City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Prestwich_Blue said:
Might be concerts, other events or some commercial income. Plus we did the trip to China, which may have brought in revenue. But it's unlikely revenue would be at the same level as it would during an average month during the season.
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Wouldn't the extra month be June 2017 though? IIRC we went to the US in July.
 
If this does come to pass, does it not give the elite (arguably all) players even more bargaining power?

Knowing full well that clubs will only have a £90m transfer deficit to deal with, they purposely run their contracts down; the buying club get a lower or "free" deal and the player can name his price.

Or does the deficit include wages as well?
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Nothing's been decided yet, so it's probably open for negotiation.
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You think? It's already decided behind closed doors - the only thing that can stop it is the smaller clubs - who will get hammered financially as their business models of "buy cheap sell high" will be totally destroyed. They just gift their players to the elite as their player contracts run out.
 
I await to see how the elite intend to bounce the smallsr clubs into this. Surely even Turrkeys will be able to see this one coming.
 
BlueAnorak said:
I await to see how the elite intend to bounce the smallsr clubs into this. Surely even Turrkeys will be able to see this one coming.
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They have voted for Christmas twice so expect a third time. As said by another poster,this is already done and the vote in May is a formality.
 
willipp said:
The irony of the thick fuckers over on rag cafe. This one particularly made me laugh

'None of this matters much. City's success now is built on building a club whose identity was to copy Barcelona in every way. Once pep gets bored and leaves they don't have a clear direction any longer and they will struggle to make an impact as they have done for years until now. They'll push their wage cap higher and fees bigger'

Replace 'Pep' with 'gpc' and they have perfectly described their own club.
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It really doesn't affect us that much - now we're already in the Golden Trough. Especially if we sign 3 or 4 deals now before this is rubber stamped.
 
There has to be somthing on limiting TV money spend for this to really affect us. There will be ways round accademy player stuff.
 
So what will the limitation of transfer expenses really do?

1. There will be players who can not change clubs anymore, because they will cost more than 100 million.
2. Wages will go up, as it will be the way for the big clubs to attract the best players.

It looks to me like the best players will still end up at the biggest clubs, and it will be even more difficult for smaller clubs to grow bigger. All in all nothing new it seems.
 
All this FFP boils down to is the fact that MCFC have now broken into the so called big 4 clubs in England of Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and the rags. Now that it looks like we are here to stay, the big 4 + UEFA. are trying every under handed means to break us down, so that we will go away and not bother them ever again. It is because we are standing up to them that they are trying all the under handed measures they can think off. So I say let's go and win every trophy available this year and ram it right down their bloody throats.
 
domalino said:
Martin Samuel's more likely to be just offering his own opinion than reporting from inside knowledge, but it wouldn't be that surprising.

FFP 2.0 will cement our place among the top of European football - any form of FFP will maintain the status quo and our status quo is at the top of the table. Once this Pep side is fully built, which should be by September, we've got nothing to fear from FFP.
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We won't get anywhere near having a fully stocked squad until season 2019-2020 imo, & that's when I've always said Pep should be truly judged. Anything in the meantime for me is a bonus.

I think we need a minimum of 6 players to complete our squad & with £50m being the new £20m, we can't possibly hope to achieve it from one season's turnover alone.

We knew this FFP 2.0 was coming after Neymar's transfer to PSG. This is the first time the elite have had a genuine star player taken from them in his prime, & it's obvious they weren't gonna allow it to happen again.

This is why I think our concentration is on completing our squad, with the added sprinkling of gold dust being left until this phase of our rebuilding is complete. It's the most logical plan & will leave us with a solid base for years to come.

If this version of FFP does go through, we'll be collateral damage as UEFA go after PSG. But I have a bad feeling that UEFA won't stop there. Plans for a limit of players being loaned out by clubs are apparently under consideration, & you can sure bet they'll be looking at City's football group structure.

We've been here before & should prepare ourselves for the worst & hope for the best, which is why we're getting some of our prime targets in now as opposed to in the summer.

Everyone will be pre-occupied with the World Cup, which is when UEFA will be trying to fly in FFP 2.0 under the radar.
 
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Am I right in saying that if we spend £200m in one window we have to generate £110m of sales or we won't comply? If we sell a player for £150m we can then spend up to £230m is that right?
 
Eds said:
Am I right in saying that if we spend £200m in one window we have to generate £110m of sales or we won't comply? If we sell a player for £150m we can then spend up to £230m is that right?
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Yeah think they saying 90m net but how we going to sell a player for 150m when that club can’t spend more than 90m net? It will mean that club will have to sell first as well it’s a shambles.
 
Can someone explain the new rules to me? I did not really understand, can we spend 100 million? Expenses minus income equals 100m max(on transfers) ?
 
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