F1 thread - 2019 Season

The blue phantom said:
The season is already done, even this early.

Them helping Ferrari to a token win(which was still 50/50) means fuckall.

They will wait until there's constructor and driver's titles on the line.
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Your logic is absolutely mindboggling.
Mercedes have likely already won the constructors and wdc so if the FIA do love Ferrari as much as you proclaim, why bother penalising Vettel?
Seems like you're just applying logic of an organisation being bent to suit you when you do please?
 
Reminds me a bit like City does our Lewis, Clearly one of, if not, the greatest driver ever to have got behind the wheel.

Gets absolutely nowhere fuckin near the credit he deserves. He's just had a crowd booing him on the podium when he should of been celebrating, walked off disappointed.

In fact he's just said he feels deflated.
 
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The blue phantom said:
Reminds me a bit like City does our Lewis, Clearly one of, if not, the greatest driver ever to have got behind the wheel.

Gets absolutely nowhere fuckin near the credit he deserves. He's just had a crowd booing him on the podium when he should of been celebrating, walked off disappointed.

In fact he's just said he feels deflated.
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Lewis is well respected and will go down as an all time great, he's going to be a six time world champion just one short of schumi
And I wouldn't put it past him to go and get 8 with his current car as well
 
Behind all the protests from Ferrari of it not being fair, you have to look at Vettel and see further evidence of someone who has had way too many chances and repeatedly fucking it up.

He can’t drive under pressure which led to that mistake yesterday, if it hadn’t had happened Hamilton would have passed him at some point. That could have got very hairy if there was contact as there wasn’t any place Hamilton could have gone.
 
I was once at a Grand Prix, watching from up on a hill. Österreichring, as it happens. I was a bit bored, so I went down and got as close to the track behind the fence as I could. It so happens it was at the end of a straight. Only when you're down there do you get some inkling (and it's only an inkling) of just how terrifyingly fast those vehicles are going, and how tiny the margin for error is.
It's hard on Vettel, but it was dangerous. Racers gonna race. I understand that. But ask yourself this: if Lewis Hamilton were dead this morning — or Sebastian Vettel, or both — would there be any kind of debate about the irresponsibility of Vettel's manœuvre?
I'd say the same thing if it were Lewis, or any other driver.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
I was once at a Grand Prix, watching from up on a hill. Österreichring, as it happens. I was a bit bored, so I went down and got as close to the track behind the fence as I could. It so happens it was at the end of a straight. Only when you're down there do you get some inkling (and it's only an inkling) of just how terrifyingly fast those vehicles are going, and how tiny the margin for error is.
It's hard on Vettel, but it was dangerous. Racers gonna race. I understand that. But ask yourself this: if Lewis Hamilton were dead this morning — or Sebastian Vettel, or both — would there be any kind of debate about the irresponsibility of Vettel's manœuvre?
I'd say the same thing if it were Lewis, or any other driver.
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Think you have to ask was it deliberate?
I've watched the footage in Sebs cockpit multiple times now and I genuinely don't see how anyone could say he deliberately tried to squeeze him into the wall
 
Honestly, at that level, where it is literally a matter of life and death, if it was due to a lapse in attention or concentration on Seb's part, then it's just as irresponsible. I'm not defending Lewis at all costs. I actually think he can be a bit of a cock at times. But that's neither here nor there. In motor racing, as in no other sport (except perhaps mountaineering or ocean going racing, neither of which I know anything about, not that I know a lot about F1), it is, as I say, a question of life or death.
Anyway, we move on. I don't think Ferrari can live with Mercedes anyway, at present.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Honestly, at that level, where it is literally a matter of life and death, if it was due to a lapse in attention or concentration on Seb's part, then it's just as irresponsible. I'm not defending Lewis at all costs. I actually think he can be a bit of a cock at times. But that's neither here nor there. In motor racing, as in no other sport (except perhaps mountaineering or ocean going racing, neither of which I know anything about, not that I know a lot about F1), it is, as I say, a question of life or death.
Anyway, we move on. I don't think Ferrari can live with Mercedes anyway, at present.
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I think a driver losing the backend by accident is not irresponsible mate, he's still human.
 
The FIA stewards have privy to the cars accelerator/brake/steering positions.
If you run off, you brake, regain control and re-enter the track.
However, if you want to keep your position, you keep your foot to the floor, waggle the car a bit and block the other driver.

Assuming he didn't do the above, then he still maintained a position after completely leaving the track, and then blocking another driver. How many times have we seen a driver having to give a position back after cutting a corner.
He could have caused a serious accident. I think a five second penalty is pretty lenient.

As for the theatricals afterwards......what a prick.
 
fulabeer said:
The FIA stewards have privy to the cars accelerator/brake/steering positions.
If you run off, you brake, regain control and re-enter the track.
However, if you want to keep your position, you keep your foot to the floor, waggle the car a bit and block the other driver.

Assuming he didn't do the above, then he still maintained a position after completely leaving the track, and then blocking another driver. How many times have we seen a driver having to give a position back after cutting a corner.
He could have caused a serious accident. I think a five second penalty is pretty lenient.

As for the theatricals afterwards......what a prick.
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The thing you absolutely don’t do in the situation Vettel found himself in is brake.
 
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