Danilo

[Dax777]

I don't give a shit what we pay for any player and I am at a loss to explain why so many people on here seem to do. What is important is that the player is successful with the club. I have no idea if his kid is any good, because I have never seen him play. I will hope the people at the club who have seen him play and deemed him good enough for us are proven correct.

Fair enough. I on the other hand give a shit. I. Pissed off when we overpay for average players only to turn around a year and a half later unable to sell them for a fraction of what we paid. There are 7-8 senior players been shopped around and folks are balking to even pay 10 million.

We have to understand that are evaluations will sometimes not work out. Every clubs have imports that don't pan out. The way you succeed with such players is by not overpaying to start with. At least I think it is.

 

[domalino]

Mods not bothering to control this convo lol. Discussion has definitely gone into discussion over youth players than about Danilo.

We're coming back round to Danilo now. It did take a rather heated detour for 10 pages or so but the tweets brought us back.

 

[IWasHere]

For an academy player to get good enough they have to play at this level... For example, do you think Harry Kane wouldn't have gotten a chance here? Definitely not is the answer.

That's one example, how many were deemed 'good enough' but flopped when they were tested at the highest level?

 

[eversince 76]

Danilo is typical a player that we will need to see if he's worth getting him in for what is quite a lot of money. Yet it'll prove when the player is sold or stops playing if he's been worth the money. I haven't seen a lot from him. Great at Porto, not too often a starter for Real. Let's hope he and Walker will both be a succes and a good pairing to rotate.

 

[mosssideblue]

Mods not bothering to control this convo lol. Discussion has definitely gone into discussion over youth players than about Danilo.

snitch :)

 

[Tez Tosterone]

http://www.football-espana.net/65249/man-city-complete-deal-danilo

Done deal? Just awaiting medical and the confirmation?

Sorry if I have missed anything in the last .2 hrs

 

[arfurclue]

I'm not, It's the truth that if you create a system where players have to be world class at 18, and improve the starting XI of one of the best teams in the world on debut, you will never, ever have an academy player in the team.

This might be a discussion for another thread. But is there an argument to say that it shouldn't be easy for academy kids to break into the first team/ Yes you might
end up with many, at first, that might fall away but then those who overcome the challenges will be stronger players in the long run (and may even lead to
a growth in mental strength within other kids). Am no saying this ir 'right' necessarily but surely another way of looking at things?

 

[Cityisland]

Some guy on twitter- Di Marzio: Danilo to MCFC for €30m + €5m in add-ons in a 5yr contract. He could sign tomorrow in LA or on Friday.

 

[sandbachblue]

Sky saying £26.5m.

 

[Blue Smarties]

Not sure on this one. What's the overall feeling from those who watch more La Liga than I do?

 

[mad zab]

Fair enough. I on the other hand give a shit. I. Pissed off when we overpay for average players only to turn around a year and a half later unable to sell them for a fraction of what we paid. There are 7-8 senior players been shopped around and folks are balking to even pay 10 million.

We have to understand that are evaluations will sometimes not work out. Every clubs have imports that don't pan out. The way you succeed with such players is by not overpaying to start with. At least I think it is.

Why do you get pissed off about the fee? If the club couldn't afford them they wouldn't pay them. We have made more good buys than bad ones overall and that is all you can judge the people in charge on.

I couldn't care less about what people outside of our club think about us!

 

[domalino]

Not sure on this one. What's the overall feeling from those who watch more La Liga than I do?

I watch quite a lot of La Liga and his performances at Real Madrid would not make you want to sign him. He was awful to begin with, then became average towards the end.

This signing will presumably be based on his Porto days and the belief that he'll be much better here than at Real for whatever reasons - different league, different tactics, change of scenery, different coach etc.

So having said that it's really hard to judge the transfer.

 

[Homar]

Think this pretty much confirms it.

 

[yeah whatever !!]

Why do you get pissed off about the fee? If the club couldn't afford them they wouldn't pay them. We have made more good buys than bad ones overall and that is all you can judge the people in charge on.

I couldn't care less about what people outside of our club think about us!

Flapping that there's not enough players, then flapping about how much they cost when we get em,then flapping that its unfair on youngsters, then flapping for flappings sake..


Oh ffs.. have I missed owt ??

 

[oakiecokie]

Why do you get pissed off about the fee? If the club couldn't afford them they wouldn't pay them. We have made more good buys than bad ones overall and that is all you can judge the people in charge on.

I couldn't care less about what people outside of our club think about us!

+1

 

[City_J]

my take on it is that he is worse than walker at right-back but better than Zaba and Sagna, worse than Mendy at left-back but better than Clichy and Kolarov, not a signing i will get really excited about but a good deal imo.

 

[NQCitizen]

How does a youth player become 'ready'?

Is it the Chelsea way of loaning them out every year?

Pros: they get 100 first team games.

Cons: they constantly have to readjust to new clubs and people. They don't have stability on the pitch (positions, roles, relationships) and off the pitch (always have to start over again)

That's how players stagnate. These Chelsea lads are journeymen.

At some point you have to show the balls to trust youth and develop them yourself. People will hate it but look at Rashford. He may save them £millions because they gave him a shot.

Rashford played with some of the Chelsea boys for England youth like Solanke and Abraham. They were ahead of him. Look at him now....

Lucas Piazon was a world class talent but their youth system killed him.

But then again so was Pozo.

 

[oakiecokie]

Flapping that there's not enough players, then flapping about how much they cost when we get em,then flapping that its unfair on youngsters, then flapping for flappings sake..


Oh ffs.. have I missed owt ??

Its usually me who flaps about the flappers,so welcome aboard my flapper free friend.

 

[Blue Smarties]

I watch quite a lot of La Liga and his performances at Real Madrid would not make you want to sign him. He was awful to begin with, then became average towards the end.

This signing will presumably be based on his Porto days and the belief that he'll be much better here than at Real for whatever reasons - different league, different tactics, change of scenery, different coach etc.

So having said that it's really hard to judge the transfer.

That was my fear re: Real Madrid performances.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

he's never done anything to stand out as an attacking fullback

See, that's the part I can completely agree with and I suspect that's why we're going with someone else. I do, however, firmly believe he can more than hold his own defensively in a position we struggled for last season and he could have seen more game time then. But he didn't, for whatever reason, and now we've moved on. I can see both sides but I'm still disappointed and I can see why others are as frustrated as they are given the lack of academy products making the step up for us.