COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

it wont be done in less than a year for safety reasons,herd immunity works for the healthy who wont be much bothered by it but will spread it

look the government will have been presented with options, to think they wouldnt take the acceptable losses one for the greater good dice throw is naive

Just a difference of opinion, I'll leave it there, I think.

 

[Uffa]

Exactly what I mean. The UK government is predicting that if we lockdown too early then people would begin to ignore the quarantine after a period time and then it’d be ineffective at the time that it’s needed most.

That’s why they’re waiting.

And when's that time?

 

[robbieh]

:)

That worries me. Hopefully having implemented stricter measures nationwide before it grew too out of hand in the South will prevent it from taking a heavy toll on them.

You would think so, as they will be starting from a less infectious base figure.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Why?


And I am sure there is a vast archive already to tide you over.

Kays catalogue ladies underwear section if you fall on hard times.

 

[BigOscar]

Out of interest, I keep seeing people talk about how people should self-isolate for a week/fortnight if they get sick, but then what? Do you just wander back into society if you start to feel better after a week or if are sick in that period are you supposed to stay locked away? These time frames seem pretty arbitrary, surely it should be linked to how long after you start feeling better?

 

[Ban-jani]

As I said to @TheRemainsOfTheDave, I understand the general reasoning behind your post, but there are very real consequences to building heard immunity in this fashion (it is usually a concept applied to the gradual, natural acquisition of immunity to an endemic pathogen by a large population, usually over many years). Those consequences are especially relevant in the context of a potentially overwhelmed healthcare system, which could happen well before the “peak” you have previously described, as people act on their own (as external restrictions are not being placed on them) and seek treatment whether or not they have the virus. This is still a *very* risky strategy. And it is not one being adopted by most other nations, nor one being recommended by most reputable health organisations.

One of the reasons they said that loved ones will die is because this strategy all but assures that many of the old and infirm will contract the virus and many of those will die specifically because of complications arising from infection (aka COVID-19).

And I say that as a fairly young person that is unfortunately still in the ‘high risk’ population. There are more of us than many seem to believe and not all are able to as effectively sequester themselves as I am thankfully able. Even then, I do have to make regular visit to hospital, which will increase my chance of infection based on this strategy, if also adopted by the US where I live (which in many ways it has been).

The NHS cannot cope and wouldn’t have done for the last few decades to be frank and therefore we need to go down this route.

I genuinely think the likes of China will have several spikes again, they cannot keep people locked up forever and we do not have a vaccine as it stands.

 

[BobKowalski]

makes some kind of sense to look at it like that but just accepting vulnerable people dying before clamping down to protect the rest just cannot be acceptable,all those vulnerable people are putting the nhs under huge strain and will continue to do so until they all die,what is acceptable,a million,two million? Stop those who can get it from getting it and passing it on now,stop mass gatherings,i can see no reason not to,it wont make it any worse but might just make it better

I’m not making a judgement on the morality of the Govts position just trying to make sense of it; but If a Govt is actively warning its citizens in advance there will be casualties it is the beginning of preparing the population to accept numbers they would normally reject.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Exactly what I mean. The UK government is predicting that if we lockdown too early then people would begin to ignore the quarantine after a period time and then it’d be ineffective at the time that it’s needed most.

That’s why they’re waiting.

IMO, this is going to be a disastrous decision.

 

[urban genie]

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Trying to spot the nipples or bush

 

[Ban-jani]

And when's that time?

When the rise in cases hits a specific point the lead scientist said.

The plan is to avoid a huge spike at once, that will kill any effect the NHS will have.