UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Grassland Blue]

If it is true that they hacked more than they admitted in our settlement, we sholud revisit that and complain to PL, FA. As for handing it to UEFA, they would claim they had a duty to do so. But it would also back up our claim that certain other clubs are plotting against us.
Is your source reliable?

I believe so.
Manchester City news.

 

[razman]

Thst Swiss ramble is a bunch of shit with some graphs stapled to it, adds nothing and talks about nothing and assumes our guilt.

think u have read something else

 

[Bell_Boy]

I believe so.
Manchester City news.

can you be a bit more specific

 

[BlueAnorak]

So basically, they found us guilty because the "wanted" to find us guilty.
They couldn't get the info they (and other interested parties) wanted, so stated we didn't cooperate.
Penalise us knowing we would have to release sensitive information for our defence.
Whatever happens they know full well it damages us now and in the future.
This all in the knowledge that when we are cleared of any wrongdoing, they won't face ANY sanctions.
Seems like a fair system...

One question, how do you prove beyond doubt the hacked emails are genuine and unedited to use in an enquiry or court case?

Unless a PGP hashing algorithm or similar, was used you cant. Even then you could fake a PGP hash code with the right equipment - though the fact it was different to the one in the email that the sending party has would invalidate it.

 

[Gordyola]

So basically, they found us guilty because the "wanted" to find us guilty.
They couldn't get the info they (and other interested parties) wanted, so stated we didn't cooperate.
Penalise us knowing we would have to release sensitive information for our defence.
Whatever happens they know full well it damages us now and in the future.
This all in the knowledge that when we are cleared of any wrongdoing, they won't face ANY sanctions.
Seems like a fair system...

One question, how do you prove beyond doubt the hacked emails are genuine and unedited to use in an enquiry or court case?

Something I've always said is that City just say they are fake

 

[hello]

As I said there is so much out there and everyone now is an expert. Has anyone seen anything official that the premier league are, or are not investigating us?

We have more chance of winning the league this season than of the premier league announcing an ffp investigation prior to the outcome of the CAS appeal, if in the unlikely event CAS uphold the UEFA decision then I am saw the premier league would feel of safer ground and give into the red based peer pressure and try to screw us over.

Masters will be "Sorry John & Ed, I know what it means to you guys, but for us to announce our decision to fuck those little city upstarts over before their appeal could be really dangerous for us, if we relegate them to league 2 and strip all their titles, by the way John we would have to give Charlton the 1937 one not you guys, sorry!, anyhow as I was saying the legal boys reckon that if punish them and the nasty bastards at CAS overrule our friends at uefa then we would be a world of shit and most of next TV deal would go on legal fees, so what we'll do is sit back and wait and hope uefa find a brown envelope taker or 2 at the CAS and them we can really go after city once its rejected at the CAS"

 

[oakiecokie]

A superb round up from Swiss Ramble. Puts our press to shame.

Wish someone would send a copy of the TV Incomes to that twat Simon Jordan.

 

[journolud]

Thst Swiss ramble is a bunch of shit with some graphs stapled to it, adds nothing and talks about nothing and assumes our guilt.

It isn’t and doesn’t

 

[HelloCity]

Controversial theory -

The Athletic published that story about City only being due a fine in order to get the ‘elite’ clubs on UEFA’s back to dish out a harsher punishment.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

It isn’t and doesn’t

What does it add to proceedings?
Nothing. A bunch of graphs that tell us what we already know and works on the assumption we are guilty.

a perfect round up? Maybe. More than that? No.

People like to nod their head towards something like Swiss ramble as if they’re a wise intellectual who goes against the flow and “gets it”

 

[mat]

Delaney trying to Gaslight PB on twatter is hilarious.

@Prestwich_Blue has always come across and fair and rational to me. Regardless of his City allegiance. The way he's being targeted by Miguel shows immaturity on his part.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Thst Swiss ramble is a bunch of shit with some graphs stapled to it, adds nothing and talks about nothing and assumes our guilt.

He is independent, an accountant and universally respected for his summaries of football finances.

Back in the early days of FFP when we were subject to rival outrage about our spending he published a great and detailed article highlighting how plausible our financial plan could be to not fall foul of the regulations. He was the one independent I can recall who did that.

Every big-financial brain on here has the utmost of respect for him.

And personally I like graphs like the one below which puts the Etihad deal into perspective. The "related" and non-related" aspects have been detailed on here many times by the likes of PB but appreciate this is complex stuff for many.

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[bobbyowenquiff]

The very definition of fake news.

The story is just a false narrative isn't it? It makes you wonder about Ornstein's motive. He has written two fake statements wthout challenging them even though a quick Google search shows the truth. City have not inflated the transfer market. The Cartel clubs United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid make all the big signings (as well as the non cartel PSG).
Nor has the club had an aggressive PR campaign. In fact apart from a brief video and two statements City have done virtually no PR. There has been pushback by our fans. It is totally absurd coverage which suggests to me that the Athletic will fail in this country because, like most of our media, it just can't be trusted.

 

[BringBackSwales]

prejudice is a big word ? but uefa can not hide the fact and the board members don't want a fair fight and city challenge is close, so the need to cut us off right now is being push by them, old fashion black ball in the bag if one of the board does not want you in, only this time the only balls in the bag are black and it never got to a vote

we are never going to be allowed to win the champions league even if the ban falls on its knees, the game is bent from top to bottom and if they don't get you one way ? you can bet they get you the other way and on the pitch with the officials, so for me i don't really give a shit about europe its never been a fair fight

That’s the biggest/saddest issue for me Ancoats, the fact that the PL and UEFA are bent to fuck, and yet the average sky and bt watcher and newspaper reader truly believe they aren’t. Unfuckingbelievable

 

[TheThirdDeano]

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He is independent, an accountant and universally respected for his summaries of football finances.

Back in the early days of FFP when we were subject to rival outrage about our spending he published a great and detailed article highlighting how plausible our financial plan could be to not fall foul of the regulations. He was the one independent I can recall who did that.

Every big-financial brain on here has the utmost of respect for him.

And personally I like graphs like the one below which puts the Etihad deal into perspective. The "related" and non-related" aspects have been detailed on here many times by the likes of PB but appreciate this is complex stuff for many.

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personally I want all my news and summations from a shouty man telling me facts and then someone to finally tell me where all the trade goes. Like a true intellectual.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Having been tried in a kangaroo court and sanction

I am told that the dippers hacked into our e-mails (club and private).
Not only that, but they tapped into private phone calls.
Above all that, they were the ones who disclosed the content (probably taken out of context), to UEFA.
I am told...

If this is true I can't understand why we settled out of court. It's bad enough to hack club emails, but private call and emails takes this to a whole new level. How impeccable is the source?

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

What does it add to proceedings?
Nothing. A bunch of graphs that tell us what we already know and works on the assumption we are guilty.

a perfect round up? Maybe. More than that? No.

People like to nod their head towards something like Swiss ramble as if they’re a wise intellectual who goes against the flow and “gets it”

Apologies for my last post. I didn't realise you knew all this stuff. Clever boy :)

But I've liked your later post :)

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Apologies for my last post. I didn't realise you knew all this stuff. Clever boy :)

Cheers mate :-) I pride myself on my ability to understand things before I even read the full story!

 

[razman]

If this is true I can't understand why we settled out of court. It's bad enough to hack club emails, but private call and emails takes this to a whole new level. How impeccable is the source?

city wouldn't have settled for it , if it was emails + calls....that would too much .

 

[George Hannah]

Thst Swiss ramble is a bunch of shit with some graphs stapled to it, adds nothing and talks about nothing and assumes our guilt.

lol - you need to get past that downbeat first para and the pictures - it gets better ;)