bluwes
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Same reason rags were awarded a pen against PSG. They will not allow either of us to win it
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Var debate 2019/20
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Same reason rags were awarded a pen against PSG. They will not allow either of us to win it
there mosty certainly was-hit his forearm and deflected onto his hip and into the goal.Yes. There was nothing wrong with it. He's scored with his hip not his hand/arm, there was no hand ball there for me.
You’re killing me, as many of you are tonight. It hit his elbow, clear as day. Illegal part of the body and didn’t hit any other part before it went in.
How many replays do you need to see before you realise it hit his hip then went in not of his elbow?
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Thaksinssoldier
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You’re killing me, as many of you are tonight. It hit his elbow, clear as day. Illegal part of the body and didn’t hit any other part before it went in.
Just accept you are wrong and you may sleep a little easier tonight.
If we scored it would you want it disallowed or is VAR only supposed to help us?
Manchester_lalala
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Llorente gained an advantage by using his hand intentionally or not, it’s irrelevant. By UEFA’s new standards issued straight after the Otamendi handball against Shalke, any ball that hits a hand that gains an advantage is considered handball. The fact is we were shafted for at least the 4th year running by UEFA and their officials, whether it’s the blatant match fixing of the Liverpool games last year or the ‘conveniently forgetting’ to show the referee the angle which proves beyond any shadow of a doubt Llorente gained an advantage with his hand this year.
The fact it’s so predictable, read my posts back and you’ll see I told you all what would happen at the start of the Champions League campaign with the officials deciding our destiny. I made the decision to not attend Champions League games like I know a lot of other City fans did and this is why. Bent as fuck.
Oh and the Aguero offside replays are stopped before the ball leaves Bernardo, run that a split second on, he’s not offside.
This, this, this.
Without hitting his elbow, it probably wouldn’t have gone in. That is beside the point, anyway, it still hit his elbow!
Ah fuck it, were out. Tired of arguing.
Metalartin
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Forearm to hip... not the other way around... important distinction. The letter of the law says it shouldn't have stood. End of.Yes it did. It hit his fucking hip!
If VAR wasn't in place there'd be less reason to grumble(we had one vs Spurs last season was it?) but it's inexcusable that was given with the technology now in place.
It was very strange watching him watching the same angle over and over again.Var is joke if the referee doesn't get a replay of every angle!? There is no point whatsoever with var if thats the case.
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Just seen the replay the referee didn’t get to see,defo hits is arm No goal.
You mean like the one given against Otamendi? He’s attacked the ball and it’s rolled from his arm to his hip to allow a goal. That’s very different to a player standing still to block a shot.So presumably if it had hit Kompany’s arm like that you’d want a penalty awarded against us?
burning blue soul
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It hit his thigh after 1st hitting his elbow.You’re killing me, as many of you are tonight. It hit his elbow, clear as day. Illegal part of the body and didn’t hit any other part before it went in.
Manchester_lalala
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Yes it did. It hit his fucking hip!
Other angles showed it didn’t, elbow and straight in. Either way, it’s still handball.
there mosty certainly was-hit his forearm and deflected onto his hip and into the goal.
There's no intention to deliberately use his arm. It's a non issue for me.
If you think that hit Llorente’s chest you need to go for a lie down sunshine.No handball imo. Has to be intentional or hand has to be in position like way outside, in the air or similar like Rose penalty, or Kimpembe or even Otamendi vs Schalke.
This was pure unlucky that it hit his arm, then his chest and found the net. Pure fucking unlucky situation except we should have fucking cleared it before it got to him. Why was there enough space between defender and Llorrente for the ball to be able to hit him around his chest? We should have been much closer to him especially given his height.
Awful defensive mistake again. Got punished. Kompany WTF is he doing there? He was front of Llorente he even touched the ball wih his shoulder it should have been a simple header.
Allnightlong
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There's no intention to deliberately use his arm. It's a non issue for me.
Otto didn't intentionally handball it a couple of games back but it was given as handball.
It was hand ball tonight
Forearm to hip... not the other way around... important distinction. The letter of the law says it shouldn't have stood. End of.
If VAR wasn't in place there'd be less reason to grumble(we had one vs Spurs last season was it?) but it's inexcusable that was given with the technology now in place.
The letter of the law literally says the opposite.
johnmc
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Next year we could have an argument regarding the handball. Not this year.
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How many replays do you need to see before you realise it hit his hip then wen in not hit elbow?
How many replays do YOU need to see.?The evidence is there.
Forearm - THEN hip, then NET :(
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Point out where it says deliberate for me please?It says “deliberate” which I interpret as intent.
That wasn’t a deliberate handball and once the emotions die down most sensible people will accept it
Other angles showed it didn’t, elbow and straight in. Either way, it’s still handball.
It 100% hit his hip after his elbow. There’s no debate about it. And by the letter of the law it has to be intentional. The ref reviewed it and deemed it not.
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Nope I will think you will find you are wrong there. It does not.The letter of the law literally says the opposite.
This was cleared up on the Wily Boly goal this season. The offside rule defines which parts of the body can be used... and which part of the body is the only part you cant be offside with?