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I can't believe India has only just had its first death, all those people living in such cramped and unsanitary conditions.
 
This thing is off the scale now
I think next week it will be noticeable that kids will be taken out of school, people working from home, low attendances at football if still on, same with concerts
Time for people to take the action the government won’t
This has to be done to slow the spread
 
Tb1981 said:
This thing is off the scale now
I think next week it will be noticeable that kids will be taken out of school, people working from home, low attendances at football if still on, same with concerts
Time for people to take the action the government won’t
This has to be done to slow the spread
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I think the Govt and the authorities are waiting to get to within 2 weeks of the Easter holidays before closing schools.
Then basically they'll be shut for a month.
 
bavarian blue said:
I can't believe India has only just had its first death, all those people living in such cramped and unsanitary conditions.
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They have been absolutely ruthless with regards to the travel ban, within days they were sending people away who arrived from an effected country.
 
flook said:
we're taking a reactive approach for sure, which in my experience is never a great way of doing thinks. Sporting events and mass gatherings must surely be stopped in the next couple of days......
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It may end up being proactive for the virus when it arrives back in Autumn/Winter. But one thing no-one can say is "for sure".
 
Two articles from the Guardian showing very different policies from the UK and Taiwan.

The article on the UK gives some insight of the government reasoning.

UK government's coronavirus advice – and why it gave it

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ave-it?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

How Taiwan is containing coronavirus – despite diplomatic isolation by China

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-china?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

If the virus eventualy becomes 'normalised' and acts in the same way as other seasonal illnesses or travels in waves as the illness pass back and fourth around the world, will Taiwan have to behave in the same manner with each wave until a cure or vaccination is found? Will a cure or treatment be found. From my limited understanding 4 non novel coronovirus are already out there and no cure is available we just manage the symptoms.
 
SkyBlueTX said:
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I miss John Candy
 
AlgarveBlu said:
yes but Donald Trump has excluded the UK from the travel ban which obviously means we are undertaking the right strategy! If anyone can name me one thing this man has got wrong so far since being president I would be amazed.
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The one thing he has missed is the spread within his own country and last week he was calling it a hoax.

It's currently around $1000 to get a test done and not all insurances cover it so don't expect the number of cases to increase much or even be reported...!
 
Chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said cancelling sporting events is not a "major way to tackle this epidemic".

"Of course there is a risk," he said. "But on average one person infects two or three others.

"You therefore have a very low probability of infecting a large number of people in a stadium, or a rather higher probability of infecting people very close to you, and that means most of the transmission tends to takes place with friends and colleagues in close environments, not in the big environments.

"It is true that any cancellations of things can have some effect (but) if you then get a displacement activity, when everyone congregates somewhere else, you may have perversely an increased risk, particularly in an indoors environment.

"So it doesn't mean you should at some point make the decision for the resilience point that has been discussed, but this is not a major way to tackle this epidemic.

"The major ways are to try and reduce and delay the transmission across households and people who have become infected and that why that is the concentration of the first actions."

Not postings the full script,but is this guy a dipper fan,

But on average one person infects two or three others.now am not dumb & am not a genius.
But if am sat/stood next to them 3 people I could pass it on to 3people next to me,
In other words it will/could snowball.
Like its been posted other countries have suspended sports & entertainment stadiums
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inbetween said:
The one thing he has missed is the spread within his own country and last week he was calling it a hoax.

It's currently around $1000 to get a test done and not all insurances cover it so don't expect the number of cases to increase much or even be reported...!
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I mentioned some days ago that the U.S will be the only country that has a parity in the number of cases tested positive to deaths ratio. Feel for the people in the states with their healthcare system and trump in charge - not even Donald can spin death to his base support which ironically will be a large percentage of the death rates they will incur.
 
kippax4ever said:
Chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said cancelling sporting events is not a "major way to tackle this epidemic".

"Of course there is a risk," he said. "But on average one person infects two or three others.

"You therefore have a very low probability of infecting a large number of people in a stadium, or a rather higher probability of infecting people very close to you, and that means most of the transmission tends to takes place with friends and colleagues in close environments, not in the big environments.

"It is true that any cancellations of things can have some effect (but) if you then get a displacement activity, when everyone congregates somewhere else, you may have perversely an increased risk, particularly in an indoors environment.

"So it doesn't mean you should at some point make the decision for the resilience point that has been discussed, but this is not a major way to tackle this epidemic.

"The major ways are to try and reduce and delay the transmission across households and people who have become infected and that why that is the concentration of the first actions."

Not postings the full script,but is this guy a dipper fan,

But on average one person infects two or three others.now am not dumb & am not a genius.
But if am sat/stood next to them 3 people I could pass it on to 3people next to me,
In other words it will/could snowball.
Like its been posted other countries have suspended sports & entertainment stadiums
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They don't sound bothered about the spread. Yesterday they said preventing the spread is undesirable because they want to build immunity within the population.

If the facts are true and this thing spreads to 2-3 people from each person infected, that is 20000 or more new cases over the next 5 days. Once they spread that is another doubling and eventually we are looking at millions infected.

To them I suppose that figure doesn't matter, the figures they are really monitoring is the numbers in intensive care and those hospitalised which apparently is quite low.

I fear for the NHS and NHS staff, they are just waiting for a bomb to explode.
 
Cheesy said:
I tell you what has surprised me most about all of this..

The proportion of epidemiologists we have amongst City fans.

I always knew your average City fan was more intelligent than fans of other clubs.
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One doesn’t have to be an epidemiologist to quote experts from the WHO, CDC and a dozen or so other countries that contradict the UK’s CMO, do you?

So I’m not sure why you’re persisting with that line of attack.
 
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