Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[JGL07]

They have tiled walls, they also have their own micro brewery and a lovely glass facade. Great. I don't really crave a tiled wall at a football stadium when I go to the loo, it's just not that important. Spurs have taken on a large amount of debt for this, so it remains to be seen what happens to them over the next few seasons. Still nowhere near winning a trophy.

Could Levy organise a piss-up it?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Agree with everything except the space on the concourse. It was really cramped in the 30 mins before kick off and at half time. Our bottom tier has much more space, but theirs was really disappointing in comparison to say Arsenal or Wembley..

The number of catering staff and therefore speed of service was excellent though.

Running out of beer at halftime in a stadium that cost £1bn and has its own brewery is frankly unacceptable though!

We've run out of chips once during a match and twice during concerts. Oh and we have never run out of beer because the service is so piss poor you'd have to start queueing for a half-time beer 25 mins before half-time to even get close to selling out.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

We've run out of chips once during a match and twice during concerts. Oh and we have never run out of beer because the service is so piss poor you'd have to start queueing for a half-time beer 25 mins before half time to even get close to selling out.

We ran out of beer for the 2011 FA Cup win celebration mate. I won’t hold it against the Club 8 years later lol

 

[Gordyola]

From what's been said by those that know better than me when all 4 sides are done the cable net can be removed, don't think a 4th tier has been suggested it seemed to be bringing the sides up to the level of the 2 ends on the images that have been posted.

Still a big project to remove the existing roof and build a new one and what does that achieve? How would it generate additional income to justify the ROI?

 

[blueparrot]

Still a big project to remove the existing roof and build a new one and what does that achieve? How would it generate additional income to justify the ROI?

Yes it is a big project but seems to be the plan over the next decade so those paying for it must think it’s justified. For now I’d be happy just to move on to the North stand.

 

[nmc]

Still a big project to remove the existing roof and build a new one and what does that achieve? How would it generate additional income to justify the ROI?

I think someone on here - who’s in the know said the present roof is fucked - they may have used a more eloquent term! So it maybe that the roof needs to be replaced in any case. Expect the scoreboards to stop working next season a la the old Maine Road North Stand.

 

[worsleyweb]

I think someone on here - who’s in the know said the present roof is fucked - they may have used a more eloquent term! So it maybe that the roof needs to be replaced in any case. Expect the scoreboards to stop working next season a la the old Maine Road North Stand.

Think it was me. Yes it is fucked. There is plywood believe it or not in the sandwich layer of the roof build up. It is like a saturated mush.

 

[Fat Chance]

Still a big project to remove the existing roof and build a new one and what does that achieve? How would it generate additional income to justify the ROI?

Youve worded that ^ like we're planning to remove a full roof in one hit... ..

Presumably once the four sections are in place we'll achieve somewhere between 78 &82k with the noise created within being not so quick to escape

 

[Gordyola]

I think someone on here - who’s in the know said the present roof is fucked - they may have used a more eloquent term! So it maybe that the roof needs to be replaced in any case. Expect the scoreboards to stop working next season a la the old Maine Road North Stand.

Some wood used in the roof is rotting needs replacing IIRC

 

[Gordyola]

Youve worded that ^ like we're planning to remove a full roof in one hit... ..

Presumably once the four sections are in place we'll achieve somewhere between 78 &82k with the noise created within being not so quick to escape

My point was in answer to a poster who said they would replace the roof without the addition of an additional tier Obviously this wouldn’t increase the capacity
The roof is a monostucture in two parts the cladding element is secondary structural the cablenet system is primary The cablenet cannot be broken as long as any part of the roof is in place So if the west roof is replaced with a new one then it has to work around the current cablenet A new structure will need to be created to support the new roof, look at the south stand and the amount of steelwork. All very expensive without addressing some of the problems with a stadium built to a low cost without any thought of expansion Build a new icon stadium for the biggest and best club in the world not a make and mend job

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

We ran out of beer for the 2011 FA Cup win celebration mate. I won’t hold it against the Club 8 years later lol

I remember that. luckily i had a flask with buckfast in

 

[blueparrot]

My point was in answer to a poster who said they would replace the roof without the addition of an additional tier Obviously this wouldn’t increase the capacity

I said there won't be a 4th , new tier. The existing tier would be increased as the corners wouldn't be tapered with a new roof so the ends could be filled in,and a few rows could be added at the back as the new roof would, like the ends be built behind the existing one.

 

[Gordyola]

I said there won't be a 4th , new tier. The existing tier would be increased as the corners wouldn't be tapered with a new roof so the ends could be filled in,and a few rows could be added at the back as the new roof would, like the ends be built behind the existing one.

So where do the 4, yes the plan is 4, screens go?

Don't get me wrong I like the stadium, it's a brilliant design but built for a club where a 48K capacity was good enough and not one that couldn't easily be expanded.Adding additional tiers and seat rows at the front, improving the corporate areas and now talk of a new roof all at considerable expense, more than would be normal due to the constraints I mentioned. It's like a lottery winner loving his old Focus but trying to turn it into a Bentley Bentayga

Look at Spurs new stadium and the sliding pitch, we could do the same coupled with a roof that closes it converts to a massive indoor / outdoor arena, incorporate a covered City Square and store the possibilities when starting from scratch are endless. Have a facility that could be used more than 20 times a year. We have the space on the north car park so no disruption to fixtures the owners have the finance without the team being hamstrung

Tell me you would rather a cobled up CoMS than these examples https://www.theb1m.com/video/top-5-stadium-builds-by-2020 https://www.sportsmanagementdegreeh...ally-impressive-sports-stadiums-in-the-world/

 

[Fat Chance]

I doubt spurs have another £bill to splender the surrounding area, i think it was vincent who said when it's all done the ground will be by the by.

 

[blueparrot]

So where do the 4, yes the plan is 4, screens go?

Don't get me wrong I like the stadium, it's a brilliant design but built for a club where a 48K capacity was good enough and not one that couldn't easily be expanded.Adding additional tiers and seat rows at the front, improving the corporate areas and now talk of a new roof all at considerable expense, more than would be normal due to the constraints I mentioned. It's like a lottery winner loving his old Focus but trying to turn it into a Bentley Bentayga

Look at Spurs new stadium and the sliding pitch, we could do the same coupled with a roof that closes it converts to a massive indoor / outdoor arena, incorporate a covered City Square and store the possibilities when starting from scratch are endless. Have a facility that could be used more than 20 times a year. We have the space on the north car park so no disruption to fixtures the owners have the finance without the team being hamstrung

Tell me you would rather a cobled up CoMS than these examples https://www.theb1m.com/video/top-5-stadium-builds-by-2020 https://www.sportsmanagementdegreeh...ally-impressive-sports-stadiums-in-the-world/

I don't think anyone wouldn't like a new state of the art stadium, but it's been decided ages ago that's not happening and there is enough that can and will be done with the existing stadium to mean the stadium will be fine,I'm sure some of the images from when the south stand was done it had the new rooves and 4 screens and given a choice between Spurs and us I'd take a refurbished stadium and our team anytime.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I think someone on here - who’s in the know said the present roof is fucked - they may have used a more eloquent term! So it maybe that the roof needs to be replaced in any case. Expect the scoreboards to stop working next season a la the old Maine Road North Stand.

I’ve read that the original roof only had a 25 year lifespan and was structured with wood.

There are leaks everywhere in it and fucking filthy water drips on hundreds of people around the stadium.

 

[supercity88]

So where do the 4, yes the plan is 4, screens go?

Don't get me wrong I like the stadium, it's a brilliant design but built for a club where a 48K capacity was good enough and not one that couldn't easily be expanded.Adding additional tiers and seat rows at the front, improving the corporate areas and now talk of a new roof all at considerable expense, more than would be normal due to the constraints I mentioned. It's like a lottery winner loving his old Focus but trying to turn it into a Bentley Bentayga

Look at Spurs new stadium and the sliding pitch, we could do the same coupled with a roof that closes it converts to a massive indoor / outdoor arena, incorporate a covered City Square and store the possibilities when starting from scratch are endless. Have a facility that could be used more than 20 times a year. We have the space on the north car park so no disruption to fixtures the owners have the finance without the team being hamstrung

Tell me you would rather a cobled up CoMS than these examples https://www.theb1m.com/video/top-5-stadium-builds-by-2020 https://www.sportsmanagementdegreeh...ally-impressive-sports-stadiums-in-the-world/

The idea is that it will not be cobbled up. It will be a fully consodered design done in stages. And the car comparison is pointless. Compare it to renovating and expanding a house. Lots move into an older one and a bit of cladding or render, some internal improvements and it looks a million times better.

 

[Gordyola]

The idea is that it will not be cobbled up. It will be a fully consodered design done in stages. And the car comparison is pointless. Compare it to renovating and expanding a house. Lots move into an older one and a bit of cladding or render, some internal improvements and it looks a million times better.

Well the SS wasn’t a good start

 

[gkmcfc]

So where do the 4, yes the plan is 4, screens go?

Don't get me wrong I like the stadium, it's a brilliant design but built for a club where a 48K capacity was good enough and not one that couldn't easily be expanded.Adding additional tiers and seat rows at the front, improving the corporate areas and now talk of a new roof all at considerable expense, more than would be normal due to the constraints I mentioned. It's like a lottery winner loving his old Focus but trying to turn it into a Bentley Bentayga

Look at Spurs new stadium and the sliding pitch, we could do the same coupled with a roof that closes it converts to a massive indoor / outdoor arena, incorporate a covered City Square and store the possibilities when starting from scratch are endless. Have a facility that could be used more than 20 times a year. We have the space on the north car park so no disruption to fixtures the owners have the finance without the team being hamstrung

Tell me you would rather a cobled up CoMS than these examples https://www.theb1m.com/video/top-5-stadium-builds-by-2020 https://www.sportsmanagementdegreeh...ally-impressive-sports-stadiums-in-the-world/

Don't get me wrong if the club chose to do build their own purpose built stadium, I wouldn't object. Interestingly many of the stadia featured in the above links, like the Etihad, aren't built with potential future expansion in mind. If City were to take the radical step of building their own stadium they'd have to build something akin to holding 70-80000 so it is future proofed for generations to come.

 

[Gordyola]

Don't get me wrong if the club chose to do build their own purpose built stadium, I wouldn't object. Interestingly many of the stadia featured in the above links, like the Etihad, aren't built with potential future expansion in mind. If City were to take the radical step of building their own stadium they'd have to build something akin to holding 70-80000 so it is future proofed for generations to come.

Few are built with expansion in mind I doubt Spurs would need to expand NWHL and I would expect City would never need above 70K