General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Ric]

Do we have to remain civil?

Preferably.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Bugger.

 

[urban genie]

I long for the Blair vs Cameron days when people thought you were a goon to be interested in politics and it bored the pants off everyone.

Those are the times that mean you’ve normally got it good.

That was because everything was the same on both sides while the gap between top and bottom grew with an economy centre round london and the financial sector, that led to resentment, farage, brexit and the movements to the left and right.

Neo-liberalism, the third way, whatever you want to call it was alway a global crash away from going tits up, and it isn't just the UK where upheaval and angry/aggresive politics is happening, the world is politically extreme across the continents from asia to the americas

 

[Ban-jani]

Bugger.

Don’t let him call you this @Ric

 

[Ban-jani]

That was because everything was the same on both sides while the gap between top and bottom grew with an economy centre round london and the financial sector, that led to resentment, farage, brexit and the movements to the left and right.

Neo-liberalism, the third way, whatever you want to call it was alway a global crash away from going tits up, and it isn't just the UK where upheaval and angry/aggresive politics is happening, the world is politically extreme across the continents from asia to the americas

Third Way politics isn’t neoliberalism, just as Ed Miliband isn’t a Communist.

I know you hate Blair and centrist/centre right economic policy but we had it miles better then than now.

I blame social media for the extremes we now have.

 

[George Hannah]

But the Bolt argument is not what you said. As for Boris Johnson, he got a second class degree, despite having every privilege going. Same with Rees-Mogg. Do you think they passed an entrance exam like your kids would have had to? Of course they didn’t.

Upper division of second class honours in both cases - not to be sniffed at but neither is a first in Management Science at the LSE or indeed leaving a trade union course at North London Poly after a series of arguments with tutors over the curriculum. They all did very well and made their parents proud I'm sure.

 

[Blue Hefner]

I’m all for that. Replace Corbyn with someone with more centre left politics and I’m back on board. With him in charge and his militant fans and cronies alongside him, I just can’t vote for them.

Whilst I broadly agree. That strategy all but guarantees a pretty hard right Tory government for the next 5 years. All to give Corbyn a kick up the arse?

As it turns out, unless something dramatic happens I won’t be voting for Labour either but for slightly different reasons. We’ve had the best part of 10 years of shit, what difference will another 5 years make......

The options are shit and shitter, as far as I can tell

 

[Chippy_boy]

Third Way politics isn’t neoliberalism, just as Ed Miliband isn’t a Communist.

I know you hate Blair and centrist/centre right economic policy but we had it miles better then than now.

I blame social media for the extremes we now have.

I totally agree social media has a lot to answer for. I mean (sorry @Ric) this is a social platform and look at the way people get worked up on here. And yes I include myself in that. I doubt many of the things said on here would be said face to face.

It's a bit like road rage where people seem to think abusing others is fine so long as they are in the relative isolation of their own car.

 

[wattle]

Third Way politics isn’t neoliberalism, just as Ed Miliband isn’t a Communist.

I know you hate Blair and centrist/centre right economic policy but we had it miles better then than now.

I blame social media for the extremes we now have.

Absolutely spot on. Everyone thinks they're a political expert and that their point is the only point, and social media gives them that platform. It would have been just the same in the old days if it was around then too.

 

[Ban-jani]

I totally agree social media has a lot to answer for. I mean (sorry @Ric) this is a social platform and look at the way people get worked up on here. And yes I include myself in that. I doubt many of the things said on here would be said face to face.

It's a bit like road rage where people seem to think abusing others is fine so long as they are in the relative isolation of their own car.

Absolutely correct but I would say on here is nowhere near as bad as Twitter or Facebook, and I’ve deleted both of my accounts from those poisonous platforms.

You’re right about the road rage point, it’s a good analogy and I’ve said recently things would be much more diplomatic face to face, even if you’re like me and very confident when talking (gob shite).

Being behind a screen and not in person does tend to allow for more rudeness and confrontation to points.