Newcastle (a) post match thread

[Tricky_Trev]

The overlapping has been distinctly absent this season.

Nobody in their right mind would want Walker or Danilo/Delph overlapping anyway. It’s just going to concede possession and then leave us over-committed and exposed to the counter. So Pep would much rather leave the full backs in areas where they should be able to control the opposition (though Walker does his best to make it as difficult as possible). I agree with the lack of overlaps. What’s lacking is quick passing to draw the opposition out of position and quick diagonals to get one v ones for the wingers. Well, we try a lot of the diagonals but so often they are poorly executed or we are offside.

 

[inchy14]

WHY ?? We were shit tonight and I truly despair at the happy clappers who can see no problems.Its OK to beat teams from other divisions,but apart from the Dipper game,we have been pretty average in PL games.Huddersfield was average and Wolves in the end we won against 10 men.
Certainly not the team we were last year.
Tonight was a glorious opportunity to get within a point of Liverpool.We were shocking in every department tonight and if you think for one moment that Pep is a happy bunny then thats one of the fanny`s to wipe.

Who the fuck said Pep would be happy?

Where did i say i was happy?

I'm as pissed about last night as everyone else, we were utter shite from start to finish, piss poor passing, lack of movement, lethargic and no intensity.

But if anyone thinks that the title is over with 14 games to go then they need to get a grip.

We desperately lack a natural left back, i'd buy someone tomorrow if possible, Danilo keeps cutting in which upsets our balance, walker is having a torrid time of late and for all the talk of how our best 3 central players are finally back together that didn't work either. Silva should have buried that chance at 1-0 and it'd be a different story this morning but he didn't.

 

[come-on-barney]

I had to laugh at the pre-match thread. Predictions of 3,4 and I even saw 7! Gutted as everyone else but that’s why a lot of us will always have our doubts about a game. ‘Typical city’ will never go away its with us forever :). That type of performance last night where the whole side and manager never turned up was a little different to some other defeats. Palace we were still pushing hard to get back in the game. Last night the passion just didn’t seem there from anyone. A number of us have said for a few weeks now, Pep has not been as energetic on the touch line and is often just slumped in his seat. Don’t know if this is frustration at a lack of player acquisitions or what. All very frustrating last night and the young ones will think the world has ended! We are going to need to spend big in the summer, as all rivals will and we can’t afford to get left behind. So many positions need replacing that’s the issue, so we might need to bring some youngsters through as well. But you know what this is where are at our best as fans with our backs to the wall. Let’s get behind the lads on Sunday, we have plenty to play for this season and hopefully normal service will be resumed.

 

[SamBlue]

Klopp was asked in October/November (I think) who can beat City to the title and he said something like it is only City that can beat themselves. And it's exactly what we've been doing in the past two months .We've had three carbon-copy losses in the last 6 weeks and I have no clue how Pep addresses this problem, which is huge in my opinion. It is one thing to lose the game to a better team, but to lose to mediocre sides after controlling the games for 75-80% times is like we are lobotomised mid-game. In the hindsight, those last 10 minutes against Watford away were the precursor of things to come.

 

[Franknorgrovesnephew]

I had to laugh at the pre-match thread. Predictions of 3,4 and I even saw 7! Gutted as everyone else but that’s why a lot of us will always have our doubts about a game. ‘Typical city’ will never go away its with us forever :). That type of performance last night where the whole side and manager never turned up was a little different to some other defeats. Palace we were still pushing hard to get back in the game. Last night the passion just didn’t seem there from anyone. A number of us have said for a few weeks now, Pep has not been as energetic on the touch line and is often just slumped in his seat. Don’t know if this is frustration at a lack of player acquisitions or what. All very frustrating last night and the young ones will think the world has ended! We are going to need to spend big in the summer, as all rivals will and we can’t afford to get left behind. So many positions need replacing that’s the issue, so we might need to bring some youngsters through as well. But you know what this is where are at our best as fans with our backs to the wall. Let’s get behind the lads on Sunday, we have plenty to play for this season and hopefully normal service will be resumed.

well said that man

 

[come-on-barney]

Toughest day to be a blue in a long time

That’s got to be a wind up surely?

 

[Josh_D]

I had to laugh at the pre-match thread. Predictions of 3,4 and I even saw 7! Gutted as everyone else but that’s why a lot of us will always have our doubts about a game. ‘Typical city’ will never go away its with us forever :). That type of performance last night where the whole side and manager never turned up was a little different to some other defeats. Palace we were still pushing hard to get back in the game. Last night the passion just didn’t seem there from anyone. A number of us have said for a few weeks now, Pep has not been as energetic on the touch line and is often just slumped in his seat. Don’t know if this is frustration at a lack of player acquisitions or what. All very frustrating last night and the young ones will think the world has ended! We are going to need to spend big in the summer, as all rivals will and we can’t afford to get left behind. So many positions need replacing that’s the issue, so we might need to bring some youngsters through as well. But you know what this is where are at our best as fans with our backs to the wall. Let’s get behind the lads on Sunday, we have plenty to play for this season and hopefully normal service will be resumed.

Well put. I think the game on Sunday just became harder because of this loss. Arsenal have somewhat played with fear against us (not closing down as much, or tackling) knowing that they may get embarrassed. This loss will give them a spring in their step which may make the game harder. Only thing fans can do now is push them on. Support till the end. If the fans don’t, who will?

 

[bluemc1]

That’s got to be a wind up surely?

No, I’ve not woken up this pissed off with football for quite a while

 

[Bill]

Yes, there is something in that. We could see it again last night. The players are all clearly agendaists. It’s unsurprising really, given the shit they’ve had to put up with, all the Sterling penalties not given, the amount of times they’ve each been hacked down with the decision being either “no foul”, or “not even a yellow”. It’s like it’s got to them and they almost concede to it.

I posted last night that they sulk. Must say though they must get sick of it. We get nothing and i mean nothing from any official, thats fine we dont want or need their help we are not the dippers, but we deserve a level playing field. Ok lets say the ref was right to disallow that goal (cheating ****) to then give a card was disgraceful changed kev's game completely, hes a dynamic player and was at risk of a red from that moment on. So just when we need him we have to take him off. A clear agenda move if ever i saw one.you can bet your life had that episode been for ANY other club not only would the goal have stood the media would be all over it as genius. Thats why our lads lose faith, they know we are being got at and their efforts are wasted, and that includes Pep and any likely transfer targets.

 

[onceabluealways]

Laporte

I said a good game not average, even he gave it away a few times

 

[balotellishaircut]

Klopp was asked in October/November (I think) who can beat City to the title and he said something like it is only City that can beat themselves. And it's exactly what we've been doing in the past two months .We've had three carbon-copy losses in the last 6 weeks and I have no clue how Pep addresses this problem, which is huge in my opinion. It is one thing to lose the game to a better team, but to lose to mediocre sides after controlling the games for 75-80% times is like we are lobotomised mid-game. In the hindsight, those last 10 minutes against Watford away were the precursor of things to come.

Pep gets £15m per year to find solutions to our teams problems, if I was at the club I'd tell Pep it's ok to win 1-0, and more importantly it's ok to play on the counter.

 

[come-on-barney]

No, I’ve not woken up this pissed off with football for quite a while

Understand the disappointment of last night but second in the league, group stages of the CL, in one cup final and in the fifth round of the FA cup. It’s never been a better time to be a blue. Keep the faith, we will back for our title next year if we don’t win it this year!

 

[Franknorgrovesnephew]

God woke up feeling like I've had a death in the family but what's done is done move on we have a hell ov a lot to play for still and city wouldn't be city if we didn't do that last night.come on city.

 

[Terrycooke]

Keep seeing everyone complaint about the goal disallowed. Unfortunately I was unable to watch so only had big noses updates on sky sports. Even he was saying it was a joke it was disallowed but later confessed the ref said to KDB either don’t take it or wait to the whistle. If that’s the case and he took it why are people moaning?

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Waited until this morning to post, I still have don't know what the fuck happened last night to a team that was flying, did someone's dog die.

Flying if you look at stats against fodder who'd given up before kick off.
Slightly unfair - but look what happens when we meet well organised resilience.
Liverpool was an incredible game but we had to give everthing we had against a team that played nothing more than well. Papered over our issues this season.

 

[badaz52]

I feel what we saw in last nights game was not a lack of desire but simply tiredness and maybe a touch of arrogance. We are still coming off the back of a busy christmas period of football where the likes of Silva and Fernandinho who are both over 30 have played a lot of football, Sergio too. What shocked me was that if we hadn't scored so early I actually believe we would have won the game, the early goal seemed to re-affirm something in the players that they were playing Rotheram or Burton again and it would be a walk in the park, its only 15th placed Newcastle. When Newcastle came at us after the break we didn't know what to do and were looking leggy. Sane and Sterling were full of beans early on and were trying to make things happen but no one was supporting them particularly well.

If its tiredness then there isn't much you can do but one critic I have despite Pep's winning mentality and wanting 100% every game is did we really need to bust a gut against Burton, Rotherham and Burnley most recently to score as many goals as possible? Dinho shouldn't have started last night not when he played against Burnley and that was the difference, Silva struggled too. De Bruyne was our best midfield outlet but when he had to come off for fear of getting sent off the writing was on the wall for me, we were not going to win this game.

 

[feelymcfeel]

I'm not that arsed about getting beat, and I'm not that arsed that we might not win the league - I've seen enough of both of those that neither phases me.

What I am arsed about is that it could be those bottom feeders from the other end of the East Lancs Road that win it. They're unbearable scum at the absolute best of times and the media circle jerk all over them is sickening; I'm dreading May because I can imagine what it might be like.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Keep seeing everyone complaint about the goal disallowed. Unfortunately I was unable to watch so only had big noses updates on sky sports. Even he was saying it was a joke it was disallowed but later confessed the ref said to KDB either don’t take it or wait to the whistle. If that’s the case and he took it why are people moaning?

The goal was rightfully disallowed. Although I completely disagree that the team taking the kick should wait for the ref. The fact of the matter is the ref told him to wait and he didn’t - we can’t really complain about that

City player slowly and every time we play slowly we look shit

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

I feel what we saw in last nights game was not a lack of desire but simply tiredness and maybe a touch of arrogance. We are still coming off the back of a busy christmas period of football where the likes of Silva and Fernandinho who are both over 30 have played a lot of football, Sergio too. What shocked me was that if we hadn't scored so early I actually believe we would have won the game, the early goal seemed to re-affirm something in the players that they were playing Rotheram or Burton again and it would be a walk in the park, its only 15th placed Newcastle. When Newcastle came at us after the break we didn't know what to do and were looking leggy. Sane and Sterling were full of beans early on and were trying to make things happen but no one was supporting them particularly well.

If its tiredness then there isn't much you can do but one critic I have despite Pep's winning mentality and wanting 100% every game is did we really need to bust a gut against Burton, Rotherham and Burnley most recently to score as many goals as possible? Dinho shouldn't have started last night not when he played against Burnley and that was the difference, Silva struggled too. De Bruyne was our best midfield outlet but when he had to come off for fear of getting sent off the writing was on the wall for me, we were not going to win this game.

I agree with most of what you say, but those absolutely weren't the matches I saw. I didn't think we were doing anything to bust a gut. On the contrary, we were coasting, and pretty much scoring goals when we felt like it. That may, indeed, be part of the problem. We've been lulled into a torpor by the quality of the opposition we've been playing. When we do come up against a team that are busting a gut – as Newcastle, last night – we needed to raise our game to the equivalent level. Instead, we carried on playing in the torpor of those matches.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Although I didn't expect last night's 'performance' the fact is we have been well below last seasons standards for months and even before our recent semi-collapse. Half arsed, strolling around play from far too many, the whole team seemingly stopping playing when we get in front and a mass loss of form have combined to create a perfect storm.

The league may have gone but there is still time to make sure the season isn't a complete non-event. However, there needs to be some hunger and desire shown in order for that to happen & Pep needs to show that he won't accept what the squad is currently delivering.