COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[crublue1]

I’m in the same boat. Working all over the country in a hotel it’s a lonely existence at the best of times. Even more so now. I’ve just moved hotels from Colchester to Aylesbury and both are empty. With the new rules enforced we can only have room service and can’t use gym. Stuck looking at 4 walls all day but at least I’m getting paid.

Feel for you blue but at least we are still working and paying tax etc which will help the cause. . I will continue to do this until I'm told I can't. Or I get the symptoms then of course I will lock down. I have parents in there 80's who are frightened. I should be running errands for them instead. I came home today and mowed my next door neighbours grass. He's 95, I'll be back in the hotel on Monday if it's open lol. Take care mate

 

[bluethrunthru]

I doubt they'd prioritise patients with the virus over those without, it'll be about if there are enough beds solely.

In Italy they have rapidly come to a cut off point......severe underlying health problems....no point in treating them.................underlying health problems and over 60.....no point in treating them.....over 70....no point in treating them. And they have more ICU beds than us. If we are going to get as bad or worse than the Italians in infection rates with lower ICU places expect the same here - too few resources ( the reasons for which are well known ) mean doctors have to make decisions like this to ration the efforts to get the best outcome.

 

[domalino]

That is not true,another dr has been talking to sky,he says that patients with other illnesses will not be able to be saved that would have been before because of equipement and staff shortages,the rest of the patients haven't gone away because of the corona ones and something has to give

This isnt a debate. We have currently got enough ventilators for everyone in hospital with coronavirus tonight.

Therefore having more ventilators is not a point of difference between the UK and germany.

 

[crublue1]

Bentley have shut down for 4 weeks. Not sure if widely known. 3000 workers . Just normal people with kids and mortgages rent etc.
3000 workers who are building cars for millionaires who can cancel orders and take the hit.
3000 workers could build a UK car we could all afford to buy.
We have to seriously adjust our priorities.

 

[TCIB]

Just seen the patriotic souls having one last hurrah at the pubs across the land. Not sure they get the point of it or at least they are to daft to act in a considered manor like staying home. I know it sucks ass especially when you know the staff and owners but the priority should be social distancing with your relatives who are old or medically vulnerable as your first priority.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

its going to go off over there when it gets bad, looting civil disorder etc,its a recipe for disaster with all the guns about, i think trump will end up chucking his toys from the pram and end up launching one on the chinese

Been my concern for a while, I reckon he will say it's to hard and either chuck the towel in and let pence take over, or literally send one at the Chinese.

 

[Mon Autre]

Just seen the patriotic souls having one last hurrah at the pubs across the land. Not sure they get the point of it or at least they are to daft to act in a considered manor like staying home. I know it sucks ass especially when you know the staff and owners but the priority should be social distancing with your relatives who are old or medically vulnerable as your first priority.

I despair really at the stupidity on show here. They still don't realise that somewhere along the line, other people will die because of their decision.

When you see people saying stuff like "if I stay home the virus wins" it makes you realise how important the language we use to talk about this is. When politicians respond to this situation using the same language they use to talk about terrorism e.g. "declaring war" and the need to "defeat it", the public seem to respond in the way they would to terrorism e.g "we must go about daily life or the terrorists wins". What we need people to do is stay home and do the exact opposite.

Seen so many flag shaggers out about on TV this week invoking the blitz spirit and yet they're struggling with the simple instruction to stay home and sit on their arse in order to protect they fellow citizens.

 

[urban genie]

Now we are all locked down the spirit of the blitz myth peddlers will be all out, telling us how we never folded and went crazy/soft/panicky during the war even though none of them actually lived through it.

People suffered a lot of psychological trauma, were trampled over by each other get into shelters, had their houses robbed during raids, social and ethnic division crept in when it came to shelters and who was let in, and most just hid at home and the myth of everyone pulling together to keep calm and carry on was over egged.
Even the king was booed when visiting bomb sights regulary.
While many of those kids sent to countryside were sent back within six months to bombed out cities as they were deemed by the locals to be diluting these little villages with their common city ways.

Gimps ignoring the advice and using the spirit of the blitz and other bollocks as a reason to do exactly the wrong thing need to be told to get a grip and do whats right.

 

[urban genie]

I doubt they'd prioritise patients with the virus over those without, it'll be about if there are enough beds solely.

Well if you have someone on a respirator/ventilator who has been diagnosed as brain dead but kept alive, do you keep them on it or sacrifice them for a person with the virus?
If you have covid 19 patients whose recovery and survival is very unlikely, do you take them off a ventalator to use on someone who has a better chance?
Do you not even bother to offer one to someone of acertain age or health condition as it may be a waste of time?

These are all things that have been reportedly agonised over in Italian hospitals as the start running short of ventilators, choosing who get's priority

Transplant patients operations in america are being cancelled partly because of a ventilator shortage and partly because to test tge donors for possible infection wull use up valuable testing stocks.
These patients on the transplant list are now in danger of death.

It is already affecting who recieves care

 

[lancs blue]

Now we are all locked down the spirit of the blitz myth peddlers will be all out, telling us how we never folded and went crazy/soft/panicky during the war even though none of them actually lived through it.

People suffered a lot of psychological trauma, were trampled over by each other get into shelters, had their houses robbed during raids, social and ethnic division crept in when it came to shelters and who was let in, and most just hid at home and the myth of everyone pulling together to keep calm and carry on was over egged.
Even the king was booed when visiting bomb sights regulary.
While many of those kids sent to countryside were sent back within six months to bombed out cities as they were deemed by the locals to be diluting these little villages with their common city ways.

Gimps ignoring the advice and using the spirit of the blitz and other bollocks as a reason to do texactly the wrong thingneed to be told to get a grip and do whats right.

Add to that the evidence of my old mum who did live through it, she used to tell me that black marketeering and corruption was rife when it came to rationed goods in particular.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

A letter from F. Scott Fitzgerald, quarantined in 1920 in the Cote d’Azur during the Spanish flu pandemic:

Dearest Rosemary,

It was a limpid dreary day, hung as in a basket from a single dull star. I thank you for your letter. Outside, I perceive what may be a collection of fallen leaves tussling against a trash can. It rings like jazz to my ears. The streets are that empty. It seems as though the bulk of the city has retreated to their quarters, rightfully so. At this time, it seems very poignant to avoid all public spaces. Even the bars, as I told Hemingway, but to that he punched me in the stomach, to which I asked if he had washed his hands. He hadn’t. He is much the denier, that one. Why, he considers the virus to be just influenza. I’m curious of his sources.

The officials have alerted us to ensure we have a month’s worth of necessities. Zelda and I have stocked up on red wine, whiskey, rum, vermouth, absinthe, white wine, sherry, gin, and lord, if we need it, brandy. Please pray for us.

You should see the square, oh, it is terrible. I weep for the damned eventualities this future brings. The long afternoons rolling forward slowly on the ever-slick bottomless highball. Z. says it’s no excuse to drink, but I just can’t seem to steady my hand. In the distance, from my brooding perch, the shoreline is cloaked in a dull haze where I can discern an unremitting penance that has been heading this way for a long, long while. And yet, amongst the cracked cloudline of an evening’s cast, I focus on a single strain of light, calling me forth to believe in a better morrow.

Faithfully yours,

F. Scott Fitzgerald

Unfortunately, I have since found out that this is not genuine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN21733X

This is parody written by American author Nick Farriella for the humor site McSweeney’s earlier this month. The text is clearly identified as such at the bottom of the original online publication and now at the top: “NOTE: This is a work of parody and is not an actual letter written by Fitzgerald.”

Here's a link to the original piece:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/thi ... -of-france

Apologies folks but all is not lost as I also found this:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/fam ... oronavirus

I suppose an online parlour game might consist of someone guessing the original novel from the parody and I would expect that Bram Stoker, Stephenie Mayer and Charlaine Harris might then feature prominently.

 

[kippax4ever]

I’m in the same boat. Working all over the country in a hotel it’s a lonely existence at the best of times. Even more so now. I’ve just moved hotels from Colchester to Aylesbury and both are empty. With the new rules enforced we can only have room service and can’t use gym. Stuck looking at 4 walls all day but at least I’m getting paid.

Get the porn channel on mate..

 

[bluemoon32]

Gutted that Wetherspoons are all closing, where else can i drink in a place with the atmosphere of a warehouse, alongside all the alkies & local nutters ?

 

[asahartford1]

Gutted that Wetherspoons are all closing, where else can i drink in a place with the atmosphere of a warehouse, alongside all the alkies & local nutters ?

Wetherspoon boys will suffer psychological issues that will require a lot of support and care, hope they can come through it.

 

[Vic]

What does that **** want now ?

Interviewing an epidemiologist saying we've got it horribly wrong. Not impressed with the immunity argument. Sooner you lock down the faster you beat it. Nought for your comfort.

 

[Vic]

This isnt a debate. We have currently got enough ventilators for everyone in hospital with coronavirus tonight.

Therefore having more ventilators is not a point of difference between the UK and germany.

Angels on the head of a pin.

What does it matter if we have enough ventilators now if next week we haven't?

 

[Vic]

Unfortunately, I have since found out that this is not genuine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN21733X

This is parody written by American author Nick Farriella for the humor site McSweeney’s earlier this month. The text is clearly identified as such at the bottom of the original online publication and now at the top: “NOTE: This is a work of parody and is not an actual letter written by Fitzgerald.”

Here's a link to the original piece:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/thi ... -of-france

Apologies folks but all is not lost as I also found this:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/fam ... oronavirus

I suppose an online parlour game might consist of someone guessing the original novel from the parody and I would expect that Bram Stoker, Stephenie Mayer and Charlaine Harris might then feature prominently.

Still worth sharing. Keep our spirits up!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

So I’m guessing the pubs are packed tonight? I fucking despair. No-one loves the pub more than me (miles better than drinking at home) but the last time I was in one was the day of the Old Trafford derby 2 weekends ago. Seriously, if I can stay out of the pub, anyone can.

Worse still, the other half’s parents arrived home from Australia this morning. Her dad is 70 today and was gutted that he couldn’t go out tonight - she told them they’d have to effectively self isolate for now partly because of their age and partly because they’d arrived home from another country - so she got her dad a crate of John Smiths amongst other things for his birthday to part make up for not being able to go out to celebrate. Anyway, a couple of hours ago she got a phone call off her daughter. She’d gone round to her grandparents after finishing work to drop some things off. Guess what? There was no-one in and they weren’t answering their mobiles. No fucking prizes for guessing where they are.

I’m like you, mate, as you know. Pubs etc have been central to my life for the last 30 years, but I’ve been staying away from busy places for about a month, and keeping my distance - and entirely for about a week. Less restrictive than many folk, I know, but quite a big deal for me!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Never mind the economy, presumably the absence of a public health care system means this pandemic could be absolutely catastrophic over there.

I fear it will be.

 

[TCIB]

I’m like you, mate, as you know. Pubs etc have been central to my life for the last 30 years, but I’ve been staying away from busy places for about a month, and keeping my distance - and entirely for about a week. Less restrictive than many folk, I know, but quite a big deal for me!

Never has a more veridical comment been posted on this forum!