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I was in the pub earlier and a friend of mine hobbled up to the bar with his leg in a cast, asked for a beer and a shot but it had to be down low as his brother in law and family were there and were 'very religious' and could never handle seeing him drink alcohol. This guy is a doctor and has two children with the guy's sister, yet still fears upsetting this pious **** sat outside because he's very religious.
I personally would have taken great pleasure in sitting in front of him in a licensed restaurant and made him suck it up and realise that his shitty view of the world doesn't effect me or anyone else other than him.

There, off my chest
 
Yeah I’d certainly not be modifying my behaviour to appease someone’s religious belief in a licensed pub.

Just hope the god botherers were eating kosher.
 
SWP's back said:
Yeah I’d certainly not be modifying my behaviour to appease someone’s religious belief in a licensed pub.

Just hope the god botherers were eating kosher.
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Most 'god botherers' would be quite tolerant of other people's views and personal beliefs. Some people are very quick to criticise, yet they themselves display a level of prejudice and intolerance.
 
The source of all the world's problems! Show me an ongoing battle were religion not a part of it!
 
Eli Panic said:
Most 'god botherers' would be quite tolerant of other people's views and personal beliefs. Some people are very quick to criticise, yet they themselves display a level of prejudice and intolerance.
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Possibly.

I’d go with most ‘god botherers’ are very intolerant of when their OWN peoples views and personal views change. They are very quick to criticise, yet they themselves profess to display a level of non-prejudice and tolerance.

Ie
If you continue to do as everyone else in that particular religious group does, you’re fine, try to leave or change to another religious (or ‘worse’, atheistic) group , then you are to varying degrees shunned, expelled, attacked or killed.
 
lloydy said:
The source of all the world's problems!
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For a minute I thought you meant alcohol ;)

Then again booze does cause plenty of problems and many deaths, pissed up fights in Town & City centres on Friday nights, many a life has been ruined and even lost

Anyway I found this list of wars where Religion wasnt the cause.

  • War in Iraq 2
  • War in Afghanistan
  • African wars in the Congo (DRC)
  • Genocide in Rwanda
  • War in Iraq 1
  • Iraq/Iran war
  • All those civil wars in Latin America in the 70s and 80s
  • Civil war / genocide in Cambodia
  • China-Vietnam war
  • USA/France-Vietnam war
  • Korean war
  • Chinese civil war(s)
  • World War 2
  • Japanese invasion of China
  • Russian revolution (and related wars)
  • World War 1
  • Scramble for Africa
  • Franco-Prussian war
  • Crimean war
  • Taiping rebellion (Chinese civil war — although the main protagonist had crazy religious visions)
  • US Civil War
  • War of 1812 (and all the US wars of that time)
  • Opium wars
  • Napoleonic wars
  • Wars of the French revolution
  • Prussia’s wars of expansion (Silesia, etc. — Friedrich the Great)
  • Ottomans’ wars of expansion
  • Aztecs’ wars of expansion
  • Wars of the Roses
  • Ghenghis Khan’s invasions (and those of his descendants)
  • 100-year war
  • Viking ‘raids’
  • An Lushan ‘Rebellion’
  • Nomadic tribes’ wars against Rome, China, Central Asia
  • Roman wars of expansion and extermination
  • Asoka’s (and others’) wars of domination on the Indian subcontinent (though Asoka apparently had a religion inspired change of mind about all this killing)
  • Alexander the Great’s campaigns (although he started to think of himself as a God)
  • Chinese warring states period(s)
  • Persian-Greek war (although the Persians did have some religious justifications)
  • Egyptian wars and wars of Mesopotamian states (covering several thousand years with the proviso that Gods went hand in hand with all this)
 
nimrod said:
For a minute I thought you meant alcohol ;)

Then again booze does cause plenty of problems and many deaths, pissed up fights in Town & City centres on Friday nights, many a life has been ruined and even lost

Anyway I found this list of wars where Religion wasnt the cause.

  • War in Iraq 2
  • War in Afghanistan
  • African wars in the Congo (DRC)
  • Genocide in Rwanda
  • War in Iraq 1
  • Iraq/Iran war
  • All those civil wars in Latin America in the 70s and 80s
  • Civil war / genocide in Cambodia
  • China-Vietnam war
  • USA/France-Vietnam war
  • Korean war
  • Chinese civil war(s)
  • World War 2
  • Japanese invasion of China
  • Russian revolution (and related wars)
  • World War 1
  • Scramble for Africa
  • Franco-Prussian war
  • Crimean war
  • Taiping rebellion (Chinese civil war — although the main protagonist had crazy religious visions)
  • US Civil War
  • War of 1812 (and all the US wars of that time)
  • Opium wars
  • Napoleonic wars
  • Wars of the French revolution
  • Prussia’s wars of expansion (Silesia, etc. — Friedrich the Great)
  • Ottomans’ wars of expansion
  • Aztecs’ wars of expansion
  • Wars of the Roses
  • Ghenghis Khan’s invasions (and those of his descendants)
  • 100-year war
  • Viking ‘raids’
  • An Lushan ‘Rebellion’
  • Nomadic tribes’ wars against Rome, China, Central Asia
  • Roman wars of expansion and extermination
  • Asoka’s (and others’) wars of domination on the Indian subcontinent (though Asoka apparently had a religion inspired change of mind about all this killing)
  • Alexander the Great’s campaigns (although he started to think of himself as a God)
  • Chinese warring states period(s)
  • Persian-Greek war (although the Persians did have some religious justifications)
  • Egyptian wars and wars of Mesopotamian states (covering several thousand years with the proviso that Gods went hand in hand with all this)
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May not have been caused by wars but one can bet their bottom dollar that the soldiers in most were promised they’d win as god was on their side.

A lot easier to get someone to die for you if they feel there’s an eternal paradise awaiting them if they fall in battle.
 
I can see a non religious point of reasoning for most of those wars, but the West’s invasion of Afghanistan is surely religious based:
Trying to get rid of an extreme branch of Islam , which was sheltering el-quaida, which had caused Sept 11th, due to the ideology of labelling the West ‘crusaders’ and wanting to remove all other religions and strike against the great infidel?
 
nimrod said:
For a minute I thought you meant alcohol ;)

Then again booze does cause plenty of problems and many deaths, pissed up fights in Town & City centres on Friday nights, many a life has been ruined and even lost

Anyway I found this list of wars where Religion wasnt the cause.

  • War in Iraq 2
  • War in Afghanistan
  • African wars in the Congo (DRC)
  • Genocide in Rwanda
  • War in Iraq 1
  • Iraq/Iran war
  • All those civil wars in Latin America in the 70s and 80s
  • Civil war / genocide in Cambodia
  • China-Vietnam war
  • USA/France-Vietnam war
  • Korean war
  • Chinese civil war(s)
  • World War 2
  • Japanese invasion of China
  • Russian revolution (and related wars)
  • World War 1
  • Scramble for Africa
  • Franco-Prussian war
  • Crimean war
  • Taiping rebellion (Chinese civil war — although the main protagonist had crazy religious visions)
  • US Civil War
  • War of 1812 (and all the US wars of that time)
  • Opium wars
  • Napoleonic wars
  • Wars of the French revolution
  • Prussia’s wars of expansion (Silesia, etc. — Friedrich the Great)
  • Ottomans’ wars of expansion
  • Aztecs’ wars of expansion
  • Wars of the Roses
  • Ghenghis Khan’s invasions (and those of his descendants)
  • 100-year war
  • Viking ‘raids’
  • An Lushan ‘Rebellion’
  • Nomadic tribes’ wars against Rome, China, Central Asia
  • Roman wars of expansion and extermination
  • Asoka’s (and others’) wars of domination on the Indian subcontinent (though Asoka apparently had a religion inspired change of mind about all this killing)
  • Alexander the Great’s campaigns (although he started to think of himself as a God)
  • Chinese warring states period(s)
  • Persian-Greek war (although the Persians did have some religious justifications)
  • Egyptian wars and wars of Mesopotamian states (covering several thousand years with the proviso that Gods went hand in hand with all this)
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I would argue that some of those conflicts listed above were about religion.

Afghanistan is a war about Muslim views of the western world.

World wars were about a guy who wanted to wipe out a race altogether.

Yes they weren't one religion against another like City v United, but religion played a part.
 
kippaxking79 said:
I would argue that some of those conflicts listed above were about religion.

Afghanistan is a war about Muslim views of the western world.

World wars were about a guy who wanted to wipe out a race altogether.

Yes they weren't one religion against another like City v United, but religion played a part.
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Just because warring factions followed some form of religion, doesn't mean the wars were themselves religious in nature. Nationalism is also a culprit for a large number of wars.
 
SWP's back said:
Yeah I’d certainly not be modifying my behaviour to appease someone’s religious belief in a licensed pub.

Just hope the god botherers were eating kosher.
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Some might say the whole point of the new testament was to suggest that bothering God is kind of impossible. Like 'he' gives a fuck whether you have a pint or two or ten? 'He' still loves because that is the nature of 'his' being. In this sense it might be suggested that the old testament was more like a promise/threat that if you were a miserable enough twat when alive, then you might get to be happy after you die - thus to enjoy a pint whilst alive would be utter blasphemy and assure you a place in the hell of a, erm ,miserable twatdom after you die. Genius
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It’s doesnt really (although Tennessee is still technically dry iirc). It does have dry counties, however. In fact the Jack Daniels distillery is located in one such county, believe it or not.
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My lad and his mate were invited to Little Rock Arkansas by a friend who was on a golf scholarship. He didnt tell him it was dry. They had to drive someway to find a bar in another county. Bastard`s
 
Eli Panic said:
Most 'god botherers' would be quite tolerant of other people's views and personal beliefs. Some people are very quick to criticise, yet they themselves display a level of prejudice and intolerance.
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Every made up pile of Bronze Age shit holy book is bursting at the seams with intolerance, genocide and promotion and endorsement of human slavery. Each sect has its own interpretation and all are intolerant of others who don’t see it their way.

They all are a cancer on any society that wants tolerance. Every single one. I always quote the absolute horrors contained within their books to any of them who start to pull the, that offends my beliefs card.

Everybody should. They think they should get a bye because of their delusions. They shouldn’t. Each book is a litany of hâte for those not of their sect. Even Jeezy Peezy endorses slavery. Told us to love him and he would love us back. But if we didn’t, then we would burn in hell for eternity.

Imagine you had a daughter and she came home and told you her new boyfriend loved her that much, that if she stopped loving him, he would burn her alive? That’s Jesus and he’s supposed to be the good guy.

Don’t give these bastards an inch. Don’t let their mental illness intrude on your life and take every opportunity to expose the hate and intolerance in every holy book ever written.

Then tell them to fuck off and keep it to themselves. A few doozies from the bible that’s show what an abomination of a book it is.

Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:


You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20


Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10


Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16


Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7


Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13


Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20


Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11


Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5

Their god is a psychopath, tell them that and watch their deluded faces picture you burning in hell.

They might think they are moral people. Following any of the books clearly contradicts any morality I want to see.

For it is written.
 
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