Alexis Sanchez

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We needed players to replace those out of contract or have left (you are likely to be in this position next year)
The academy lads in those positions aren't yet good enough to sustain a title challenge or win trophies

We didn't set the price
So what should we have done?
Bought ten bob players from League 1 or the Championship in the vague hope of digging up a diamond.
We didn't create the market, vastly overpaying for players started way before we got involved.
Hobsons choice I'm afraid
But hey lets blame city anyway.
How many times have we broken the transfer barrier by the way?
 
Robbiegunn said:
That constant claim that we're running the club the right way annoys Arsenal fans more than anything, as it's obvious they couldn't run a fucking egg and spoon race, let alone one of the worlds biggest football clubs.
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It's the media narrative though isn't it. If you asked the normal Talkshite listening, Sun reading football fan, they'd probably have Arsenal right up there with clubs that are run the right way. Just like the Rags and playing the 'Yoonited Way' - they've been playing shite football since GPC left, but it won't stop the media narrative though.

So, what is it Arsenal fans want? Would you prefer a change of owners of a change of manager? I know a change of owner may well lead to a change of manager, but if given the choice, which one is a higher priority for you - owner or manager?
 
Robbiegunn said:
You're likely failure to get Sanchez is kinda your own fault and that of clubs like PSG.

With the inflated transfer prices you and the others are paying the transfer markets been pushed to a crazy place where it's no longer viable to sell players like Sanchez for £50m as they are impossible to replace for that money. The same has happened with Keita at Leipzig.

No way would Wenger have not sold him to you if he thought he could replace him for the same kind of money. Alas, at the other end of the scale, it's sad for us, because the insane prices now mean Alexis could be the last truly world class player we see at the Emirates for a long time.
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We had to sign some quality fullbacks. It was the selling clubs who set the price. Levy has a lot to answer for ;-)
 
Robbiegunn said:
You're likely failure to get Sanchez is kinda your own fault and that of clubs like PSG.

With the inflated transfer prices you and the others are paying the transfer markets been pushed to a crazy place where it's no longer viable to sell players like Sanchez for £50m as they are impossible to replace for that money. The same has happened with Keita at Leipzig.

No way would Wenger have not sold him to you if he thought he could replace him for the same kind of money. Alas, at the other end of the scale, it's sad for us, because the insane prices now mean Alexis could be the last truly world class player we see at the Emirates for a long time.
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£50mil is a fair price for a player in the final year of his contract.

Its Arsenals fault that they are in this situation as the management are utterly incompetent when it comes to renewing contracts.

You appear to come across like you have won some form of moral high ground. You sell for the price teams are willing to pay or lose him for nothing. Well done!

Frankly, Id be embarrassed if my team repeatedly found themselves in this kind of situation. Dont understand the need to come and spout off on other clubs forum, especially when the window is open and literally anything can happen until it closes (see Neymar).
 
Kinkys Left Foot said:
We needed players to replace those out of contract or have left (you are likely to be in this position next year)
The academy lads in those positions aren't yet good enough to sustain a title challenge or win trophies

We didn't set the price
So what should we have done?
Bought ten bob players from League 1 or the Championship in the vague hope of digging up a diamond.
We didn't create the market, vastly overpaying for players started way before we got involved.
Hobsons choice I'm afraid
But hey lets blame city anyway.
How many times have we broken the transfer barrier by the way?
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Sorry, I didn't mean to specifically blame you, it's the whole system that's fucked.

Sanchez wants to leave. We should be able to replace him for similar quality for around the same price, maybe with a few quid on top. But no, we would have to double the fifty mill in order to do that, and we're still not guaranteed it because we're haven't got the lure of the champions league. It just makes more sense to keep him on his current wages for a year. What a player for £140k a week.
 
Robbiegunn said:
You're likely failure to get Sanchez is kinda your own fault and that of clubs like PSG.

With the inflated transfer prices you and the others are paying the transfer markets been pushed to a crazy place where it's no longer viable to sell players like Sanchez for £50m as they are impossible to replace for that money.
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Interesting that you think we set the prices. Not the selling club. It's funny watching Wenger and Klopp et al say prices have gone crazy, then ask for £100m for Coutinho and £60m for a player you let go into his last year....
 
Cityisland said:
£50mil is a fair price for a player in the final year of his contract.

Its Arsenals fault that they are in this situation as the management are utterly incompetent when it comes to renewing contracts.

You appear to come across like you have won some form of moral high ground. You sell for the price teams are willing to pay or lose him for nothing. Well done!

Frankly, Id be embarrassed if my team repeatedly found themselves in this kind of situation. Dont understand the need to come and spout off on other clubs forum, especially when the window is open and literally anything can happen until it closes (see Neymar).
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It might be a fair price, but we still couldn't replace him for that, that's my point.
 
Johnny_on said:
Interesting that you think we set the prices. Not the selling club. It's funny watching Wenger and Klopp et al say prices have gone crazy, then ask for £100m for Coutinho and £60m for a player you let go into his last year....
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Spot on. A good example is that Dortmund today indicates to be willing to discuss selling Dembele for a price of 100 million. Why are the selling clubs never mentioned as being unethical?
 
Our team in my opinion won't look to far from this.

......................Ederson
Walker.....Kompany......Otamendi.....Mendy
......................Dinho
.......Bernardo.......Silva.............KdB
............Jesus...............Kun

Bench

Stones, Sane, Sterling, Yaya, Gundongan, Danilo, Bravo

The idea that we can buy Sanchez and Mbappe is frankly absurd. Jesus and Kun to join the already ridiculous bench. No way.

Even one of them means that Kun wold probably have to be benched.
 
Cityisland said:
£50mil is a fair price for a player in the final year of his contract.

Its Arsenals fault that they are in this situation as the management are utterly incompetent when it comes to renewing contracts.

You appear to come across like you have won some form of moral high ground. You sell for the price teams are willing to pay or lose him for nothing. Well done!

Frankly, Id be embarrassed if my team repeatedly found themselves in this kind of situation. Dont understand the need to come and spout off on other clubs forum, especially when the window is open and literally anything can happen until it closes (see Neymar).
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I disagree with this. Arsenal are determined to run their club as a successful business at all costs and this removes any ambition they might have had. Players know this and therefore the best players will vote with their feet... Money is not the biggest motivator for them, they have that already and that's why they don't extend contracts IMHO
 
Robbiegunn said:
It might be a fair price, but we still couldn't replace him for that, that's my point.
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That's because most top players around Europe are not in the the final year of the contract - The Sanchez situation is of Arsenal's own making. You should look closer to home if you are looking to blame people
 
robbieh said:
Our team in my opinion won't look to far from this.

......................Ederson
Walker.....Kompany......Otamendi.....Mendy
......................Dinho
.......Bernardo.......Silva.............KdB
............Jesus...............Kun

Bench

Stones, Sane, Sterling, Yaya, Gundongan, Danilo, Bravo

The idea that we can buy Sanchez and Mbappe is frankly absurd. Jesus and Kun to join the already ridiculous bench. No way.

Even one of them means that Kun wold probably have to be benched.
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Rotation.
 
Robbiegunn said:
You're likely failure to get Sanchez is kinda your own fault and that of clubs like PSG.

With the inflated transfer prices you and the others are paying the transfer markets been pushed to a crazy place where it's no longer viable to sell players like Sanchez for £50m as they are impossible to replace for that money. The same has happened with Keita at Leipzig.

No way would Wenger have not sold him to you if he thought he could replace him for the same kind of money. Alas, at the other end of the scale, it's sad for us, because the insane prices now mean Alexis could be the last truly world class player we see at the Emirates for a long time.
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Fault doesn't come into it. Actually, as cash is the resource we have over and above anything else, it's in our best interests for the market to be super inflated. It reduces competition for even the very best players to about half a dozen clubs who can afford it and we're one of them.

Don't kid yourself that it's not viable to sell Sanchez for £50m with a year left on his contract. The price may have gone up slightly after Neymar but you won't get much more than £60m and as I said above, it won't be an auction, we're probably the only ones who will pay it. I'm yet to be convinced that your club will give that money up, even if it doesn't cover the value of a replacement.
 
robbieh said:
Our team in my opinion won't look to far from this.

......................Ederson
Walker.....Kompany......Otamendi.....Mendy
......................Dinho
.......Bernardo.......Silva.............KdB
............Jesus...............Kun

Bench

Stones, Sane, Sterling, Yaya, Gundongan, Danilo, Bravo

The idea that we can buy Sanchez and Mbappe is frankly absurd. Jesus and Kun to join the already ridiculous bench. No way.

Even one of them means that Kun wold probably have to be benched.
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Hahaha what a bench.
 
robbieh said:
Our team in my opinion won't look to far from this.

......................Ederson
Walker.....Kompany......Otamendi.....Mendy
......................Dinho
.......Bernardo.......Silva.............KdB
............Jesus...............Kun

Bench

Stones, Sane, Sterling, Yaya, Gundongan, Danilo, Bravo

The idea that we can buy Sanchez and Mbappe is frankly absurd. Jesus and Kun to join the already ridiculous bench. No way.

Even one of them means that Kun wold probably have to be benched.
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Its still only two players who are genuine goal scorers. IF Sterling and Sane significantly up their goal output then we should be fine, if they don't we're praying that Aguero and Jesus stay fit and are not worked to death.
 
robbieh said:
Our team in my opinion won't look to far from this.

......................Ederson
Walker.....Kompany......Otamendi.....Mendy
......................Dinho
.......Bernardo.......Silva.............KdB
............Jesus...............Kun

Bench

Stones, Sane, Sterling, Yaya, Gundongan, Danilo, Bravo

The idea that we can buy Sanchez and Mbappe is frankly absurd. Jesus and Kun to join the already ridiculous bench. No way.

Even one of them means that Kun wold probably have to be benched.
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It is a strong squad for sure, but our only 2 outright goalscorers are in your starting 11, and we have no direct backup for these positions, so for me it illustrates why we are after Sanchez and/or Mbappe.
 
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