City Fans Leaving Early/Empty seats

blueparrot said:
Do we though I often see this, I'm sure there are some but thousands ? As far as I knew we have about 46000 s/c , 3000 away allocations which leaves about 5000 I would say a majority of these go on on sale to matchday members in July and are snapped up pretty quick leaving lots of singles dotted about which for most games are still available now.
So no doubt some seats are given to companies probably in the main level 2 padded seats but my guess would be hundreds certainly not thousands. Just checked and about 5 games are showing as sold out.
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I meant across the season

19 home league games, five home CL games on average and say five home domestic cup games x an estimation of 1500 per match = 43500 tickets a season

You only had to see the Celtic fans around the stadium to know they are not just single seats here and there numbering a few dozen or even a few hundred.
 
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Prestwich_Blue said:
210 is premium - 93:20 or something. It's the same on the other side (220?). Should just reduce the size of these areas. I think we've completely over-estimated the demand for hospitality. Most of the executive boxes on the East Stand side were empty on Saturday.
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By a long LONG way!
 
cleavers said:
The main reason people left early on Saturday was the game was over, it finished 2 minutes into the second half, and for the last 30 minutes Pep turned it into an experimental training session, and it became dull and disjointed, and we created next to nothing in that time. Had it been close, and the full team on the pitch, in their natural positions, I doubt that many would have left.

Strangely it seemed busier than ever walking back into town afterwards.
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Exactly this. The team clocked off 30 minutes early so I clocked off 10 minutes early.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I meant across the season

19 home league games, five home CL games on average and say five home domestic cup games x an estimation of 1500 per match = 43500 tickets a season

You only had to see the Celtic fans around the stadium to know they are not just single seats here and there numbering a few dozen or even a few hundred.
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Right fair enough across the season yes. Would be good to know how many maybe it's information we might now have access to, with the City Matter thing.
 
We never seemed to have the issues with empty seats in the early years of the take over, the match day ticket prices with the blue membership were in a quite affordable range for people like myself who cant get to all games to casually watch quite a few games a season. They seemed to push the prices up after 2012 which has left people with no option to buy a season card even though they have no intention of attending all games.

If the website is correct we are selling out but a lot of unused tickets are going to agencies who cant shift them, I dont think the club cares if they are occupied or not as long as someone has paid for them. Dropping match day ticket prices wont work as they will have to drop the price of a season ticket which they do a decent job of shifting year in year out.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
We never seemed to have the issues with empty seats in the early years of the take over, the match day ticket prices with the blue membership were in a quite affordable range for people like myself who cant get to all games to casually watch quite a few games a season. They seemed to push the prices up after 2012 which has left people with no option to buy a season card even though they have no intention of attending all games.

If the website is correct we are selling out but a lot of unused tickets are going to agencies who cant shift them, I dont think the club cares if they are occupied or not as long as someone has paid for them. Dropping match day ticket prices wont work as they will have to drop the price of a season ticket which they do a decent job of shifting year in year out.
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When I had a season ticket after the move, a good few years before the take over when we were shit, I never remember looking around at empty seats. When we beat Chelsea in 04 I’m pretty sure that was an actual sell out, where literally no empty seats existed.
 
Pigeonho said:
When I had a season ticket after the move, a good few years before the take over when we were shit, I never remember looking around at empty seats. When we beat Chelsea in 04 I’m pretty sure that was an actual sell out, where literally no empty seats existed.
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First year of being in the stadium it was difficult to get a ticket, I remember there was a drop off under Pearce but people came back when Thaksin took over and started spending. Then the Sheikh took over the match day tickets vanished pretty quickly so they stung you with the priority charge for when the tickets went on sale. There was never rows of empty seats in the south stand then.

I dont think the club cares, Soriano seems to obsessed with selling premium packages in the tunnel club rather than alienating the people that have been watching City in some very lean times.
 
The empty seats have become more and more visible because season ticket and matchday tickets have gone up in price 9 season’s out of 10 season’s.

Yes we’re getting value for money on the pitch, but if people can’t afford match tickets, it doesn’t matter about value for money on the pitch.

The worry for me is when Pep leaves and the team begins to regress, how many new empty seats will appear then?

The stand out decision for me was when City price tiered the blocks, instead of the levels.

How City can justify charging fans different seat prices because they are 1 2, 3, etc rows apart in the same block is beyond me.

The gentrification of level 2 has also left numerous empty seats.

And even though the Family stand is a noble idea, it’s been nothing short of a diaster empty seats wise, when the NS always used be full before fans were shifted out of there.

All this re-pricing, moving fans about, and upheaval has been railroaded through in the name of closing the matchday revenue gap on the other big clubs.

I look at Barcelona with Messi & Co and the Camp Nou has hundreds, if not thousands of empty seats, due to the high cost of match tickets.

Is there a connection?

PS. Don‘t get me started on the 3% season ticket price rise last season. How much did we get from Amazon for All Or Nothing? Was it £10mill?(rumour)
 
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BlueMoon Risin' said:
How much is 93:20 per game, and what you get for your money?

Must be good food and drink cos no **** can be arsed coming out until about 55 minutes!
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Works out around £80per game for me and my lad over the 22 games you get. And nah food and drink is nothing special, the bar was better before they put stickers over the windows so you cant see outside. It's like a concrete bunker now. It's ok to chill after the match though and let the car parks clear. A free programme and a padded seat! Views decent though, near the away fans but not too close to them (my lad is only 9) if match goes a bit stale you can watch the dickheads get pulled out and arrested like that Doylam Fulham fan at the weekend who was told to calm down numerous times :-D
 
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mcfcmatt said:
Works out around £80per game for me and my lad over the 22 games you get. And nah food and drink is nothing special, the bar was better before they put stickers over the windows so you cant see outside. It's like a concrete bunker now. It's ok to chill after the match though and let the car parks clear. A free programme and a padded seat! Views decent though, near the away fans but not too close to them (my lad is only 9)
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22 games? Are the 3 extra cup games, and are you committed to buying them?

I'm not having a go at you or anyone else if you choose to sit in the posh seats, fair enough, each to their own. it's just that the club need to realise that MCFC has largely always been supported by local working class fans who cannot afford the (almost perennial) price hikes each season, and most old school supporters don't want extras like corporate food& drink, padded seats and programs.

A couple of my mates have been in corporate, one said his mate rents a box for around 30k per season and the hospitality is first class. Bloody should be at that price. I'd want the finest quality drinks, the poshest nosh, and then a posh nosh as an extra after the game! ; )...Another mate regularly sits in corporate and told me the food and drink you get is top restaurant quality. I pissed him off somewhat when I reminded him that not too long ago he was in the common seats with the rest of us, and that I wouldn't go in corporate seats if they free.

I want to go to games and be part of the atmosphere, not stuck behind some glass box more concerned at looking at the menu than the game!

And I don't need a padded seat or 'free' programe either, especially when it comes at a premium cost. But I and many others who just want to see games without the bells and whistles of corporate packages are slowly being squeezed out from attending games.

Khaldoon has said that he(they) want to keep our loyal fan base. Nice words but do they really care when the stadium is rarely full with bums on seats? The answer is obviously not or they would be doing their utmost to make sure that the empty seats were actually filled with attending supporters, not stuck in some agency office waiting to be sold.

I fully understand the need for the club to be self sustaining and competitive in order to compete with Europe's biggest clubs, but the cost of match days has to be affordable, especially for parents wanting to take their kids to games. The game is awash with TV and advertising money and sponsors.

Like I've previously said on here, we have the fanbase, even to expand the Northstand and fill it, but if the cost of attending games keeps rising there is no point in expanding the stadium until the club realise many previously attending supporters simply cannot afford to go anymore.

Fuck all the agencies off,make it affordable, and bingo, a full house.
 
BlueMoon Risin' said:
22 games? Are the 3 extra cup games, and are you committed to buying them?
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The first 3 domestic cup games are included in the price over the season. So 19PL games and 3 Cup.
To say individual matches are now £47.50-60per adult and £27.50-£35 per child in most areas it's not that bad over the season.
 
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BlueMoon Risin' said:
A couple of my mates have been in corporate, one said his mate rents a box for around 30k per season and the hospitality is first class. Bloody should be at that price. I'd want the finest quality drinks, the poshest nosh, and then a posh nosh as an extra after the game! ; )...Another mate regularly sits in corporate and told me the food and drink you get is top restaurant quality. I pissed him off somewhat when I reminded him that not too long ago he was in the common seats with the rest of us, and that I wouldn't go in corporate seats if they free.
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We went in the tunnel club last season for Burnley FA Cup game for kids xmas present and it was a 'cheaper' game to go to. Food is A1 as is the service but the atmosphere of it was awful :/ the kids got to greet the players which was pretty cool, Raheem grabbed my nephews cheek which he will never forget! But the price of that is shocking, you would have to be either insane or burning corporation tax money to go in there which I think a lot do.
 
mcfcmatt said:
The first 3 domestic cup games are included in the price over the season. So 19PL games and 3 Cup.
To say individual matches are now £47.50-60per adult and £27.50-£35 per child in most areas it's not that bad over the season.
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With respect mate, not that bad in your opinion as you can obviously afford it . But how many blues can't afford to take their kids to games at those prices?
 
BlueMoon Risin' said:
With respect mate, not that bad in your opinion as you can obviously afford it . But how many blues can't afford to take their kids to games at those prices?
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Yeh but look at the FB groups now? you can pick tickets up for £20 some even get given away for free. I suppose the Club have to make the figures now to keep in with the Financial Fair Play bollocks. I pay mine monthly over 10months, instead of having a couple of nights on the piss I have them instead.
 
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