UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Stoned Rose]

‘City comin’.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

There is a sporting exemption in the laws of most jurisdictions to take account of what would otherwise be cartel behaviour, so it's not quite the same thing as in normal business when it comes to anti-trust behaviour or similar. But nor is it a blank cheque.

Do I remember rightly or not , that after the Bosman ruling, uefa were told that the ‘football is different’ argument was not going to be accepted and that they were not above the rule of law, just because they thought that they were?

 

[waspish]

So the stolen emails is where uefa have got this so called information we mislead them?! REALLY?!

 

[nmc]

Tolmie, you always make me feel tingly inside.

Khaldoon’s interview should be conducted with a team of lawyers behind him, with him sat in a Bond villain-esque chair. Maybe some menacing intro music.

Not sure Khaldoon will be able to say much in the circumstances.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

I have a feeling that city are not commenting on lying about income because it’s not for us to disclose and any comment made in relation to it could fuck us over.

As far as we are concerned Etihad gave us that money, if uefa want info to where that money came from they need to ask Etihad. and I can’t imagine them getting past the secretary.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Not sure Khaldoon will be able to say much in the circumstances.

The look in his eyes will be enough for me.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Not sure Khaldoon will be able to say much in the circumstances.

He will repeat whatever has already been said . . . but it will make for great TV coming out of his mouth. We'll probably get a good GIF out of it.

 

[The blue phantom]

That didn't take the bald **** to long to say he thought we were guilty.

 

[nmc]

Yeah, that could cause a teensy weensy problem for them down the line when courts start asking why people are finding a club guilty before doing any investigation. Such things can lead to prosecutions for corruption.

The disclosure of emails from UEFA officials prior to legal proceedings could be priceless. I bet they have had us condemned for months and been busy congratulating each other on line

 

[Henkeman]

Do I remember rightly or not , that after the Bosman ruling, uefa were told that the ‘football is different’ argument was not going to be accepted and that they were not above the rule of law, just because they thought that they were?

Certainly not above the rule of law - anyone thinking that would be insane. But there are obvious examples within sport that do need exemptions to be allowed - for example collective bargaining on TV rights in any sport, which strictly speaking is a clear instance of cartel behaviour, but allowed because not doing so actually undermines the integrity of sporting competition.

 

[Silvas' left eyebrow]

Still a stupid idea,we support the team at ALL times and let the club take care of the rest

Wow that will show uefa your displeasure...turn up, fill the stadium and boo...that really worked well so far ,eh
Do you understand what protest means?

Your location says your between Zen and mad.....one suggests closer to mad !

Still lovely to hear from you.....

 

[razman]

Yeah but the thing is....

Lucky to have Peter Drury on our broadcast !

 

[mat]

First journalist I've seen who actually considers innocence is an option!

Some hopeful dippers on that thread.

 

[oakiecokie]

Yeah but the thing is....

I`d prefer to watch a UEFA OG !!

 

[SouthStandStander]

UEFA aren't even good at covering their tracks, the timeline of the announcement correlates with the NYT article, so the establishment of a leak from the process is now firmly rubber stamped.

We are going to have to be patient as a supporter base, the process will go well beyond CAS and eventually to personal lawsuits. Our good name be cleared completely.

The club could not have provided any clearer evidence of no wrongdoing. We know the fix is in, both chambers.

What I can say, this is about as personal as it gets and City will now be in good hands for the next 100 YEARS.

Wait to hear from Khaldoon next week, that's what I'll say.

When this is over, the pain will have been well worth it.

Im not sure he will allow questions on the matter to be honest as its not yet over

 

[Parisian]

This whole thing is a smear campaign driven by the old G14 clubs, I suspect that there are even elements in UEFA that are none too keen on it - note the reported comment by the Greek member of the IC that not everyone was in agreement on a punishment - but threats of a breakaway super league scare the shit out of them.

Of course. The whole thing is a playground where are confronted different lobbies.

In PSG probe, PSG were cleared, initially by the investigation chamber, of any wrongdoing by a very splitted decision 4 versus 3. However, there are some hardliners in this institution (or maybe they have been lobbied efficiently by the cartel) like Leterme or that portuguese european judge Jose Narciso da Cunha Rodrigues. It was him that decided to still send our case to the adjudicatory chamber for review. At the time, i remember that some guy in our parisian forum was saying that this judge is relentless in what he sees as a protection of european football that needs regulation.

I'm happy City is showing their anger and determination.

Btw, regarding the press leaks, i really don't think it is some kind of schemes. There used to be a lot of leaks in regards of PSG case that dragged for more than a year (and you have prolly heard more than one statement in the press in the whole year while UEFA couldn't make their decision known in the meantime).
We were not fussed about the leaks, but we (fans + club) were pretty unhappy that the UEFA was not communicating those decisions by themselves. Because, the club can defend himself when a decision is officially put out, not when there is only speculation. And since they were pushing back their decision every time, PSG couldn't predict the budget allowed for their window market. So, we thought it was their way to keep a sword of Damocles to prevent us from being competitive on the market (indirect sanction).

If it only goes to CAS, UEFA has nothing to lose, really. They do the same with PSG, Milan etc. They try and will try again. Nevertheless, City has no need to go all the way if CAS rules in their favor. Thus, their FFP scheme can still survive this incident with City.

 

[SilverFox2]

We may well do, but who is interested?. The media have a set of "human rights fat cats" in the dock caught cheating. It will depend on how just and independent the end process is. I feel sure UEFA will ban City. City will appeal, and this will drag on for ages.

You may well be right but it seems City have decided to let the world know how unjust this process is.
Perhaps they are too late to change the bias of the media but I wonder if the media generally will sacrifice a new story about say Liverpool or DisUnited simply to help their bias?

 

[kaz7]

Wow that will show uefa your displeasure...turn up, fill the stadium and boo...that really worked well so far ,eh
Do you understand what protest means?

Your location says your between Zen and mad.....one suggests closer to mad !

Still lovely to hear from you.....

Do you understand what a stupid idea means?

 

[pavelsrnicek]

I’d love to know what we’re actually charged with, the NYT are saying it’s misleading the investigators not actually breaching FFP.

Interesting timing, I thought it has happened this week due to the leaks. Wonder if it’s because today is the last day they can.

 

[Parisian]

Seriously lad, he is not a whistleblower.

The person has been caught and is presently in court for HACKING, for illegally hacking into our and others email accounts.

Again, not whistleblowing.

Also, he tried to blackmail some people. He tried to defend that fact by saying he was just trying to see how valuable that information was for those particular persons...