Game of Thrones (season 8)

Plain Speaking said:
What about Bran's prediction "he will come for me"? Bran seems to be able to read the future.

(Maybe there's time for the night king to fly to attack Kings Landing then come back for Bran?)

I assumed the end of series final Battle would be at Kings Landing between Cersei/Golden company and the mostly human survivors from the first Battle.

It would really surprise me if the undead won the Winterfell battle but it is GoT, you never know?

I suppose it depends on whether the story is fundementally about different human factions struggling to rule the iron throne or humans struggling just to survive?
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I think the Night King is aware that going for Bran at all will leave him wide open to any assassin attack. It's better for him to completely conquer Westeros, make an army that's about a million strong, and then go for Bran once there's nobody left to protect him.
 
Plain Speaking said:
What about Bran's prediction "he will come for me"? Bran seems to be able to read the future.

(Maybe there's time for the night king to fly to attack Kings Landing then come back for Bran?)

I assumed the end of series final Battle would be at Kings Landing between Cersei/Golden company and the mostly human survivors from the first Battle.

It would really surprise me if the undead won the Winterfell battle but it is GoT, you never know?

I suppose it depends on whether the story is fundementally about different human factions struggling to rule the iron throne or humans struggling just to survive?
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I think the night king will attack kings landing and take it and Cersei will get killed whilst the North will win their battle. If Cersei gets killed then doesn't that mean Jaime or even Tyrion is king?? One of them will have to then kneel to Jon.... After that they'll have to work out how to kill the night king.

Lots to come yet and god knows what will happen, I don't think we'll find out too much though until the fourth episode. The next one is pretty much as expected to be a big battle and probably as always with GoT, a twist at the end.

Judging on what the producers have said they'll all just get killed and that will be that!
 
Not sure I buy the Night King attacking King's Landing. There are a few character arcs there that don't quite seem complete, so quickly turning them into the undead seems a waste. I would imagine he's come to the same conclusion that those defending Winterfell have, and he doesn't want to risk himself in battle (he hardly has an army that would refuse to fight for him).
 
7evens said:
I think the Night King is aware that going for Bran at all will leave him wide open to any assassin attack. It's better for him to completely conquer Westeros, make an army that's about a million strong, and then go for Bran once there's nobody left to protect him.
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I wondered if Arya was going to disguise herself as a White walker, to use her new weapon, hence her questioning Gendry, what they looked like and what they smelled like. We have had 2/6 episodes already if you assume, battles are another 2 episodes, (one for Winterfell one for Kings Landing), it doesn't leave much time in this final season.

Edit: The person who directed "Hardhome" and "Battle of the B******s" is directing episodes 3 and 5 of this season, (Miguel Sapochnik), you would expect episode 4 to be the aftermath of the battle of Winterfell and prelude to the Kings Landing battle. Last episode to be winding up all loose ends.
 
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Plain Speaking said:
I wondered if Arya was going to disguise herself as a White walker, to use her new weapon, hence her questioning Gendry, what they looked like and what they smelled like. We have had 2/6 episodes already if you assume, battles are another 2 episodes, (one for Winterfell one for Kings Landing), it doesn't leave much time in this final season.

Edit: The person who directed "Hardhome" and "Battle of the B******s" is directing episodes 3 and 5 of this season, (Miguel Sapochnik), you would expect episode 4 to be the aftermath of the battle of Winterfell and prelude to the Kings Landing battle. Last episode to be winding up all loose ends.
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Episodes 4 and 6 could just be the Night King and his army mopping up stragglers after winning both battles?
 
Plain Speaking said:
It would really surprise me if the undead won the Winterfell battle but it is GoT, you never know?
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I think it's setup for the undead to take Winterfell. Some of these characters are going to get culled. The whole series has essentially lead to this moment, so I can't see John Snow simply beating them in one episode before happily going down to Kings Landing and killing Cersei. It's just not in the nature of Game of Thrones to follow the predictable path.


Remember Yara Greyjoy's offer of retreating to Pyke? It's given the writers a path to go down that includes the loss of Winterfell, but still allowing John/Khaleesi the chance to sit on the iron throne?
 
Manchester33 said:
I think it's setup for the undead to take Winterfell. Some of these characters are going to get culled. The whole series has essentially lead to this moment, so I can't see John Snow simply beating them in one episode before happily going down to Kings Landing and killing Cersei. It's just not in the nature of Game of Thrones to follow the predictable path.


Remember Yara Greyjoy's offer of retreating to Pyke? It's given the writers a path to go down that includes the loss of Winterfell, but still allowing John/Khaleesi the chance to sit on the iron throne?
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I take your point about the unpredictability of GoT but if the army at Winterfell can't stop the army of the dead, (with their dragon glass weapons, special steel swords, dragons, Arya etc), then it gets very messy, and I don't think there's enough air time for complicated scenarios. We've already had 2 of 6 episodes!
We will see? Looking forward to it, whatever happens ;-)
 
I think it's certainly set up for the dead to take winterfell, and it'll be an inside job.

You'll be safe in the crypts, yeah right!

Crypts are the least safe bit in the place, what with a night king with the power to reanimate. I'd certainly not be hiding out down there for love nor money.
 
bluetonium said:
I think it's certainly set up for the dead to take winterfell, and it'll be an inside job.

You'll be safe in the crypts, yeah right!

Crypts are the least safe bit in the place, what with a night king with the power to reanimate. I'd certainly not be hiding out down there for love nor money.
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A big red herring imho

I am sure wights are not all the undead, bit more the recently undead, hence why they are no skeleton ones as they need sinew still to keep together, and bar rickon and possibly ned most starks are dust or bones by now
 
Prophecy plays a huge part in asoiaf.

Probably all been discussed here already.

This is not the shadow of Drogon or Rhaegal arriving at King's Landing that Bran saw, but the Night King riding Viserion whilst his army lays siege to Winterfell.

There is no Valyrian steel or dragon glass at King's Landing. They are fucked.

The Night King will obliterate King's Landing with dragon fire and will raise the 500,000 strong population to fight in his army.

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He will then march his army north.

Winterfell will be succesfully defended in Episode 3.

The final battle between the living and the dead will take place at the Trident;

That night she dreamt she was Rhaegar, riding to the Trident. But she was mounted on a dragon, not a horse. When she saw the Usurper’s rebel host across the river they were armored all in ice, but she bathed them in dragonfire and they melted away like dew and turned the Trident into a torrent. Some small part of her knew that she was dreaming, but another part exulted. This is how it was meant to be. The other was a nightmare, and I have only now awakened.[5]
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In the books, it is heavily foreshadowed that Jon is the legendary hero, Azor Ahai, born again;

Melisandre - I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow
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When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone.
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Jon was born under the bloody and legendary sword of Ser Arthur Dayne, Dawn, which has a red star on the pommel;

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In ASOIAF legend;

thousands of years ago, he forged the sword Lightbringer which he used to defeat the darkness of the Great Other. This came at a price, however, as in order to unleash the sword's true powers he had to plunge it into the heart of his loving wife, Nissa Nissa.
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Now that Dany and Jon are in love and Dany is clearly a tyrant, I think it is sadly obvious that Jon is going to stab her through the heart with Longclaw, which will become the mythical sword Lightbringer. Jon will defeat the Night King and the army of the dead. But not without cost.

death itself will bend its knee, and all those who die fighting in her cause shall be reborn ...
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The dead shall be reborn. I believe Jon will end up as a Night King. I don't know how, or why. The Starks have the blood of the first men, and shared land with the Children of the Forest. Jon is half Stark. He's going to make the ultimate sacrifice for the realm as he has sacrificed himself throughout the entire series.

The throne I think may go to a legitimised Gendry Baratheon and his eventual queen, Arya Stark.

I also believe Cersei will escape the burning of King's Landing and will flee but before this season is over, Jamie will strangle her to death.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
Prophecy plays a huge part in asoiaf.

Probably all been discussed here already.

This is not the shadow of Drogon or Rhaegal arriving at King's Landing that Bran saw, but the Night King riding Viserion whilst his army lays siege to Winterfell.

There is no Valyrian steel or dragon glass at King's Landing. They are fucked.

The Night King will obliterate King's Landing with dragon fire and will raise the 500,000 strong population to fight in his army.

image


He will then march his army north.

Winterfell will be succesfully defended in Episode 3.

The final battle between the living and the dead will take place at the Trident;



In the books, it is heavily foreshadowed that Jon is the legendary hero, Azor Ahai, born again;





Jon was born under the bloody and legendary sword of Ser Arthur Dayne, Dawn, which has a red star on the pommel;

bleeding-star.png


In ASOIAF legend;



Now that Dany and Jon are in love and Dany is clearly a tyrant, I think it is sadly obvious that Jon is going to stab her through the heart with Longclaw, which will become the mythical sword Lightbringer. Jon will defeat the Night King and the army of the dead. But not without cost.



The dead shall be reborn. I believe Jon will end up as a Night King. I don't know how, or why. The Starks have the blood of the first men, and shared land with the Children of the Forest. Jon is half Stark. He's going to make the ultimate sacrifice for the realm as he has sacrificed himself throughout the entire series.

The throne I think may go to a legitimised Gendry Baratheon and his eventual queen, Arya Stark.

I also believe Cersei will escape the burning of King's Landing and will flee but before this season is over, Jamie will strangle her to death.
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Just remember, the king of the nazgul got stabbed from behind by an injured hobbit.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
Prophecy plays a huge part in asoiaf.

Probably all been discussed here already.

This is not the shadow of Drogon or Rhaegal arriving at King's Landing that Bran saw, but the Night King riding Viserion whilst his army lays siege to Winterfell.

There is no Valyrian steel or dragon glass at King's Landing. They are fucked.

The Night King will obliterate King's Landing with dragon fire and will raise the 500,000 strong population to fight in his army.

image


He will then march his army north.

Winterfell will be succesfully defended in Episode 3.

The final battle between the living and the dead will take place at the Trident;



In the books, it is heavily foreshadowed that Jon is the legendary hero, Azor Ahai, born again;





Jon was born under the bloody and legendary sword of Ser Arthur Dayne, Dawn, which has a red star on the pommel;

bleeding-star.png


In ASOIAF legend;



Now that Dany and Jon are in love and Dany is clearly a tyrant, I think it is sadly obvious that Jon is going to stab her through the heart with Longclaw, which will become the mythical sword Lightbringer. Jon will defeat the Night King and the army of the dead. But not without cost.



The dead shall be reborn. I believe Jon will end up as a Night King. I don't know how, or why. The Starks have the blood of the first men, and shared land with the Children of the Forest. Jon is half Stark. He's going to make the ultimate sacrifice for the realm as he has sacrificed himself throughout the entire series.

The throne I think may go to a legitimised Gendry Baratheon and his eventual queen, Arya Stark.

I also believe Cersei will escape the burning of King's Landing and will flee but before this season is over, Jamie will strangle her to death.
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Nice theory, wish it could be that way, but Game of Thrones has never done anything at the Trident so they won't finish it there. It'll finish at King's Landing because that's a location show-watchers know. Instead of introducing viewers to a whole new battlefield and location, they'll use the dragonpit / Red Keep instead. It's the same reason they didn't suddenly reintroduce the Horn of Winter when the Night King had mobilised a large enough army to pass through the Wall, and decided to use a dragon instead. Why introduce a new element to the story this late in the day when they've got no time to establish its historical importance?
 
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