Away tickets

[UUJblue]

Something else worth doing would be give increased points for hard to fill games
Utd at home gets 10
Burton st home gets 100
That would fill the stadium and stop people ( the press ) going on about empty seats
My biggest issue with points is the people who buy to retain points and don't go . I am not sure how that can be stopped though

Fair point. City use to offer up to 30 for some Cat C teams? but crappy euro or cup ties should have more points 30-70 per game as an incentive.

Looking back at my ticket points as far as 2011/12 i use to get 50 points a season for subscribing to the e-magazine and 50 for the e-programme!! There was load of silly add-ons at the time for building up points.

Anyone remember the wee booth that use to be at the city store and you could scan your ST on matchday? was this for points?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Something else worth doing would be give increased points for hard to fill games
Utd at home gets 10
Burton st home gets 100
That would fill the stadium and stop people ( the press ) going on about empty seats
My biggest issue with points is the people who buy to retain points and don't go . I am not sure how that can be stopped though

I would have though most of those who don’t go to a home game are not overly bothered about away games.

 

[blue44]

Fair point. City use to offer up to 30 for some Cat C teams? but crappy euro or cup ties should have more points 30-70 per game as an incentive.

Looking back at my ticket points as far as 2011/12 i use to get 50 points a season for subscribing to the e-magazine and 50 for the e-programme!! There was load of silly add-ons at the time for building up points.

Anyone remember the wee booth that use to be at the city store and you could scan your ST on matchday? was this for points?

those were for cityzen points i think where you could claim free stuff with your cityzen points,they've stopped that now

regarding loyalty points,i remember getting 100 points for the home game v Reading in the FA Cup the year we won it
,Also I got 50 points for the game v Timisora on a thursday night early kick off in the europa league i think.

 

[BM Blue]

Fair point. City use to offer up to 30 for some Cat C teams? but crappy euro or cup ties should have more points 30-70 per game as an incentive.

Looking back at my ticket points as far as 2011/12 i use to get 50 points a season for subscribing to the e-magazine and 50 for the e-programme!! There was load of silly add-ons at the time for building up points.

Anyone remember the wee booth that use to be at the city store and you could scan your ST on matchday? was this for points?

In the 2010/11 season for the FA Cup R4 onwards you were awarded 50 points per match and a 150 Bonus for buying all of them; and for the Europa League knockout rounds it was 50 per match and a 100 Bonus for buying all. This was before platinum was introduced too!!

 

[City & Blue Brazil]

Something else worth doing would be give increased points for hard to fill games
Utd at home gets 10
Burton st home gets 100
That would fill the stadium and stop people ( the press ) going on about empty seats
My biggest issue with points is the people who buy to retain points and don't go . I am not sure how that can be stopped though

It would only even things out though if we moved to a system of say last three years points counting which are rolled over at the end of the season with the rarliearyear then dropping out. Platinum could be scrapped finally and it's benefits would be gone after three years.

 

[blueinsa]

Ahhhh remember the good old days when if you wanted an away ticket and qualified for one you got your arse down to the ticket office and waited in line and if you couldn't because of work and yes, we all worked even in those days so no time is not an excuse, one of your mates went down.

Once they where gone they where gone

 

[BM Blue]

How about this for an off the wall suggestion.....
Why don't the club retrospectively give say an extra 100 points for each home Cup/Champions League match that supporters have attended over say the last 5 years (or since the takeover), ie rewarding actual loyalty and support of our team without the prior knowledge of gaining points. That should give a boost to those on lower points!

 

[Jordie]

How about this for an off the wall suggestion.....
Why don't the club retrospectively give say an extra 100 points for each home Cup/Champions League match that supporters have attended over say the last 5 years (or since the takeover), ie rewarding actual loyalty and support of our team without the prior knowledge of gaining points. That should give a boost to those on lower points!

Trouble is as I have already stated the ones on big points were probably at all them games too, so you would still be no nearer.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Ahhhh remember the good old days when if you wanted an away ticket and qualified for one you got your arse down to the ticket office and waited in line and if you couldn't because of work and yes, we all worked even in those days so no time is not an excuse, one of your mates went down.

Once they where gone they where gone

Or the even better old days where you woke up, thought “shall I go to Huddersfield today” rang your mate, jumped on a train and paid at the gate! Much easier :-)

 

[BM Blue]

Trouble is as I have already stated the ones on big points were probably at all them games too, so you would still be no nearer.

So your gripe isn't just with Platinum, it's that a lot of people have been going to many games for many years and therefore the JCL's are restricted in their choice of current away games! Prestwich_Blue put forward a comment that the club wanted bums on seats and would give extra points for attending matches, this still wouldn't get people up the ladder as those with the most points will still attend as they/we have been doing for many many years!!

 

[berryblue]

Or the even better old days where you woke up, thought “shall I go to Huddersfield today” rang your mate, jumped on a train and paid at the gate! Much easier :-)

Joined by the 100 or so who only wanted to fight once they got inside the stadium, followed by Pens being erected to try and stop them, followed by the Hillsborough disaster, leading to all ticket Stadiums.

 

[blueinsa]

Joined by the 100 or so who only wanted to fight once they got inside the stadium, followed by Pens being erected to try and stop them, followed by the Hillsborough disaster, leading to all ticket Stadiums.

wtf??? lol

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Our Loyalty Points are a limited view on who has been "loyal".

They're literally the 2001 Onwards Points.

They've been going for 18 years so where does the loyalty of the many thousands of fans who went to many hundreds of games through the 1990s or both the 1980s and 90s (or further back) come in?

What about older fellas who could have been going since the 1950s and probably been to double the amount of games over the decades than someone with a high number of 2001 Onwards Points?

I don't think someone who has 20000 2001 Onwards Points is any more deserving of an away ticket than someone who went to every single game from 1965-2000 but started a family in his 40s then couldn't go as much from 2001 onwards.

And what about someone who's, say, 17 now. In exactly the same position as someone who started going at 17 in 2001 who could be on 20000 points now. The current 17 year old has no chance of getting tickets to some games and will never ever catch up to have enough to go to all games even though he's bang ready to now? Of course he can go to some games (Cardiff was a Saturday game that went down to low points).

None of these actually apply to me. I can get tickets to a lot of away games - although i shot myself in the foot by boycotting all away tickets that were over £50 when that started creeping in and fell behind in the 2001 Onwards Points scheme. But they are just things i think about from time-to-time for other people in those positions. Let's face it, we shouldn't all have an "i'm alright, Jack" attitude or snipe at people for not going to a mid-week away game when they might not even be able to get the afternoon off work, because one day we'll all be too old to go or even dead and we could have a generation behind us who are so used to not going to away games that we don't have a proper away following.


I'll tell you what as well, our atmosphere away from home was a damn site better before the 2001 Onwards Points came in! I think when people don't go to away games all the time, relish the experience of going and make more noise (Stoke away last season was an example of that, lots more younger lads and different faces than usual and it was one of our best atmospheres of the season). Food for thought...

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Our Loyalty Points are a limited view on who has been "loyal".

They're literally the 2001 Onwards Points.

They've been going for 18 years so where does the loyalty of the many thousands of fans who went to many hundreds of games through the 1990s or both the 1980s and 90s (or further back) come in?

What about older fellas who could have been going since the 1950s and probably been to double the amount of games over the decades than someone with a high number of 2001 Onwards Points?

I don't think someone who has 20000 2001 Onwards Points is any more deserving of an away ticket than someone who went to every single game from 1965-2000 but started a family in his 40s then couldn't go as much from 2001 onwards.

And what about someone who's, say, 17 now. In exactly the same position as someone who started going at 17 in 2001 who could be on 20000 points now. The current 17 year old has no chance of getting tickets to some games and will never ever catch up to have enough to go to all games even though he's bang ready to now? Of course he can go to some games (Cardiff was a Saturday game that went down to low points).

None of these actually apply to me. I can get tickets to a lot of away games - although i shot myself in the foot by boycotting all away tickets that were over £50 when that started creeping in and fell behind in the 2001 Onwards Points scheme. But they are just things i think about from time-to-time for other people in those positions. Let's face it, we shouldn't all have an "i'm alright, Jack" attitude or snipe at people for not going to a mid-week away game when they might not even be able to get the afternoon off work, because one day we'll all be too old to go or even dead and we could have a generation behind us who are so used to not going to away games that we don't have a proper away following.


I'll tell you what as well, our atmosphere away from home was a damn site better before the 2001 Onwards Points came in! I think when people don't go to away games all the time, relish the experience of going and make more noise (Stoke away last season was an example of that, lots more younger lads and different faces than usual and it was one of our best atmospheres of the season). Food for thought...

I find it interesting that our worst away vocal support is at grounds that are easy travelling distances from Manchester, including Huddersfield and Burnley. I am not sure why this is?

 

[TheRubberRing]

I’m 19, been going City my whole life since I was born. If you go most away games you’ll probably recognise my face or have seen me about. My dad didn’t take me away every week when I was younger than 10 but he still took me to the a handful of away games a year. As I’ve got older and more independent I’ve ended up going to near enough every game. I’ve done over 50 games most seasons for the last few years. I’m very honest about how I get my tickets. I use my points when I can, then supporters clubs for when I don’t have enough and if that fails I use favours from people. I have also travelled without a ticket and then hoped there’s one about outside. I sat in the Huddersfield end yesterday. My point being that if you want to watch city away and your willing to take a risk maybe you will 9/10 always get a ticket (people ill on the day etc).
My take on the point system is that I think city can’t win either way. Yes I agree those at the top have earned their points over the years however I believe tickets were more easily accessible then. Now that the demand has increased it’s obviously becomes more difficult. Therefore I’ve found a frustration with people my age that we can’t get tickets that the older generations were able to when you were our age (we just want to do the same things you did when you were 20). You can’t expect parents to take their children away every week (junior pull through scheme) just so they can accumulate more points it’s simply not realistic.
My idea is that you keep the current points scheme but you compete against those at a similar age to you. the club allocates so many tickets to different age brackets. Then they just work down from there based on your points etc. I hope I’m making sense.
I could ramble on about it all day.
anyway see you at burton on Wednesday and yes I did use my supporters club for that [emoji6]

 

[BM Blue]

I find it interesting that our worst away vocal support is at grounds that are easy travelling distances from Manchester, including Huddersfield and Burnley. I am not sure why this is?

Very strange as hardly any Corporate's are likely to go, and usually sell out at very high points 18.5k for Huddersfield. Only connection is that I've not been to them :-)
(as not enough points...) :-(

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Our Loyalty Points are a limited view on who has been "loyal".

They're literally the 2001 Onwards Points.

They've been going for 18 years so where does the loyalty of the many thousands of fans who went to many hundreds of games through the 1990s or both the 1980s and 90s (or further back) come in?

What about older fellas who could have been going since the 1950s and probably been to double the amount of games over the decades than someone with a high number of 2001 Onwards Points?

I don't think someone who has 20000 2001 Onwards Points is any more deserving of an away ticket than someone who went to every single game from 1965-2000 but started a family in his 40s then couldn't go as much from 2001 onwards.

And what about someone who's, say, 17 now. In exactly the same position as someone who started going at 17 in 2001 who could be on 20000 points now. The current 17 year old has no chance of getting tickets to some games and will never ever catch up to have enough to go to all games even though he's bang ready to now? Of course he can go to some games (Cardiff was a Saturday game that went down to low points).

None of these actually apply to me. I can get tickets to a lot of away games - although i shot myself in the foot by boycotting all away tickets that were over £50 when that started creeping in and fell behind in the 2001 Onwards Points scheme. But they are just things i think about from time-to-time for other people in those positions. Let's face it, we shouldn't all have an "i'm alright, Jack" attitude or snipe at people for not going to a mid-week away game when they might not even be able to get the afternoon off work, because one day we'll all be too old to go or even dead and we could have a generation behind us who are so used to not going to away games that we don't have a proper away following.


I'll tell you what as well, our atmosphere away from home was a damn site better before the 2001 Onwards Points came in! I think when people don't go to away games all the time, relish the experience of going and make more noise (Stoke away last season was an example of that, lots more younger lads and different faces than usual and it was one of our best atmospheres of the season). Food for thought...

I'm one of these older supporters and I went to more or less every away game I had the money to get to in the 70s & 80s but you can't prove it as it was pay on the gate other than the Derby plus how far back can you go? Trying to make attendance 30-40 plus years ago count is not fair as it was an entirely different situation then. All you had to do to go to an away was get there and make sure you got in before the gates shut (which in reality wasn't that often as grounds had bigger capacities generally).

 

[bennyboy]

Same old faces at away games means that there is not much wrong with the system we have in place surely.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Very strange as hardly any Corporate's are likely to go, and usually sell out at very high points 18.5k for Huddersfield. Only connection is that I've not been to them :-)
(as not enough points...) :-(

Join a Supporters Club mate

 

[BM Blue]

Join a Supporters Club mate

Seems the solution.... !!