Yes - I saw it and fair fucks - he does a good job of campaigning. Polar opposite to May.
Thankfully, from my POV, most people do not attend these rallies and get their views online
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General Election June 8th
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Thankfully, from my POV, most people do not attend these rallies and get their views online
Corbyn wants to give the elderly dignity, working people a wage they can live on and the young a free education to realise their potential. May wants to run through fields of wheat butchering foxes.
I voted Lib Dem last time and the time before. I even voted Tory once in 1992 but I was naive then ( and couldn't abide Kinnock) ;-)
The Labour manifesto has done it for me. I can't vote Lib Dem again because they made a second referendum the central point, and I say that as a remainer.
Chippy_boy
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Considering the fall out from half his cabinet wanting him to go, the Tories celebrating his appointment because 'he will give the Tories another 10 years!' .. 'no one wants socialism' etc it is a remarkable turnaround, yes May has helped bring utterly out of her depth in recent weeks but Corbyn deserves a lot of credit and hard for some to swallow but respect.
Agreed. He's done well.
jay_mcfc
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I think that you are the one that has: "............clearly made your mind up?"
You say "................in his eyes he wasn't meeting or discussing with the IRA but a political group............"
That is, IMO, a shameful 'dressing up' of reality - you cannot really believe it, you must just be continuing your denial.
But OK - let's give it a go - so the logic of your stance here is that his actions were in fact legitimate because he was interacting with 'politicians' - have I got that right?
OK, so when he stood observing a minute's silence for the death of 8 IRA terrorists - how does that square with your reengineering of reality? Did he not know that they were terrorists?
Did he not realise that the 8 IRA members killed were notorious for targeting and murdering British civilian labourers carrying out building work on NI police stations??
Did nobody tell him that they were actually killed during one of their many gun and bomb attacks on these installations??
How does that square with your claim: "................that doesn't mean he ever accepted or condoned their (the IRA's) actions."
What your ilk don't understand is that Corbyn is purely a man of peace and that's all he's ever wanted and fought for. At the time he was fighting against Maggie's determination to fight terrorism only with violence and not through discussion, something that very rarely ends well. He also fought for the human rights of the prisoners (we all know how that ended!) and he was attending a meeting in Parliament about prison conditions and re-education of prisoners when they had a minutes silence for all the people killed in the conflict, including a civilian who was killed by the SAS during the ambush.
bluethrunthru
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Yes - I saw it and fair fucks - he does a good job of campaigning. Polar opposite to May.
Thankfully, from my POV, most people do not attend these rallies and get their views online
currently looking at my lounge wall - compared with May my chimney breast is smashing it on the stumps and would have anyone's attention compared with her
bluethrunthru
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What your ilk don't understand is that Corbyn is purely a man of peace and that's all he's ever wanted and fought for. At the time he was fighting against Maggie's determination to fight terrorism only with violence and not through discussion, something that very rarely ends well. He also fought for the human rights of the prisoners (we all know how that ended!) and he was attending a meeting in Parliament about prison conditions and re-education of prisoners when they had a minutes silence for all the people killed in the conflict, including a civilian who was killed by the SAS during the ambush.
oh dear someone is worried.
what "people of your ilk" don't understand that oddly enough most sane people like the sound of peace over war. Maggies fight against terrorism was ended with the peace talks and the Good Friday Agreement remember - there was no decisive battle - no crushing victory
Labour mentality in a nutshell.Fantastic rousing and inspirational speech from Corbyn there. It's a shame there isn't a record of voters kept so Tory voters don't benefit from Labour policies if they win.. No £10 min wage and they go to the back of the queue for NHS treatment etc..
It's easy to promise the earth when your in opposition & likely to remain so. This is a bloke who the labour members tried to get rid of & of course in true labour style will borrow money to fund his promises, hand it out all over the place & bankrupt the country in no time. Hopefully enough people have long enough memories to remember what living under a labour government is really like.
On TV the other day he stood proudly with Abbott on one side & Chacrabarti on the other....a vision of hell if these get power.
Corbyn wants to give the elderly dignity, working people a wage they can live on and the young a free education to realise their potential. May wants to run through fields of wheat butchering foxes.
Good summary.
Corbyn wants to give the elderly dignity, working people a wage they can live on and the young a free education to realise their potential. May wants to run through fields of wheat butchering foxes.
Cheap shite like this makes a mockery of the election.
You can quite easily say that May wants to maintain a strong economy and Corbyn wants to borrow borrow borrow to end austerity.
The truth is there's good and bad in both manifestos.
jay_mcfc
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oh dear someone is worried.
what "people of your ilk" don't understand that oddly enough most sane people like the sound of peace over war. Maggies fight against terrorism was ended with the peace talks and the Good Friday Agreement remember - there was no decisive battle - no crushing victory
Yeah, 15 years and thousands of lives too late.
Fantastic rousing and inspirational speech from Corbyn there. It's a shame there isn't a record of voters kept so Tory voters don't benefit from Labour policies if they win.. No £10 min wage and they go to the back of the queue for NHS treatment etc..
For the many, not the few eh?
bluethrunthru
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Yeah, 15 years and thousands of lives too late.
well the bombing campaign and the Army offensive to oppose it were not a success for either side. Follow your model and we would be at it with both sides still.
bluethrunthru
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Labour mentality in a nutshell.
It's easy to promise the earth when your in opposition & likely to remain so. This is a bloke who the labour members tried to get rid of & of course in true labour style will borrow money to fund his promises, hand it out all over the place & bankrupt the country in no time. Hopefully enough people have long enough memories to remember what living under a labour government is really like.
On TV the other day he stood proudly with Abbott on one side & Chacrabarti on the other....a vision of hell if these get power.
Labour members endorsed Jeremy Corbyn as leader massively - twice !!!!!
Chippy_boy
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Good summary.
No. It was absolute bollocks, and you know it.
Labour members endorsed Jeremy Corbyn as leader massively - twice !!!!!
For labour member read lefty students
jay_mcfc
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well the bombing campaign and the Army offensive to oppose it were not a success for either side. Follow your model and we would be at it with both sides still.
What? That doesn't even make sense?
bluethrunthru
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For labour member read lefty students
Labour members - or do you know all 313k who voted for him? That comment is as ill conceived as me calling all Tories the Blue Rinse Brigade or Eton Toffs.
Nice to see the Tory support panicking though. Not the cake walk you all thought eh?
No. It was absolute bollocks, and you know it.
To be fair you post non stop bollocks on here, and you know it!
You will be devastated on Friday morning when your pin up Theresa is out on her ear!
hilts
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Labour members endorsed Jeremy Corbyn as leader massively - twice !!!!!
We call them the cult nowadays fella, like the mormons without the dress sense
Surprised we haven't had scruffy twats accosting us on the bus with their book of momentum
bluethrunthru
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What? That doesn't even make sense?
ok to make it simple for you
the bombing offensive ( the IRA campaign against the British Army and establishment ) and the Army offensive to oppose it ( our governments attempt to subjugate the IRA and stop the bombings ) were not a success for either side ( neither the republican movement nor HM Govt prevailed despite a long conflict ). Your comment about 15 years and thousands of lives too late I agree with but weren't you inferring that was foolish and you seemed to think both sides should have just carried on slugging it out like an ageing Rocky vs Apollo Creed which prompted my comment that if that was the case we would still be at it toe to toe even now. The best way to end conflicts is not to have them but once there is a shooting war the best way to resolve it is by talking
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