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just sitting down and listen and talk to kids is the best way forward, but you do have to drop down to there level to get there trust and respect and ask them what they like and think, communication is a two way thing and getting them to understand at a such a young age is just about impossible, so why make it like your banging your head on the walls
so adding pressure about religion every single day and banging on and on about the good lord just does not work for me, but make it fun and let them enjoy what they are doing then that's when you get them, kids have a short time span and respond best to fun not brainwashing
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With your blessing : /
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I have little understanding of Trinitarian theology Tony even though I was whelped catholic and to this very day can still recite the Missals with a a scrap or two of Latin which if I may be bold as to say has served me little in the way of worldly prowess upon this spinning sphere.On my troubled road to Jerusalem if someone was to have approached and said Bob Lad in a broader sense of the word where do you sit on a theistic level I would without fear of ridicule say that I erred toward polytheism rather than complete abstention but polytheism in that encompassed my own mindset only.As long as I do not release or inflict my own "possibly wayward" beliefs onto others then little harm done.I find the old gods to be less hypocritical and are Gods that call a spade a spade.You sort of know where you stand with them and make your choices accordingly.With regards to Arfur the reason I find him interesting is his ability to rise above the angst and fever pitch by calmly expressing his own experiences however credible to others in our midst with precision and guile.I do not understand all he says but hes definitely a deep thinker and worthy of a listen.From what I gather he does not share monotheistic tendencies but instead thinks way beyond the box forever soul searching and evaluating his position.Whatever we believe as long as it cause little harm to other sentient beings then fair fooks eh and this is where the one christian God belief falls flat on it's arse-hole encompassing untold misery torture debauchery and mudder most foul.
Sometimes when the mood takes I follow Crom who resides on the great Eiglophian mountain ranges of Cimmeria having strength endurance and much cosmic awareness with incalapable mystic powers when evaluated at an omniprotent level. He also knows the riddle of steel : /
me too bob although as soon as i got my own mindset, it was quickly booted into touch
as you say and i have said countless times you can believe what you want as you want, but bring it into the public domain then don't think it can be let go as a fact without being challenged.
that particular line you quoted with arfur irks me as its so cruel especially to those weak of mind
what can i say about arfur - relentless
This makes a lot of sense. But perhaps to shift this a touch and ask 'what is Love?' I don't know if you ever had a pet but, if you did, did you Love them? Did you try to be the big 'I am' and order them around? Or did you take a moment to feel a connection and be with them this way? Now, I am not saying that in this sense of connection I suddenly decided that my dog was a human, or that I was a dog. I didn't stand there and say 'here's a tenner and my car keys - go sort your own dinner out.' I didn't suddenly get down on one knee and ask him to be my wife. I didn't try to teach him the tenets of any religion or get pissed off with him when he couldn't repeat the words of the bibleverbatim (and heaven forbid if he used the wrong 'translation'). But still, there felt like there was an essence - a connection- of Love. Maybe some here will try to explain this in terms of just chemical reactions or whatever. That be right for them? Ok. So be it. And yet there is a saying that 'a dog is man's best friend.' Maybe this has something to with this sense of connection? Had a shit day at work? Meet your doggie friend - his wagging tail and sense of affection might help the troubles of the 'clever' mind begin to fade away. In this way, we might come to feel truly supported - perhaps more so than we might do through other humans...who, rather than just 'be' and listen, instead will try to use their intellects to find ways to 'fix' us. Not always so enjoyable?
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I have taken the liberty of escalating him to nos 6 in my all time favourite poster list.In years from now they will speak of his name with reverence and panache.A breath of fresh air in a sea of soup.
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After reading the last few pages I’m more convinced than ever there is no God
The irony of this line. In that what I been speaking of is a way to really open to one's own 'best way' - that which is beyond the conditioning given to us by others...whether 'religious,' 'scientific' or whatever. And if you call me relentless then maybe this is just a natural 'stamina' that comes from letting go of the need to spend energy on trying to follow a way that is not truly one's own?
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Reported for blasphemy !
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lol you and me both two gun bob, you and me both. Perhaps the hardest thing to 'explain' is that, in order to beOh my days and knights !
free of this conditioning , one will first have to come to an awareness of how heavy it feels - and how attachment to this
heaviness can make us feel oh so tired, exhausted even. But as we learn to let go of this (perhaps not by blaming others?)
then we naturally come to feel so much lighter -life is less of a burden - more of who we really are is easily and joyously expressed.
A beautiful thing, really?
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Arfur you have now been escalated to poster nos 1 in my all time Moon poster list.I just knew one day that someone would come from that wilderness to lead us from the Dark Side Of The Moon back into that light.
I have enjoyed listening to you mate and truly beautiful indeed.Adios amigo:
I have enjoyed listening to you mate and truly beautiful indeed.Adios amigo:
Thanks, and yet if you have enjoyed this...you might want to 'give credit' to the OP... and everyone else that has contributed - one way or another. The words I write are but a by-product of this. Kinda funny, right?
very, very unpolished notes - if for nothing else, to give some folk here the opportunity for some easy target practice - enjoy!!!
"Moving from the intellect as God (with its methods of control and indoctrination) to truly rational thought (its ways of free inspiration). Truly rational thought being that where the logical and intuitive are in union born of a harmony that is ground in genuine creativity.
Moving from away from conversing intellectually about art to engaging in the practices and processes of Art that lead to the deepening of rational thought. Falling from the intellectual mind and feeling through any chaos, to come to feel more grounded thus rising to higher levels of rational thought - but in a balanced way.
“The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it didn't fall, for it was founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of mine, and doesn't do them will be like a foolish man, who built his house on the sand.”
A house that is built on rational thought will be more powerful than one that is built on intellectual thought alone. The digging through the sands is the process of feeling one’s way through chaos to the rock of harmonious creativity.
What is a house - a person, physical building or even a conceptual space like a thread on a forum?
The mystery of creativity - where might this be arising? Perhaps slowly everywhere yet it might first begin to blossom in people, places, countries, areas that are less expected, in ways that might at first be confusing but then delightfully surprising…eventually subsuming, refreshing, renewing those ‘churches’ (whether of religion, science etc ) that have previously been the domain of intellectualism
in the Light of Love. Blessed "
"Moving from the intellect as God (with its methods of control and indoctrination) to truly rational thought (its ways of free inspiration). Truly rational thought being that where the logical and intuitive are in union born of a harmony that is ground in genuine creativity.
Moving from away from conversing intellectually about art to engaging in the practices and processes of Art that lead to the deepening of rational thought. Falling from the intellectual mind and feeling through any chaos, to come to feel more grounded thus rising to higher levels of rational thought - but in a balanced way.
“The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it didn't fall, for it was founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of mine, and doesn't do them will be like a foolish man, who built his house on the sand.”
A house that is built on rational thought will be more powerful than one that is built on intellectual thought alone. The digging through the sands is the process of feeling one’s way through chaos to the rock of harmonious creativity.
What is a house - a person, physical building or even a conceptual space like a thread on a forum?
The mystery of creativity - where might this be arising? Perhaps slowly everywhere yet it might first begin to blossom in people, places, countries, areas that are less expected, in ways that might at first be confusing but then delightfully surprising…eventually subsuming, refreshing, renewing those ‘churches’ (whether of religion, science etc ) that have previously been the domain of intellectualism
in the Light of Love. Blessed "
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Haha, that’s exactly what I thought when I first read that story “I’d buy ’shroomed up reindeer piss if they sold it in the shops!”
I’ve used and enjoyed psychoactive drugs to open my mind up to different ways of thinking and feeling. Whenever I’ve used them I’ve always felt more sure of myself as a person, more at peace with the worries and stresses I usually have in life. Whenever I’ve had long periods of time without taking them I feel more insecure about myself and those worries and stresses. I think they’re a wonderful thing and are very misunderstood by modern societies!
One thing I really want to do is go to South America and go to a retreat and take Ayahuasca.
These two are definitely the same person.