World Cup VAR

[peter.evans]

They are already picking and choosing which decisions they look at.

It's fucking bollocks.

Sums the thing up. An absolute shambles of a system unless it' s for offside and where incidents took place. Subjective can never work !

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

Teething pains. It'll get there and the game will be much better for it.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Its a mess.

 

[chaddblue]

Ref's will be accused of bias and of 'being bent' even more with this. It's bad enough not giving blatant pens like that... but its criminal then refusing to even take another look

 

[moomba]

I don't think it was a penalty but the fact the ref can pick and choose when VAR is used worries me.

He should have stopped play and asked the question.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Teething pains. It'll get there and the game will be much better for it.

They need specific criteria to decide what constitutes a foul and then STICK TO THOSE FUCKING RULES, not change the interpretation from one instance to the next.

If Ronaldo's last night is a foul, they ALL have to be, it's that fucking simple, bit these people can't be trusted to do it.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Ref's will be accused of bias and of 'being bent' even more with this. It's bad enough not giving blatant pens like that... but its criminal then refusing to even take another look

Yep. I fully appreciate that I am paranoid. But I fear in the prem that instead of being a tool to help refs it will be one to help them shaft us with.

 

[foxbox123]

I don't think it was a penalty but the fact the ref can pick and choose when VAR is used worries me.

He should have stopped play and asked the question.

People seem to have the wrong idea of how VAR works. The ref doesn't decide when VAR is used, he is told by the VAR officials if he has made a mistake. If they agree with his decision on the pitch the game carries on.

The Ref can at no point stop the game and ask to watch a replay.

 

[moomba]

People seem to have the wrong idea of how VAR works. The ref doesn't decide when VAR is used, he is told by the VAR officials if he has made a mistake. If they agree with his decision on the pitch the game carries on.

The Ref can at no point stop the game and ask to watch a replay.

That's just stupid then. He should be able to refer.

 

[OB1]

Not an auspicious start.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

People seem to have the wrong idea of how VAR works. The ref doesn't decide when VAR is used, he is told by the VAR officials if he has made a mistake. If they agree with his decision on the pitch the game carries on.

The Ref can at no point stop the game and ask to watch a replay.

But he did make a mistake and they didn't bother telling him ?

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Would have thought the VAR would tell the ref to take a look at that. Maybe they thought the first one was soft and wanted to even it up? Either way, really poor...

But mistakes will still happen with VAR. Just a lot less often. It's brand new. Don't need to panic, it works just fine. Now the refs need to do better.

 

[SWP's back]

The Ref can at no point stop the game and ask to watch a replay.

Not true. He can ask if any decision is worth a review.

 

[chaddblue]

People seem to have the wrong idea of how VAR works. The ref doesn't decide when VAR is used, he is told by the VAR officials if he has made a mistake. If they agree with his decision on the pitch the game carries on.

The Ref can at no point stop the game and ask to watch a replay.

So we've got un-named faceless people in a studio somewhere, deciding which incidents to look back at. There'll be no comeback on them at all unlike the ref who gets abused by 50,000 people

It'll be interesting to see if (when) 'certain teams' get far more incidents reviewed and overturned than other teams. It just opens another can of worms

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Not true. He can ask if any decision is worth a review.

Is that right ? If so I have no idea why as a ref you wouldn't almost automatically refer that penalty shout. Even if you think the guys dived, check it, if he has dived book him, if its a pen give it. Makes your life easier.

 

[foxbox123]

Not true. He can ask if any decision is worth a review.

You can't review "any decision"

 

[cleavers]

People seem to have the wrong idea of how VAR works. The ref doesn't decide when VAR is used, he is told by the VAR officials if he has made a mistake. If they agree with his decision on the pitch the game carries on.

The Ref can at no point stop the game and ask to watch a replay.

It'll never work, if its not fully transparent what is going on.

That's just stupid then. He should be able to refer.

I'm not sure he needs to refer things, but the game can stop until its been reviewed, in that one case the ball had gone out of play for a corner anyway, so it should have been looked at, the time taken wouldn't matter.

When the VAR officials and/or the referee can decide what will be looked at, and it all be done without the paying audience knowing, it won't solve any problems, its either used on all occasions, or none for me, and it should be shown to the paying fan in the stadium.

 

[foxbox123]

But he did make a mistake and they didn't bother telling him ?

Did he make an "obvious error" though. I've seen plenty of people saying it wasn't a pen. This is the issue with VAR, it will always be at the mercy of interpretation.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

That's just stupid then. He should be able to refer.

People seem to have the wrong idea of how VAR works. The ref doesn't decide when VAR is used, he is told by the VAR officials if he has made a mistake. If they agree with his decision on the pitch the game carries on.

The Ref can at no point stop the game and ask to watch a replay.

If that it true then even more liable to corruption because anonymous individuals can influence results? The process is not clear to me or the commentators.

 

[waspish]

So those against Var want more wrong decisions than right but when a referee doesn’t use Var when you don’t want Var you moan var isn’t being used.