Var debate 2019/20

[bluemc1]

I wanted VAR but that’s cos I thought it would be used properly, you know, ref makes mistake VAR spots it and gives correct decision
The amount of decisions we had that I was thinking VAR and we win that
The Sane cross v Arsenal in semi final and the Ashley Young on Aguero penalty in 2-3 at our place were a joke and felt it sorts it all out, the worrying thing is that we now know that if the Young penalty goes to VAR it would have made zero difference
In its current format it needs fucking off and it’s making the game a laughing stock

for me the VAR room should NOT watch the match or know what decision the ref has given, asked to look at just the incident and give their decision

100% for me when VAR look at incident they should not know what decisions already been made
cheat your way out of that

 

[Paladin]

Ali’s on Saturday has now put the cat amongst the pigeons, his control of the ball using his arm was far easier to spot and review by VAR than either Jesus v the Spuds and Boly’s. However for some bizarre reason it was allowed to stand, even Ali said he thought it wouldn’t be allowed but when Phil Neville and Chris Hughton analyse the play and come to the conclusion the goal was valid you know there there is a big problem.

Not really. Hughton is a former Spurs player. Neville seemed incapable of making up his own mind, and went with the balance of opinion of other pundits. I wouldn't give credence to either of their opinions on this particular incident.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

After this weekend can there be any doubt that VAR ( or it's operation more like ) by our respected officials is the biggest fuck up ever conceived in order to ruin the game we all love ?

Surely the smug twats at PiGMOL cannot be allowed to continue to operate with this total shambles and pretend that it is working correctly.

Stevie Wonder would make do a better job of things than our referees . Twats to a man, PL and PiGMOL.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

That Liverpool goal,.. wasnt it offside? I was sure Firminho got an assist. Anyway I didnt see the micro analysis of it and I cant tell from the videos

 

[kippaxwarrior]

Has Dermot had his say yet on Sky?

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

That's not even the argument, If Var wanted to help Liverpool out they had every opportunity right there and then, and no one would of questioned it.

Even the Mane one they could of allowed it and said fuck it were going all out to help the scousers.

It's as if folk can't come to terms with Var not overruling that decision as its completely knocked their theory on it's only here to benefit Liverpool

I even think some would of wanted it disallowed just to prove a point.

Fully agree with that. The Mane decision looked to me the exact same issue as the one we had against Spurs. A hint of hand ball that did nothing to alter the play but used to rule out an otherwise perfectly good goal. Its is a ridiculous use of the technology - Hand balls have always been very subjective and they have decided to take all the subjectivity out of it and make it very technical with any handball enough to rule out a goal (but still stick to the original approach when it is not a goal). Both those games were denied the correct outcome IMO. We did enough to bet spurs and the dippers did enough to beat the rags, VAR chalked of a goal in each.

I don't agree with the Aguero decision but it had no effect on the result so I won't lose any sleep.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Mike Riley was an appalling referee. He is totally incompetent and needs to be sacked. VAR is being used differently across the world. What is the point if it doesn't correct penalty decisions where the referee has got it wrong? What reason can there be for the ref not watching the video? At the moment VAR is being used mainly to chalk off goals for the slightest reasons. The Deli Ali goal was like basketball ffs. Watford could be relegated on the back of those two decisions but no one will stand up for the smaller clubs (who are being treated even worse than us) What a disgrace

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Everyones moaning about the time taken for the ref to go to the monitor...Use the 4th official, he can make judgement calls, we can all see who it is making the decisions, just let the 4th official take a quick squint at the replay and make a call.

 

[richards30]

I think it’s now been proven that there is no consistency with the VAR decisions? That’s the biggest problem which opens the process up to the corruption accusations. The refs currently though are corrupt imo as we wouldn’t have got that penalty on Saturday as the ref had already give a goal kick

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

So you think that the goal should have been disallowed?

I dont think it should have been given, but VAR/PL/whoever could have easily VAR'd that goal out of history.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Has Dermot had his say yet on Sky?

He says everything OK nothing to review .

 

[fierydan]

Has Dermot had his say yet on Sky?

Sky sports News every Monday at 11.30am.
not repeated or available on catch up

 

[blueste41]

Has Dermot had his say yet on Sky?

11:30. I will be watching and report back.
I'm sure I am just going to echo other comments, it's not working is it? We were told that it would remove controversy and deliver the correct decision. Because of the way it's been used it's more controversial than when we didn't have it and not delivering the correct decision!

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

Even Herr Klopp agrees the shove on KDB was a penalty -
"Look at Manchester City yesterday - it was so clear and obvious that Kevin de Bruyne was pushed [against Crystal Palace] and if I am saying Manchester City should have had a penalty then it must have been a penalty."

From BBC SPorts Website https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50119117

 

[brummie blue]

The premise of VAR is good, other than the frame rate not being up to much the technology works.

Unfortunately, there are a bunch of muppets running it and ultimately making the decisions, who are just the poor referees we have stuck in front of a screen, their incompetence, bias or down right stubbornness to stick together and not show each other up makes VAR pointless. It won't change because the premier league and FA have supported it in its current guise and the back the ref's endlessly.

The only thing you can really trust is goal line technology as it doesn't need intervention from any idiots.


Dermot on Sky this morning, doesn't think the ball hits Dele Ali's arm prior to the Spurs goal, two professional footballers in the studio say it hits the arm, this sum's up the problem, but he does think Zaha's foul on KDB is a penalty.

No body has the balls to say, ref you've missed that one, reverse your decision.

 

[UUJblue]

Everyones moaning about the time taken for the ref to go to the monitor...Use the 4th official, he can make judgement calls, we can all see who it is making the decisions, just let the 4th official take a quick squint at the replay and make a call.

In rugby the ref, VAR Ref, and other officials all make an agreed and concise agreement. I dont think i have seen a ref on the pitch look at the monitor once yet himself and leaves it up the man in the van...

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Even Herr Klopp agrees the shove on KDB was a penalty -
"Look at Manchester City yesterday - it was so clear and obvious that Kevin de Bruyne was pushed [against Crystal Palace] and if I am saying Manchester City should have had a penalty then it must have been a penalty."

From BBC SPorts Website https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50119117

"I even admit City should have had a penalty therefore I am speaking the truth"

 

[Bluearmy]

He says everything OK nothing to review .

Nope, he said United goal should have been disallowed which is correct. Mane goal should have been disallowed, which it was and is correct. Watford one should have been a pen and was incorrect!!

 

[kippaxwarrior]

Nope, he said United goal should have been disallowed which is correct. Mane goal should have been disallowed, which it was and is correct. Watford one should have been a pen and was incorrect!!

What about the Zaha push on Kev?

 

[tommo74]

No because the whole game is changed at every decision. IF VAR had not intervened in the Liverpool equaliser the whole game would have panned out differently. So perhaps you are the one who should keep in your Bluemoon gang of argumentative disbelievers.

And if my aunty had a dick she would be my uncle, and how do you know the game would have panned out differently? Oh you don't