United thread 2017/18

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The perfect fumble said:
Spot on. There are no disciples of the Ferguson way for a reason.

Ferguson was outstandingly successful but no revolutionary, 1-0 victories were his hallmark, after squeaky bum time and a little bit of Fergie time. When he came up against a real visionary like Pep he had his arse handed to him.

Ferguson was just the biggest dinosaur in the age of dinosaurs.
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Although spawned many a dinosaur in his own likeness Bruce, Robson, McClaren, Allardyce, Pulis, Moyes, Fergie junior et al
He spawned no-one successful as his success was not based on a footballing philosophy, more a culture of single mindedness, bullying and coercion
 
nellyonthewing said:
I see BBC have a new rag (Steve Wilson) in their pursuit of Rag Domination.
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/stevewilson/2011/12/anfield.html
Steve Wilson | 16:43 UK time, Tuesday, 6 December 2011. I'll be at .... This was the time when i 'hated' liverpool fc as they won everything and united nothing.

You could hear the raggish desperation in his commentary yesterday as his darlings huffed and puffed in vain. Give my Licence fee back Twats.
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That's a comment below the line from someone else.
 
squirtyflower said:
Having watched that I almost feel sorry for Mouriniho
He's been held up as the anti-Christ to some forgotten time of swashbuckling Manchester United era that is, in reality, only a myth in the eyes of the media. And that same media that have built this myth of the all conquering fantastic football are now crucifying him for not delivering the impossible dream.
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Agreed. The rags haven't had a great attacking team for 10 years. Their last title-winning team under Ferguson was one of the most boring champions in PL history.
 
squirtyflower said:
Although spawned many a dinosaur in his own likeness Bruce, Robson, McClaren, Allardyce, Pulis, Moyes, Fergie junior et al
He spawned no-one successful as his success was not based on a footballing philosophy, more a culture of single mindedness, bullying and coercion
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Yeah, the kick em up the arse and tell them to f**king score a goal school of management.
 
oakiecokie said:
Fergie also knew that City were not just there to make the numbers up in the PL.He shit himself,when he realised that we would be bigger of the two Manchester (for want of a better word) clubs and retirement was his only way out to save any embarrassment.
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The single determining factor in his success was timing. He was there at the beginning of the sky money juggernaut with noone really to challenge him regularly, and he got out just as Mansour's dynasty was going to change everything forever in the prem.

I actually think he wasn't as dominant as he should have been with the resources at his disposal and the competition he faced. His record in Europe reflects that and in fairness he admits it. 2 injury time goals and a win on penalties is a poor return for a team that dominated in England for 2 decades.
 
Great attacking team my arse. It's only because other teams had fuck all to spend and taggart could waste millions on veron who was a great footballer but didn't fit in with taggart's get it wide to beckham's mantra and punting it in.
 
squirtyflower said:
Although spawned many a dinosaur in his own likeness Bruce, Robson, McClaren, Allardyce, Pulis, Moyes, Fergie junior et al
He spawned no-one successful as his success was not based on a footballing philosophy, more a culture of single mindedness, bullying and coercion
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I agree. He spawned no one successful because iron-fisted autocrats aren’t interested in what came before nor after them. It’s one reason they accomplish radical change at the outset of their tenures so successfully, once they have — as he put it himself — “complete control.” Their legacy is what THEY accomplish under THEIR watch. Spawning protégés — or any success without themselves at the helm of their own or other organizations — is never a focus.
 
I know it's old news, but still funny:

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho has deleted his Instagram account over abuse he has received following the Red Devils' FA Cup final loss. (Sun)
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Agreed. The rags haven't had a great attacking team for 10 years. Their last title-winning team under Ferguson was one of the most boring champions in PL history.
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Once they sold Ronaldo all the attaching instincts went out of the window and they became much more pragmatic, the ‘Yoonitey way’ Like much associated with that rancid club is a myth.
 
squirtyflower said:
Although spawned many a dinosaur in his own likeness Bruce, Robson, McClaren, Allardyce, Pulis, Moyes, Fergie junior et al
He spawned no-one successful as his success was not based on a footballing philosophy, more a culture of single mindedness, bullying and coercion
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And the money. Never forget the money.
 
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