General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Its about the failure to tackle flooding though..... it's about the failure to pass legislation to provide adequate flood defences.

Its about turning a responsibility of DEFRA into a charitable organisation (Canals and Rivers Trust ) so it cant draw funds from the Government (done in 2012)

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/over-1-billion-investment-secures-future-of-new-waterways-charity

Its about the failure to tackle the cladding issue though

A report pointing out the dangers of HPL cladding sat on a Tory Ministers desk (Pickles & Barwells) for years. They were written to on numerous occasions but failed to do anything

https://insidecroydon.com/2019/06/13/barwell-and-the-ignored-warnings-that-led-to-grenfell-tragedy/

Its about the lies that they tell about the NHS trying to convince everyone that everything is fine .... whilst all the evidence says its not and at the same time the Royal College of Nursing are running radio ads asking people to petition their MP about staff shortages.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/14/ae-waiting-times-now-worst-since-records-began/

https://www.rcn.org.uk

Its about the mudslinging that they do about free broadband , when it will bring benefit to the poorer paid allowing children at home to complete proper research for their homework, allow people to search for jobs at home rather than have to go down to the library (which the Tories are closing at an ever increasing rate) allow people to claim welfare (which in the case of universal credit can only be done online) Order groceries to be delivered (which goes towards a reduction in Carbon emissions)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/15/tories-libraries-social-mobility-conservative

I would also point out that the Governments own report called 'Frontier Economics' published in 2018 is the basis of the numbers used by the Labour Party... in the report it confirms that using one provider would work out £12 billion cheaper than using multiple. The infrastructure is all provided by Openreach (with the exception of Virgin) anyway. But for some reason the Conservatives expect the British public to pick up the £12 billion cost - hardly acting for our benefit are they?

It's the fraud they committed when they bribed the DUP with yours and mine tax £ so they could stay in power. And now we have further evidence of electoral fraud & malpractice being investigated by the Met Police regarding offers made to the Brexit Party Candidates to incentivise them to stand down.



It's the lies they told about the need for austerity ... and now all of a sudden the Magic Money tree is in full bloom and we have been through a decade of pain and what is reckoned to be 120,000 attributable deaths because of it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-social-care-government-policy-a8057306.html

Its the lies they told in 2014 when they established the Military Covenant which made the promise that those and their families who serve or have served will be treated fairly and yet its believed that there are close on 14000 homeless veterans in the UK at todays date.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/least-13000-hero-soldiers-left-11847000

Its the lies they are telling that this General Election is all about Brexit when they have no policies to put forward other than to try and repair the damage of the last 10 years.

None of this is going unnoticed by the British public... you might think that this election is purely about Brexit ..... a lot of us don't.
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Well worth repeating. Fantastic post.
 
blueinsa said:
Cheer up.

Soon have a majority brexit parliament and it will be over with.

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Haha
You reckon?
I predict 10 years before everything’s sorted if we leave on the current WA with the current PM.
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
Think the limitations of Twitter mean he just summarised but you want to assume "Down at Oakshott station at 6.30am ..." to mean "I am down ..." but I just read it as "I was down ..." or "We were down ...". All about whether you view it in the present or not.

Either way you can't say "Look at this liar" or pretend it's a joke because if it was, to the poster, don't give up the day job.
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Again, without the photo, which very much implies a moment and a current one, you'd have a point. the tweet does very much stipulate that, no matter how much you dissect and deconstruct it.

Either way, completely pointless argument so i'll excuse myself.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Thinking that leaving is the least worst option isn’t necessarily as a consequence of anything other than a reasoned conclusion in the absence of the type of outside influence to which you allude.
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You reckon a reasoned conclusion could be that leaving on any terms at all including WTO is preferable than remaining with a moderate Labour government?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Thinking that leaving is the least worst option isn’t necessarily as a consequence of anything other than a reasoned conclusion in the absence of the type of outside influence to which you allude.
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Acouple of "inconveniences" , a confetti of needless non-sequiturs, seasoned with trade-mark "sneer and deflect" and you are balls deep into prince of piffle territory, with the inevitable " ïdïot lïker " inevitability.....shudder
 
bellbuzzer said:
Acouple of "inconveniences" , a confetti of needless non-sequiturs, seasoned with trade-mark "sneer and deflect" and you are balls deep into prince of piffle territory, with the inevitable " ïdïot lïker " inevitability.....shudder
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lol
 
bellbuzzer said:
Acouple of "inconveniences" , a confetti of needless non-sequiturs, seasoned with trade-mark "sneer and deflect" and you are balls deep into prince of piffle territory, with the inevitable " ïdïot lïker " inevitability.....shudder
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Verbal diarrhoea?
 
west didsblue said:
Brainwashed by bullshit.
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Unlike you and your Labour thinking? How incredibly ironic.

On my side of the argument I have the evidence of the success of captilism, the world over, across hundreds of countries and hundreds of regimes, for the past 200 years.

And on your side, you have Albania, possibly.

And I am brainwashed? Really???
 
hgblue said:
Watching Jeremy Corbyn on Marr. Labour are fucked.
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Marr get's 2 million viewers probably mainly already with unwavering political opinion.

The clips edited and repeated from marr will determine if it has made any impact.

Same for raab, and blackford interviews.

Think we who are politically minded love these shows to cticise those opposit eto us when interviewed, but doubt they really make much of a diference on the electorate
 
The Tories continue to peddle the myth that the UK has no control over immigration levels while members of the EU.

Home Secretary Priti Patel added that after Brexit, "immigration will finally be subject to democratic control, allowing us to get overall numbers down".

Successive UK governments going back to the '50s - in and out of the EU - rarely chose to apply controls. The reaction to the latest Tory immigration policy from business leaders explains why - we will need significant net migration levels for the foreseeable future even without the promised increased staffing levels in the NHS.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50449039
 
Len Rum said:
That etc's doing a lot of work in that post.
Broadband to every home is surely a good thing, is it the 'free' bit you don't like?
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It’s trying to make people think they can get anything and everything for free
Next will be free uni to get the student vote
Same with nhs (all parties) spending
I think most people want things fairer but we know they won’t do the majority of what they campaign on
 
urban genie said:
Marr get's 2 million viewers probably mainly already with unwavering political opinion.

The clips edited and repeated from marr will determine if it has made any impact.

Same for raab, and blackford interviews.

Think we who are politically minded love these shows to cticise those opposit eto us when interviewed, but doubt they really make much of a diference on the electorate
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I don’t mean that Jezza’s performance on Marr means that Labour is fucked. His performance on Marr just confirms that Labour have chosen a useless fucker to lead them and this will cost the election.
 
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