Var debate 2019/20

[ChicagoBlue]

thank you for summarising, I've said exactly this in about 10 posts but some people on here appear to be as lazy as the journalists

Me, too!!!

I’m answering posts as I find them and honestly don’t have the time (or energy!) to read and respond to every misstatement!

 

[kaz7]

Probably next to the last person ( behind me apparently) to ask to make sense of anything . Always good for a giggle though !

some of his gems..

"35% of black players are non white."

"Make no mistake, mistakes will be made."

"Football’s football. If that weren’t the case it wouldn’t be the game that it is."

"Having watched a replay, there’s absolutely no doubt; it’s inconclusive."

Why did you tell blues to stop moaning and show some class?

 

[Blue Mist]

I'm still lost! because i agree with the goal being disallowed but that the ref should have given a penalty for the foul at the corner ? that makes me a supporter of another team ?

i don't agree with pitch invasions and violence . so that makes me a shit house supporter ?

edit :

i typed in rawk after i felt assured it wasn't an an acronym for a type of porn or romance ( swalk for example )

Now type in RLPD, if you don't get an answer from google come back to me.

 

[Bunchofdickovs]

Why did you tell blues to stop moaning and show some class?

i answered that in an earlier post

don't wish to argue with you but some people love the football violence . ( all over football ) Some live for it . I know quite a few wanderers supporters that care more about ti than the actual football . it's a tribal thing i guess .


edit : saw you edited your post .

i said show class because of what people are/were suggesting . Getting games abandoned etc. That doesn't help in the slightest . IF next week or month the same decisions go for us ? would we find it acceptable that the other teams supporters got the match abandoned etc ?

will it help to play in front of an empty stadium or be deducted points ? nope .

whinge / moan or whatever but show a bit of class by not resorting to stupidity .

 

[kaz7]

i answered that in an earlier post

You should have posted it in the violence thread then it would have made more sense

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

From the Reuters report on the IFAB meeting, my comments in italics

IFAB’s annual general meeting in Aberdeen ruled that intent would no longer be a factor in situations involving goals or goal-scoring opportunities from next season. The law change should stop situations where a goal is scored off a player’s arm or hand.

“A goal scored directly from the hand/arm (even if accidental) didn't happen and a player scoring or creating a goal-scoring opportunity after having gained possession/control of the ball from their hand/arm didn't gain control or possession of the ball (even if accidental) will no longer be allowed,” IFAB said in a statement.

This reinforces the actual rule as neither the rules nor the report mention TEAM at all

You seem to be inserting a word and meaning to suit your own agenda and covering that with a generic "ooh it's obvious possession means team", when in reality a law should not be open to (mis)interpretation of who or what it actually applies to

This.
They went to the bother of changing the rule and this is the specific wording they came up with.

Someone coming out with, “this is what they mean”, is being totally subjective.
Would probably have a great future in PGMOL.

 

[Bunchofdickovs]

You should have posted it in the violence thread then it would have made more sense

Well we live and learn . I thought i had posted it in the same thread because i saw similar posters names but then i did have a few pages open . It seems that there are like minded people here that disagree on that kind of action which is a good thing . What i find though is the people that spout nonsense about pitch invasions etc are the ones that spout it all over social media . Gives the wrong impression .

 

[Blue Mist]

Well we live and learn . I thought i had posted it in the same thread because i saw similar posters names but then i did have a few pages open . It seems that there are like minded people here that disagree on that kind of action which is a good thing . What i find though is the people that spout nonsense about pitch invasions etc are the ones that spout it all over social media . Gives the wrong impression .

Well you are new to the forum after all, it takes some time to get used to it and it is a different set up to most other forums

 

[GeorgeR]

Maybe this has been pointed out earlier but I looked on the FA website and found a document explaining the changes.
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...ootball-11-11/2019-2020-law-changes-explained

It lists accidental the ‘handball’ situations which will result in a free kick including this one:
a player gains control/possession of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity.

which as others have pointed out is clearly separating the handball from the player gaining control/possession.
Added to that even Duncan Castles thinks it was the wrong call.

 

[gingerprince]

If, KDB blasts a shot into packed penalty area and it hits aguero on the arm and rebounds back to the halfway line,

Where Eddie then blasts into the net from just inside his own half, would that be a goal or disallowed under the rule.

Obviously a goal wasnt scored directly following agueros contact, eg it didnt rebound into the goal. Now, normally

a ref wouldn't send a player off for a foul around halfway line particularly if he thought other defensive players could

be between the player & the goal, eg he or she would give a yellow as it wouldnt be deemed a goal scoring opportunity.

As Eddie is in his own half with probably all eleven opposition players in front of him, it's not a goalscoring opportunity,

So when does it become a goal scoring opportunity,?

When a goal is scored, as obviously it was an opportunity as he scored or by the same criteria they use to deem red not yellow