different manager with completely different tactics and when Yaya was 2 stone heavier and playing awfully?
That game is less than meaningless to any discussion about our team next season.
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