Article 50/Brexit Negotiations

[vonkeynotvenky]

I'm perplexed why he's that bothered about it all, Ireland is still in the EU.

It has got to be about money and his ability to grub more of it, it can't be about anything else he's a parasite and a snake in the grass. He's so socially unaware he hires a huge play boat to sneer at fishermen and he thought that people out of his echo chamber would support him.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

As we're posting pics of failed remainers, anyone remember this very short lived MP? This one wanted a re-run...

Last time I saw a mouth like that is was losing by a short head at Haydock park.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

As we're posting pics of failed remainers, anyone remember this very short lived MP? This one wanted a re-run...

Last time I saw a mouth like that is was losing by a short head at Haydock park.

She was a first time MP in a very posh seat wasn't she?

Anyway here's the wonderfully pickled and terminally confused Anna Soubry with Sir Nigel :)

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Yeah, Richmond, Zak Goldsmith lost it in a by-election, then won it back at the General Election, she wasn't in the job
long enough to demand any referendum re-runs. Hailed by Tim the resigner Farron and gargoyle Vince Cable as the catalyst to
overturn it.

 

[Vic]

So the leavers, having run out of reasons why it was a good idea, resort to photos in a "You lost, get over it" contest.

Daftest of all is wondering why an Irishman would be bothered by Brexit. Just reinforcing the "the uninformed won it" argument.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

So the leavers, having run out of reasons why it was a good idea, resort to photos in a "You lost, get over it" contest.

Daftest of all is wondering why an Irishman would be bothered by Brexit. Just reinforcing the "the uninformed won it" argument.

No that isn't it at all, we are just blowing smoke up the arsed of the echo chamber dwellers who forever more will lament the result of the vote with reflections on the "Cliff edge" "Punishment budget" "Racists did it" "Stupid people did it" so this is for you.

 

[smudgedj]

You don't half go on don't you? Move to France, tear your passport up and enjoy your life as a foreigner on distant shores instead of weeping every day. How many times in one day to you mention Trump and Brexit :)

You'd think they would take advantage of freedom of movement whilst they still have it. They will do anything for europe except fuck off and live there for a couple of years and take nationality.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

You'd think they would take advantage of freedom of movement whilst they still have it. They will do anything for europe except fuck off and live there for a couple of years and take nationality.

The poor working class have been marginalised by those who are doing better and yet it's those who are doing better who use phrases like "Race to the bottom" when it comes to wages if poor working class people don't support their unions and strikes. And now those people who are doing better are another level of poor worker haters who have been told to stuff it by the poor electorate.
This election wasn't about their pensions, it wasn't about how easily they can move from one EU compound to another because poor working class people don't have expensive first world worries like that, they haven't got time to play identity politics or wonder whether or not Marx or Engles were twats or a working mans heros , so this whole anti Brexit movement (And it's tiny in reality) is all about people not caring about the poor working class, just their own nests and pensions, the real working class said fuck 'em.

 

[smudgedj]

The poor working class have been marginalised by those who are doing better and yet it's those who are doing better who use phrases like "Race to the bottom" when it comes to wages if poor working class people don't support their unions and strikes. And now those people who are doing better are another level of poor worker haters who have been told to stuff it by the poor electorate.
This election wasn't about their pensions, it wasn't about how easily they can move from one EU compound to another because poor working class people don't have expensive first world worries like that, they haven't got time to play identity politics or wonder whether or not Marx or Engles were twats or a working mans heros , so this whole anti Brexit movement (And it's tiny in reality) is all about people not caring about the poor working class, just their own nests and pensions, the real working class said fuck 'em.

This is it. Mass migration of cheap foreign labour makes the poor people poorer. Some people get it; Corbyn, Galloway, John Mann, Kate Hoey and Gisela Stuart. Cameron, Osborne, Blair and Mandelson, the Kinnocks, the middle class lefties on here; not so much.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The poor working class have been marginalised by those who are doing better and yet it's those who are doing better who use phrases like "Race to the bottom" when it comes to wages if poor working class people don't support their unions and strikes. And now those people who are doing better are another level of poor worker haters who have been told to stuff it by the poor electorate.
This election wasn't about their pensions, it wasn't about how easily they can move from one EU compound to another because poor working class people don't have expensive first world worries like that, they haven't got time to play identity politics or wonder whether or not Marx or Engles were twats or a working mans heros , so this whole anti Brexit movement (And it's tiny in reality) is all about people not caring about the poor working class, just their own nests and pensions, the real working class said fuck 'em.

You have a mouth which is proportionally much bigger than your brain, I'm afraid. People like you caused this mess with your ignorance.

The working class were split down the middle with this referendum. Read that again. And again if it hasn't sunk in. Go and research that fact if you don't believe me and if you know what that word means. Research is good. Bullshit is bad.

The only significant difference in demographics between the in/out camps was intelligence and education. Research that one too if you want.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

You have a mouth which is proportionally much bigger than your brain, I'm afraid. People like you caused this mess with your ignorance.

The working class were split down the middle with this referendum. Read that again. And again if it hasn't sunk in. Go and research that fact if you don't believe me and if you know what that word means. Research is good. Bullshit is bad.

The only significant difference in demographics between the in/out camps was intelligence and education. Research that one too if you want.

Insults wont make your argument better, just take note of the result and leave the stats in the bin where they belong. And people like me are in the majority, I don't need to insult you because my point was made last year.

 

[crazyg]

Insults wont make your argument better, just take note of the result and leave the stats in the bin where they belong. And people like me are in the majority, I don't need to insult you because my point was made last year.

In other words: We won, get over it.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

In other words: We won, get over it.

Maybe debate how the extrusion can be done better yes, but stop insulting the people who voted to leave with the racist, xenophobic, stupid tags. Terms like hard Brexit and Tory Brexit mixed with Brexshit are just lazy sloganising devoid of any sense whatsoever mate.

 

[Metal Biker]

So, one year on and still insults of 'poor and stupid' are being used to devalue a decision taken by one side of the debate.

I understand and accept the reason why people wanted to remain, I simply didn't share or resonate with their concerns. Can any of the more vociferous EU defenders care to say what measures they've taken or questions they've asked that led them to understand and accept the reasons why people voted to leave without resorting to 'poor and stupid' rhetoric?

(£10 bet on "racist")

 

[smudgedj]

You have a mouth which is proportionally much bigger than your brain, I'm afraid. People like you caused this mess with your ignorance.

The working class were split down the middle with this referendum. Read that again. And again if it hasn't sunk in. Go and research that fact if you don't believe me and if you know what that word means. Research is good. Bullshit is bad.

The only significant difference in demographics between the in/out camps was intelligence and education. Research that one too if you want.

Lets have a look then
The poorer C2DE category (Skilled manual occupations, Semi-skilled & unskilled manual occupations, Unemployed and lowest grade occupations) was almost two-thirds in favour of quitting, voting Out by 64% to 36%, according to You Guv.
So not exactly down the middle where the working class is concerned is it.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Lets have a look then
The poorer C2DE category (Skilled manual occupations, Semi-skilled & unskilled manual occupations, Unemployed and lowest grade occupations) was almost two-thirds in favour of quitting, voting Out by 64% to 36%, according to You Guv.
So not exactly down the middle where the working class is concerned is it.

Well slap my backside with a wet fucking banana because it was 60/40.

Jesus wept.

 

[JWBlueman]

Well slap my backside with a wet fucking banana because it was 60/40.

Jesus wept.

I would happily do so but all of ours are sadly not straight enough. Or is that cucumbers..?

 

[smudgedj]

Well slap my backside with a wet fucking banana because it was 60/40.

Jesus wept.

The working class were split down the middle with this referendum. Read that again. And again if it hasn't sunk in. Go and research that fact if you don't believe me and if you know what that word means. Research is good. Bullshit is bad.

Erm 64-36 isn't 60-40. Same as 48 doesn't beat 52.
Anyway it still wasn't down the middle then.
Bullshit is still bad yeah?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Erm 64-36 isn't 60-40. Same as 48 doesn't beat 52.
Anyway it still wasn't down the middle then.
Bullshit is still bad yeah?

Is it actually possible to have a discussion on here without some clown reducing it to some ridiculous fucking straw man "argument"?

 

[hilts]

Erm 64-36 isn't 60-40. Same as 48 doesn't beat 52.
Anyway it still wasn't down the middle then.
Bullshit is still bad yeah?

He claimed roughly 50/50 you said it was 64-36 so he tried to snip a bit off to make himself not look as daft, especially after blabbing off about research. Did someone say the remainers were the intelligent ones?

Haha quality.