Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

blueparrot said:
Id expect hotels / restaurants to follow fairly quickly after its given the go ahead if they are talking of events 150 plus days a year.
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I think that’s why the city centre Hotels and Restaurants are concerned. They know City/ADUG have the financial clout and the prestige to attract property developers and Hotel chains to invest and to build on the Etihad Campus, and in doing so, taking business away from the city centre.

Here’s an interesting article about Manchester’s city centre Hotel boom and the over supply of Hotel rooms looming. And the need for the city to attract and to increase visitor numbers to fill those additional Hotel rooms.

Building Or Buying A Manchester Hotel? Two Monster Issues Are Heading Your Way

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/manchester/n...6#ath?utm_source=CopyShare&utm_medium=Browser
 
jrb said:
I think that’s why the city centre Hotels and Restaurants are concerned. They know City/ADUG have the financial clout and the prestige to attract property developers and Hotel chains to invest and to build on the Etihad Campus, and in doing so, taking business away from the city centre.

Here’s an interesting article about Manchester’s city centre Hotel boom and the over supply of Hotel rooms looming. And the need for the city to attract and to increase visitor numbers to fill those additional Hotel rooms.

Building Or Buying A Manchester Hotel? Two Monster Issues Are Heading Your Way

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/manchester/n...6#ath?utm_source=CopyShare&utm_medium=Browser
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JRB
Have you herd or seen anything regarding the new North Stand including a large extention which would Inc the hotel attached & built into the actual stand?

Not as ugly as Old Trafford cricket or any cricket grounds just a thought.

I guess the East side parking will be the new restaurants & retail area.
 
LucahArchie10 said:
JRB
Have you herd or seen anything regarding the new North Stand including a large extention which would Inc the hotel attached & built into the actual stand?

Not as ugly as Old Trafford cricket or any cricket grounds just a thought.

I guess the East side parking will be the new restaurants & retail area.
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The new stand would not include a large extension inc a hotel etc as the land behind the stand is for fan engagements and also the most important area in the vicinity for crowds leaving the stadium.
 
LucahArchie10 said:
JRB
Have you herd or seen anything regarding the new North Stand including a large extention which would Inc the hotel attached & built into the actual stand?

Not as ugly as Old Trafford cricket or any cricket grounds just a thought.

I guess the East side parking will be the new restaurants & retail area.
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Sorry, no.

I don’t work in MCR’s property development or construction sectors or for City.

I’ve just got a really keen interest in property development in Manchester, via well over a decade of posting on SSC MCR.

My interest in Architecture and property development started after the IRA bomb in 1996. To this day I still remember hearing a large explosion, opening the front door of my Mum’s House in Burnage, and seeing a huge plume of smoke rising high above the city centre.

Fortunately via SSC and BM I’ve been fortunate enough to have got to know people who are very high up in some of Manchester’s biggest property development companies.

I never fish for info. I’m honest and upfront when I speak to property developers. OVG being the most recent one at the public consultation on Tuesday.

That aside, I enjoy walking around Manchester city centre and beyond, seeing the property development changes taking place across the city centre and beyond, and taking pictures of all of the property developments going up in the city. I do a monthly construction roundup for SSC, MCR.

If and when construction on the proposed arena starts, I will post regular picture updates on BM. :-)
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Traffic links are a concern, particularly when there is a gig and a match at the same time - evening kick offs are going to be fun for sure. However, if it goes the way of Glasgow and the SE Hydro, it will attract new business to the campus such as Hotels and that can only be a good thing. The Hydro is served by A Premier Inn, a Holiday Inn, a Crowne Plaza, a Campanille, a Village Urban and a Radisson that are all within a few minutes walk. Imagine the difference that would create to footfall on the Campus.
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Anyone who went to Wembley in 2011 and again this year can bear testament to the mass development over the last 8 years. Hotels, shops, restaurants and apartments. The council simply have to improve transport links, but there’s an example of how a stadium and concert venue can work in tandem.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Perhaps he preferred it when the site was totally derelict and poisoned with toxic chemicals which took two years to remove. In my mostly misspent youth I once worked on Grey Mare Lane for about 12 months (circa 1980). In terms of crime it was like a war-zone in those days. People always look back on the past with rose-tinted glasses don't they.
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Grey Mare lane nick was likened to the Hill Street Blues nick, The rubble from the Aniline site was quarantined on site and processed before it could be removed. Beeching and his slash and burn of the railways was responsible for the loss of thousands of jobs in E. Manchester. No wonder it turned out like it did....
 
gkmcfc said:
Anyone who went to Wembley in 2011 and again this year can bear testament to the mass development over the last 8 years. Hotels, shops, restaurants and apartments. The council simply have to improve transport links, but there’s an example of how a stadium and concert venue can work in tandem.
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Correct - there is a full outlet shopping centre and loads of hotels now. The space is all leisure!
 
...and Populous's square looking build for Milan (might hint more of what to expect?):

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Originally posted by RMB2007 on SSC MCR.

Building.Co.UK.

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Sir Robert McAlpine and Laing O’Rourke are both eying the chance to build a new 20,000-plus capacity arena in the shadow of Manchester City’s Etihad stadium.

The pair are understood to have been joined by Bam in looking at the job and one source said: “One of us will be successful in that. Everyone is going very hard for that one.”

Los Angeles-based developer Oak View Group launched a consultatation on the £300m plans last week with a second round due to take place before Christmas.
 
jrb said:
Early stage transport plans.

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Well at least they’re proposing some things. City do nothing. OVG are looking at shuttle buses to and from the arena. A number of us have been saying City should put these on for years (well before the Sheikh even came to us!)

What the board members of City and OVG should do is use the Met on a match day just to experience what it’s like both before and especially after games (especially night games). That’s the only way they’ll get a real understanding of what they’re up against.
 
Genuinely think this arena will be transformational for the area. They will need to do work on Transport infrastructure but this arena could bring an extra 50 thousand people to the area every week. Enough to support a whole range of food and drink outlets etc. The elephant in the room re the Transport infrastructure is the inadequacy of the Metro link - do wonder whether that’s something that needs serious investigation and investment.
 
nmc said:
Genuinely think this arena will be transformational for the area. They will need to do work on Transport infrastructure but this arena could bring an extra 50 thousand people to the area every week. Enough to support a whole range of food and drink outlets etc. The elephant in the room re the Transport infrastructure is the inadequacy of the Metro link - do wonder whether that’s something that needs serious investigation and investment.
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I think so too, perhaps coming to fruition later than originally anticpated but it was mentioned on here the whole development was a 30 year plan. Everything seems to be lined up in place and this lot seem to be the real deal (Oak). Fantastic for the area and, longer term, for the city (as the city expands in this direction). Agree about the transport too...
 
somapop said:
I think so too, perhaps coming to fruition later than originally anticpated but it was mentioned on here the whole development was a 30 year plan. Everything seems to be lined up in place and this lot seem to be the real deal (Oak). Fantastic for the area and, longer term, for the city (as the city expands in this direction). Agree about the transport too...
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Does anyone know, perhaps Prestwich Blue, if we can count revenue from this venue towards football club income (and help with FFP). Presumably this development will make it easier for us to generate corporate income from joint football/music packages, especially if we build a hotel and attract more tourists. We could also use the indoor venue to sell food and drink to City fans on match days ( a sort of deluxe box park set-up). The venue will actually be joined to the main stadium North Stand won't it? This could be a huge advantage for us against our commercial rivals, especially the Rags. What about joint season tickets for music and football? It looks like a game-changer for us.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
no but I’ve been to the swamp and Goodison in recent weeks and our ground is fantastic in comparison.
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Definitely. I wouldn’t be surprised if the North Stand plans were upgraded to have a full one tiered end like at Spurs. It would require a lot more work but they may consider it now they’re not pressing ahead.
 
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