This Cesspit of a City

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toffee balls said:
Nowt stranger than folk.

The IRA bomb changed the dynamic of our town planning and gave us a rare opportunity to start a large part of the redevelopment in one hit.
Since then , the progress the City has made is staggering.

Go into Manchester at a weekend and you will meet loads of tourists.
Salford Quays , Spinningfields , Northern Quarter, Sportcity ,Printworks , Cathedral Walks , Metrolink and now the mini NYC developments.

Took two London based clients for a couple of drinks to 20 stories a few weeks back.
They were quite simply gobsmacked.

London is in a league of its own.
Manchester is without any doubt the best of the rest.

I could not be prouder of my city.

And as shown to the rest of the watching world in the aftermath of yet another senseless outrage , the very best thing about it are it’s people from all races and religions who make it great.
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There is a bit of a difference between sitting in the latest swanky bar on £15 cocktails to the shit and piss strewn side streets of Piccadilly that I have to walk on every day. I assume you didn't take them that way - they would have been gobsmacked at these sights too!
 
Getting train back home to town now. I feel at home there, I certainly get some form of comfort being back in Manchester.

Burnham or whatever your name is, get some sodding pavement scrubbers on picc approach.
 
Danny Hoekman said:
There is a bit of a difference between sitting in the latest swanky bar on £15 cocktails to the shit and piss strewn side streets of Piccadilly that I have to walk on every day. I assume you didn't take them that way - they would have been gobsmacked at these sights too!
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Welcome to the world.
I can show you shitholes in London and New York.
 
bugsyblue said:
Great post. Manchester before the IRA bomb was pretty much a shit hole! The city I grew up in as a kid was very different to the one I see now when I come back to visit.

The thing I miss most about Manchester though is the people and spirit of the city. Post terrorist tragedy is probably the best example of how Manchester has terrific soul, tenacity, love and diversity. The way people came together was beautiful and it is rare.
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Manchester was great for clubbing always
 
mancityvstoke said:
yeah scrapping on the all night bus........ahh the memories
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The last 92 was never without incident, full on brawls with chips & gravy flying everywhere most Saturday nights, you needed some stamina to get right through to Hazel Grove.
 
It depends how you look at it. If you're well off and happy to step over the beggars on your way to the flashy new restaurant that costs £££££s to sit down, then yeah, I can see how you might think that today's Manchester is an agreeable place. Superficially at least, it's a booming city. Some people are doing very nicely out of it.

On the other hand, it's lost its soul. The Manchester I knew and loved is dead. Eventually it will just be a mass of concrete blocks, and a few wind-swept "public spaces" that will be monetised as soon as someone figures out how. And everywhere will still be covered in litter and chewing gum, because no one gives a shite.

Enjoy the Circus (and similar unique pubs) while you may, because the writing is on the wall.
 
The social cohesion in London is abhorrent. People are insular and they don’t want to know. I stopped off in Bethnal Green yesterday to watch Sheffield Utd v Swansea and nobody in the pub spoke to me.

I even tried to make small talk with the barmaid and someone at the bar on their own but they don’t seem interested. Manchester and Wales (my other bases) are nothing like that. You’d make a friend.
 
peoffrey said:
The social cohesion in London is abhorrent. People are insular and they don’t want to know. I stopped off in Bethnal Green yesterday to watch Sheffield Utd v Swansea and nobody in the pub spoke to me.

I even tried to make small talk with the barmaid and someone at the bar on their own but they don’t seem interested. Manchester and Wales (my other bases) are nothing like that. You’d make a friend.
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I wouldnt speak to you either mate :)

Seriously, if the place is full of piss & litter, you have an army of workshy lazy fit young men being paid to do nothing, get them to earn their keep.
 
nimrod said:
I wouldnt speak to you either mate :)

Seriously, if the place is full of piss & litter, you have an army of workshy lazy fit young men being paid to do nothing, get them to earn their keep.
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Workshy county workers in England.......you must be joking?
 
idahoblues said:
Workshy county workers in England.......you must be joking?
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Tbf that tired arguement always dies a death, as if you did get these people doing street cleaning jobs then technically they are a paid workforce, so entiled to the minimum wage which would be a drain on local goverent and therefore lead to job cuts of said services.

A viscous circle, as some businesses found out when this was tried and the general public felt they should be paid faily for their work not the dole of £40 or whatever it is

But then we could make prisoners do it, you know like a chain gang maybe
 
urban genie said:
Tbf that tired arguement always dies a death, as if you did get these people doing street cleaning jobs then technically they are a paid workforce, so entiled to the minimum wage which would be a drain on local goverent and therefore lead to job cuts of said services.

A viscous circle, as some businesses found out when this was tried and the general public felt they should be paid faily for their work not the dole of £40 or whatever it is

But then we could make prisoners do it, you know like a chain gang maybe
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Relax mate, it was said tongue in cheek from one ex patcunt to another........like the chain gang idea
 
urban genie said:
Tbf that tired arguement always dies a death, as if you did get these people doing street cleaning jobs then technically they are a paid workforce, so entiled to the minimum wage which would be a drain on local goverent and therefore lead to job cuts of said services.

A viscous circle, as some businesses found out when this was tried and the general public felt they should be paid faily for their work not the dole of £40 or whatever it is

But then we could make prisoners do it, you know like a chain gang maybe
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Haha chain gang
Thats whats wrong with Britain, suggest some lazy **** who's been claiming dole for 3 years does a couple of days work and you get the victim shit thrown at you.
 
idahoblues said:
Relax mate, it was said tongue in cheek from one ex patcunt to another........like the chain gang idea
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Was just pointing out it has been tried before and it caused a public backlash over fair pay

Wasn't being entirely serious myself with the chain gang bit


nimrod said:
Haha chain gang
Thats whats wrong with Britain, suggest some lazy **** who's been claiming dole for 3 years does a couple of days work and you get the victim shit thrown at you.
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Shame we don't have some big fucking Island we could transport them all over to anymore ;-)
 
urban genie said:
Tbf that tired arguement always dies a death, as if you did get these people doing street cleaning jobs then technically they are a paid workforce, so entiled to the minimum wage which would be a drain on local goverent and therefore lead to job cuts of said services.

A viscous circle, as some businesses found out when this was tried and the general public felt they should be paid faily for their work not the dole of £40 or whatever it is

But then we could make prisoners do it, you know like a chain gang maybe
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Not prisoners but convicted felons instead of prison and make them do it at weekends.
 
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