If it's about positioning then that's probably the worst part of his game. Granted he's not really in the team to defend, but his pace is his only saving grace in that respect.
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If it's about positioning then that's probably the worst part of his game. Granted he's not really in the team to defend, but his pace is his only saving grace in that respect.
People moaning about Fern not playing in midfield are crazy.. I love him.. but he’s old by top level footballing standards and deep into his twilight years. The only reason we’re seeing so much of him is due to one almighty fuck up with defensive recruitment. He really shouldn’t be seen as a solution for our midfield.. It’s backwards thinking.
And believe me I love the guy he’s one of my favourite ever city players. It’s just his time is ending.
And believe me I love the guy he’s one of my favourite ever city players. It’s just his time is ending.
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Keep playing silky ilkay so, and wonder why we are losing games.People moaning about Fern not playing in midfield are crazy.. I love him.. but he’s old by top level footballing standards and deep into his twilight years. The only reason we’re seeing so much of him is due to one almighty fuck up with defensive recruitment. He really shouldn’t be seen as a solution for our midfield.. It’s backwards thinking.
And believe me I love the guy he’s one of my favourite ever city players. It’s just his time is ending.
He's the best pivot we have at the moment, by miles.
There's no point cutting off your nose to spite your face
Keep playing silky ilkay so, and wonder why we are losing games.
He's the best pivot we have at the moment, by miles.
There's no point cutting off your nose to spite your face
And play who at centre back?
The replacement for David Silva is Phil Foden; for Fernandinho it's Rodri, and for Aguero (as you may have noticed, for nearly 3 years now) it's Gabriel Jesus. Panic!Blues you need to wake up we are in trouble.
too many players need replacing at once & buys have been poor.
Pep is in a shit position coz the players are not good enough. The club have not planned for kompany, silva, fern or Aguero with world class replacements.
idiotic we did not sign maguire when we are desperate in that position. We only just got away with it last year.
I actually see it getting worse this season sadly.
let’s keep pep and get the 5 class players in we need starting in January
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No need for appeal it was a sending off, and why every time we loose a game are we looking to blame someone else,.it is an absolute joke 6 points lost to Wolves this season, but it's someone else's faultSaid that all evening long and immediately I saw it. Wolves thought they'd bee done by VAR but it was us. Again. Ref in studio said it was a nailed on sending off.
Everybody said it was so I thought maybe I am being biased. I am glad other people think the same.
Still we were 2-0 up though so this is not why we lost the game (although it was clearly a key moment).
I wonder if City will appeal?
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A centre backAnd play who at centre back?
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Still out on the piss in Wolves.
We still need somebody in the squad who can hold the ball up.
We still need somebody in the squad who can hold the ball up.
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Been saying it all seasonStill out on the piss in Wolves.
We still need somebody in the squad who can hold the ball up.
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While there's more to defending than tackling, everyone in football never shuts up about the number of tackles VvD tends to win (albeit he's dipped this season). So, positional play apart, is VvD making all these tackles because he's 'already made a mistake' ? I don't think so - albeit it pains me to say so.Franco Baresi said if you have to make a tackle you've already made a mistake.
Defending isn't all about tackling
A centre back
I agree with you.. but we didn’t buy one.. hence my pop at our defensive recruitment or lack of it.
We went into the season Ill prepared and it’s backfired big time. End of discussion.
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Take it up with Franco mateWhile there's more to defending than tackling, everyone in football never shuts up about the number of tackles VvD tends to win (albeit he's dipped this season). So, positional play apart, is VvD making all these tackles because he's 'already made a mistake' ? I don't think so - albeit it pains me to say so.
PrezIke
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Mendy...uugggh...
Meanwhile Traore who's basically been an NFL player masquerading as a footballer and not sure what's happened but he's been really impressive for a bit now. So have others who've fizzled out, so needs more consistency, but if so could be a new beast level player if he can figure it out.
Sterling's pen misses and free kick, plus KDB coming out tells me Pep is using these games to see what might be his options, who will stay/go, and develop others/test out in new areas against good competition, compared to caring about results in the PL.
That's also why no buys in January, and the more I think he stays at least one more season to beat Klopp and the Liverpool love in. Why would he want to go out with Klopp on top? Pep is too much of a competitor.
Season has been long lost for some time. Even on that, I'd rather Liverpool win the league this way then the way we did last season. At least I already know it's happening 5 months in advance.
Meanwhile Traore who's basically been an NFL player masquerading as a footballer and not sure what's happened but he's been really impressive for a bit now. So have others who've fizzled out, so needs more consistency, but if so could be a new beast level player if he can figure it out.
Sterling's pen misses and free kick, plus KDB coming out tells me Pep is using these games to see what might be his options, who will stay/go, and develop others/test out in new areas against good competition, compared to caring about results in the PL.
That's also why no buys in January, and the more I think he stays at least one more season to beat Klopp and the Liverpool love in. Why would he want to go out with Klopp on top? Pep is too much of a competitor.
Season has been long lost for some time. Even on that, I'd rather Liverpool win the league this way then the way we did last season. At least I already know it's happening 5 months in advance.
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We went into the season with 3 senior centre backs and Eric Garcia, who's very highly rated.I agree with you.. but we didn’t buy one.. hence my pop at our defensive recruitment or lack of it.
We went into the season Ill prepared and it’s backfired big time. End of discussion.
Laporte got hurt. Stones went mard and Guardiola won't play Garcia with Otamendi.
You can't prepare for losing one of the best centre halves in the world. It just cant be done
Take it up with Franco mate
It was Maldini - and he meant a tackle as in recovery defending.
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What makes it worse is when shite or bang average footballers have good games against us. That's twice Traore has had good games against us. He would not look out of place in a Championship side.
I am not of the opinion we deserved anything out of the game but the diving from the Wolves players was comical. I'd be embarrassed if our players did the same.
I am not of the opinion we deserved anything out of the game but the diving from the Wolves players was comical. I'd be embarrassed if our players did the same.
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It was Maldini - and he meant a tackle as in recovery defending.
Isn't all defending recovery defending?
I'll tell Baresi on you if you question us again
Mendy Amazing bwhaaaaaaaaaaHe has never been amazing but anyhow we can’t rely on one player to make our defence that is not good planning. Our attack is fine we will need a new centre forward at some point. When I watched the Leicester game(we played very well) that first goal was so obvious so glaring in our weakness that it was laughable that pep doesn’t even try to negate it. He has basically gone the mascherano route and we will stick with it to the death. Stubbornness pure and simple.
We have spunked a lot of money on defence and we have a decent keeper and a great centre half. For a top squad that is very poor.
I agree with you, the Guy is really bad,constantly loses possession.When dispossessed we are always exposed to the quick counter.He has no redeeming qualities,his crosses are like Exocet Missiles that rarely find anyone in a City shirt.
Pep in my opinion keeps playing him in the belief that he will get better,"no Pep he wont"
I think he should invent Twiiter Boxing,he is built for it.He will get another 1,000 000 followers.
He will be out on loan next season,and likely the rest of his City contract,he is that bad.
Mendy makes Mangala look like Paolo Maldini
We went into the season with 3 senior centre backs and Eric Garcia, who's very highly rated.
Laporte got hurt. Stones went mard and Guardiola won't play Garcia with Otamendi.
You can't prepare for losing one of the best centre halves in the world. It just cant be done
Haha... 3 recognised centre backs is not enough and most of us realised this... what other top sides in Europe go into a season with 3 recognised centre backs.. go on.. name them?
PrezIke
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Nico is so gone after this season, in case you were wondering....