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For the Carabao I'm pretty sure it went to open sale last time.

I think you’re right actually. That said, you won’t get the choice of tickets at the back end! My 2 girls are members not seasoncard holders so I’m hoping I can get them decent seats
 
I don't miss many matches and thats been the case for the last 30+ years, i've been a platinum holder since it started and like others not in agreement with it but it has helped me get a ticket for matches where ticket allocation has been low, bournemouth, monaco etc. when i can't go such as spurs away this season, moved to a monday night completely f**ked it up for me, west ham away was on holiday ( only time i miss city games is to follow England cricket around the world ) but i wouldn't apply for a ticket if i couldn't go, and hope that someone deserving gets the ticket i didn't/couldn't use. This season for southampton away my ticket didn't arrive and on contacting the club was told to pick up at saint mary's, i did say thats a long way for me to go if there's a problem, i was assured there would be no problem and thankfully there wasn't, got there early picked up ticket. I did post on another thread wondering if this was a club policy of not sending so many tickets out forcing people to take ID with them and picking them up to try and prevent point whores, if so GOOD. Although for european trips it was a pain as if only there for a day trip it was hours lost getting to ticket collection point then queuing celtic away was the worst, psg wasn't much better and bucherest having to walk/taxi 4 miles away was unnecessary.
 
I think you’re right actually. That said, you won’t get the choice of tickets at the back end! My 2 girls are members not seasoncard holders so I’m hoping I can get them decent seats

Well if they're 16 or under you might be able to get them at the same time as yours
 
Although, I’ve always qualified, I find it peculiar that I also receive loyalty points for the Old Trafford derby, and subsequently move further ahead of those blues, who fall just below the required points threshold.

Similarly it wouldn’t be that complicated to separate the cup scheme points, and start from scratch each season.

Schalke Away: First priority should be those who attended the three group games, (not sure any of them sold out)

Burton Away First priority should be those who travelled to both Oxford and Leicester.

It's not perfect, but that system would give younger fans a far greater chance of qualifying for vital cup games, rather than suffering because they were only 5 years old when the points system started.
 
There is another potential squeeze on SC point holders over time and that is further increases in the number of tickets going to seasonal hospitality members. Although it looks like plans to make all Level 2 corporate has been shelved and seemingly an extended NS won't have any corporate facilities there is still a big proportion of current corporate capacity being sold on a match by match basis. If the club can find a way to sell this on a seasonal basis then the buyers will expect access to away tickets.
 
Rather than start a new thread, How about this, Prestwich Blue and our other representatives go to City and ask them to scrap Platinum. That is the first step to getting a decent points system.
A season ticket holder could get the following;
Season ticket 190 points or 380 points if on Platinum.
We have already played 3 or 4 home cup games plus champs league that's 70/140. basically for 50 quid you are 260 points better off. and that's just home games.
I know in the grand scheme of things that is not a lot but it all adds up. I people agree pm Prestwich !!! no perhaps not, post it on here.
We laugh at the Rags for forcing their fans to buy League cup tickets even if they don't/can't go and yet we have this system. IT IS WRONG.
 
Rather than start a new thread, How about this, Prestwich Blue and our other representatives go to City and ask them to scrap Platinum. That is the first step to getting a decent points system.
A season ticket holder could get the following;
Season ticket 190 points or 380 points if on Platinum.
We have already played 3 or 4 home cup games plus champs league that's 70/140. basically for 50 quid you are 260 points better off. and that's just home games.
I know in the grand scheme of things that is not a lot but it all adds up. I people agree pm Prestwich !!! no perhaps not, post it on here.
We laugh at the Rags for forcing their fans to buy League cup tickets even if they don't/can't go and yet we have this system. IT IS WRONG.
don't forget the cup schemes though too !
100 points for each,but double that if you're on platinum,so if you are on all 3
300 without platinum, 600 if u r , with your season ticket points its 490 or 980 .
 
Rather than start a new thread, How about this, Prestwich Blue and our other representatives go to City and ask them to scrap Platinum. That is the first step to getting a decent points system.
A season ticket holder could get the following;
Season ticket 190 points or 380 points if on Platinum.
We have already played 3 or 4 home cup games plus champs league that's 70/140. basically for 50 quid you are 260 points better off. and that's just home games.
I know in the grand scheme of things that is not a lot but it all adds up. I people agree pm Prestwich !!! no perhaps not, post it on here.
We laugh at the Rags for forcing their fans to buy League cup tickets even if they don't/can't go and yet we have this system. IT IS WRONG.

How about the club refunding all the Platinum money and reverting points back to the same as if on Gold!!
 
don't forget the cup schemes though too !
100 points for each,but double that if you're on platinum,so if you are on all 3
300 without platinum, 600 if u r , with your season ticket points its 490 or 980 .

You correct and take it you agree with me. It is time it was scrapped.
 
I think I can comment on this from quite a unique period, as I would guess (very tentatively - but please, correct me if I am wrong) that I have one of, if not, the highest amount of loyalty points for my age. I currently have circa 19,000 and I'm in my second year at University, so 19.

I have been lucky on three counts. Firstly, that I started attending week-in-week-out only shortly after the loyalty point system was implanted (circa 2004/05); but I also had a season ticket during the last season or two at Maine Road (no idea why my Dad did that). Secondly, that I was able to exploit the child method (in that my Dad could always get me a ticket, even when I didn't qualify - not that that usually occurred in the early days). Thirdly, that I had a parent willing to take me every week. Therefore, I'm in the privileged situation where I can near enough qualify for every away game - even Burton (though I doubt I would have, if the game actually had anything riding on it).

It's easy for me to say, but I believe the current system based around loyalty points is probably the fairest one we can implement. Of course, there are some issues that need to be rectified: corporate queue jumping, points whores, the number of points allocated and maybe the issue of younger fans unable to catch up. I know a number of lads my age, who weren't as lucky as me (for the reasons stated above), and so have nowhere near the number of points I have - yet they still attend most weeks. They, evidently, exploit the current Supporters Club and Ticket Exchange sites in order to get into away games. I would wager the majority of younger (let's say teens/young adults) that you see at away games procure tickets via this method; so that would be a sizeable chunk. I think the City Matters proposal for a small number of tickets siphoned off for younger fans may be a good idea, providing they come from the Corporate section. I don't really have a vested interest in this, as I don't often attend with people my age, and if anything it may serve to my detriment in allowing fans my age to catch up with me - though, if they attend the matches, that is what should happen anyway.

I often see a ballot mentioned, such as the one they use over at the Death Star, put forward as a way to make things fair. However, knowing a number of match going Reds, it is always the same faces who get tickets in the ballot - I imagine such a system would be implanted if City ever had a ballot. My mum is actually a case in point. She followed United away in the 1990s (before my Dad cleansed her heresy) and got tickets most weeks in the ballot because her and her sister were a 'positive' group to be seen at away matches.

Of course, any discussion on away tickets is by nature going to be one impinged by vested interest. But at the end of the day, all we want to do is watch our beloved Blues across any hamlet (Burton), town (Huddersfield), city (Newcastle), another country (Schalke), or even a post-industrial shithole (Liverpool). Any system that can make procuring tickets as fair as possible should be supported; I believe with reform, the current system is that one, but recent trends towards corporate encroachment need to be rebuked.
 
I’m not being funny it’s not physically possible for young people to ever legitimately get away tickets. Say the average fan starts at 10 and gets 300 points a season (generous).

300 x 20 = 6,000 points
So after watching every city premier league home game for 20 years they have 6k points.

The average premier league away sells out on about 15,000 points.

So after 50 years being a season ticket holder (at the age of 60) they have the points to go to some games.

No wonder our away atmosphere is getting worse; they’re ancient.
 
I’m not being funny it’s not physically possible for young people to ever legitimately get away tickets. Say the average fan starts at 10 and gets 300 points a season (generous).

300 x 20 = 6,000 points
So after watching every city premier league home game for 20 years they have 6k points.

The average premier league away sells out on about 15,000 points.

So after 50 years being a season ticket holder (at the age of 60) they have the points to go to some games.

No wonder our away atmosphere is getting worse; they’re ancient.
The major way to accumulate points is in renewing your season ticket and cup schemes. If I am right, that gives an individual circa 800ish, I believe.
 
So for a 3000 allocation, ie a big game:
  • 500 in a ballot
  • 250 for the under privileged 16-25 year olds
  • 450 to hospitality to send out
  • 150 for the players to give the wife
  • 600 for the Supporters Club to give to someone who buys travel with them
Leaving 1050, just over a third of the tickets available, to the people who regularly go, who everyone deems to be points whores. I’d also like to say that these independent City fans make up over 80% of our current home crowds and you want them to be allocated 35% of the tickets.

Maybe 500 is a bit too many but I think the current system isn't particularly good. I'm lucky that I can always get one but I still think something should change with it. It won't though because as we know the club don't really give a fuck about the working class local fanbase.
 
I think I can comment on this from quite a unique period, as I would guess (very tentatively - but please, correct me if I am wrong) that I have one of, if not, the highest amount of loyalty points for my age. I currently have circa 19,000 and I'm in my second year at University, so 19.

I have been lucky on three counts. Firstly, that I started attending week-in-week-out only shortly after the loyalty point system was implanted (circa 2004/05); but I also had a season ticket during the last season or two at Maine Road (no idea why my Dad did that). Secondly, that I was able to exploit the child method (in that my Dad could always get me a ticket, even when I didn't qualify - not that that usually occurred in the early days). Thirdly, that I had a parent willing to take me every week. Therefore, I'm in the privileged situation where I can near enough qualify for every away game - even Burton (though I doubt I would have, if the game actually had anything riding on it).

It's easy for me to say, but I believe the current system based around loyalty points is probably the fairest one we can implement. Of course, there are some issues that need to be rectified: corporate queue jumping, points whores, the number of points allocated and maybe the issue of younger fans unable to catch up. I know a number of lads my age, who weren't as lucky as me (for the reasons stated above), and so have nowhere near the number of points I have - yet they still attend most weeks. They, evidently, exploit the current Supporters Club and Ticket Exchange sites in order to get into away games. I would wager the majority of younger (let's say teens/young adults) that you see at away games procure tickets via this method; so that would be a sizeable chunk. I think the City Matters proposal for a small number of tickets siphoned off for younger fans may be a good idea, providing they come from the Corporate section. I don't really have a vested interest in this, as I don't often attend with people my age, and if anything it may serve to my detriment in allowing fans my age to catch up with me - though, if they attend the matches, that is what should happen anyway.

I often see a ballot mentioned, such as the one they use over at the Death Star, put forward as a way to make things fair. However, knowing a number of match going Reds, it is always the same faces who get tickets in the ballot - I imagine such a system would be implanted if City ever had a ballot. My mum is actually a case in point. She followed United away in the 1990s (before my Dad cleansed her heresy) and got tickets most weeks in the ballot because her and her sister were a 'positive' group to be seen at away matches.

Of course, any discussion on away tickets is by nature going to be one impinged by vested interest. But at the end of the day, all we want to do is watch our beloved Blues across any hamlet (Burton), town (Huddersfield), city (Newcastle), another country (Schalke), or even a post-industrial shithole (Liverpool). Any system that can make procuring tickets as fair as possible should be supported; I believe with reform, the current system is that one, but recent trends towards corporate encroachment need to be rebuked.

Good post. My lad too is as priveledged as you due to my points have always been able to get him a ticket via the ‘pull through’ he’s 15 with 17k points and had a season ticket since he was 3. I accept I can’t do this from next year so hoping he will be in the bracket when he qualifies in his own right for most always, be a shame and very unfair if this is snatched away by reducing the allocation to us seasoncards holders who have put the miles in.And spent f###ing thousands getting him to this stage with always being platinum on all the cup schemes. Not to mention the money virgin trains and the other rail companies have had out of me
I know platinum, cup schemes etc is not right but we were forced into this by city so how can they stop it now?
Where were our corporate ‘friends’ when we were shit ?
 
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