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nimrod said:
Sorry Karen.
But I guess the world should know what they do.
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Absolutely nims,i wasn't expecting to see cats in a cage for slaughter,what is wrong with them ffs
Nearly kill off the world by they go back to the markets that caused it,hope the rest of the world blanks them after this


Bill gates coming up in a minute,he has been talking about a pandamic for ages,he donated 100m dollars into it
 
karen7 said:
Absolutely nims,i wasn't expecting to see cats in a cage for slaughter,what is wrong with them ffs
Nearly kill off the world by they go back to the markets that caused it,hope the rest of the world blanks them after this


Bill gates coming up in a minute,he has been talking about a pandamic for ages,he donated 100m dollars into it
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It's a personal decision Kaz but I will be avoiding buying Chinese products from now on. Most of its crap anyway.
 
I've had a wobble today, really down and upset about it all, mainly the how long it will last - the length away from my mum, the months stuck in this small flat with no outside to get in no way of being under the sky no garden, trying to entertain my 3 year old while my partner grumbles in the background working fromhome, watching the freaks that live round here from the window still going out, hearing my son say he's 'being daddy' when asked why he's shouting angrily, running out of bread, not being able to get a delivery slot, worried about my milk allergy son and what happens when his children's soya milk runs out it's all he drinks, it's out of stock everywhere online even if you could gr8 a delivery cos every idiot who can have cows milk is buying it as it's 'long life', Still being awake at 3am, nursing cracked ribs from the 'accident' 9 days ago, but I guess the pain is a little easier, just the feeling of by the time this is all better I'll be losing my boy to nursery, he hasn't been to nursery yet I loved having him with me we'd go out evetwhere, but by the time we can I won't be able to - he'll have been made to start in Sept when he's 4. I'm really rambling now. I need to see my mum, I need to fuss my cats (who stayed with mum when I moved out as I was told wrenching them away to a flat was 'cruel'), I need fresh air, fun with my son, our time. I know everyone's in the same boat but fuck this is hard.. It's the never-ending feeling that is getting me. And I can't type well on a tablet so most of this will be gobbledygook sorry. Will try to sleep again now, we've been doing this 2 weeks with months to go and look at me.. And mum.. 77 with copd and a messy mind, dad died last May and I didn't think life could get worse. Giving birth at 41 was a dream for me i got the life I always wanted, he's my boy he's my world I need to live to 100 to be there for him but fuck the last 18 months was not part of the plan.

Night night
 
Bill gates,said in 2015 a highly infectious virus would kill 10m around the world

Gave 100m dollars to find vaccines and research and has his foundation

He saw the lack of a plan now early on,he wanted to do a dummy run. since 2015 but not much interest from government

Thinks 6-10 weeks of shutdown now,test test test,has to be a country wide shutdown to work,contract tracing,reckons till mid june

Numbers will peak in may time

Rich countries can shut down now and shouldn't need to do it again,poorer countries it is more difficult

Until we get the numbers down this has to take priority over the economy

Not at all realistic that trump can have his people back to to church in april

Self swabbing can help them collect data quickly

Next pandemic we would be ready quickly,this one much slower as nothing prepared,need to learn from this

Vaccines could get quicker if scientist learn from this one pamdemic

About a yr for the vaccine for COVID_19

Having bats and pangolins together was stupid so it crossed species and in to humans
That kind of thing needs to stop

Americans not beng tested enough,wants random testing as well as the obviously sick, not everyone can get tested,there is not enough,6-9mths for a home test can be done

People are coping well,back to them doing the 10week shutdown,that is the answer,do it properly and it will nip it in the bud

It will cause a lot of econonmic damage but has to be done

This is about the americans response but interesting for all countries i think


Very interesting chap to listen too
 
Dailymail's trumpiness getting braver and braver. I counted 3 articles at least on the homepage that are pretty much calling everything around coronavirus a hoax, fear mongering etc.. in the same time, they are writing many articles that are textbook example of the fear mongering other articles are writing about. they are really a vile, vile paper.
 
Marlo said:
Just spoke to my mate, who's wife works in hospital as a nurse in london, the stories she has told are horrific. Staff are leaving ICU with shell shock. Apparently people displaying the worse of the symptoms have a grey pallor, red blood shot eyes and constantly struggling to breathe. Staff don't even need to wait for a coronavirus test it's so obvious.

On a day to day you just get on with it and not worry too much, but stories like that are a shock to the system.
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That concurs with a lot of firsthand accounts from a Italy and some recent diary notes from Uk nurses.

Let’s hope that governments around the world are ready to give frontline workers all the counseling and support they may need after this is over as many of their lives will be changed forever with having to have played god with peoples lives - I can’t even begin to process what they mast be going through now.
 
davek1808 said:
Must admit I've had a bit of a wobble today, not for myself but my Mrs and kids after hearing her in tears on the phone to her mum. I like every one else just feels so helpless and knows that there is nothing I can do or say that can reassure her. I've kept the little ones pretty shielded from this (well as much as I can) anyway forgive me for going on maybe it's the booze talking.
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wouldn’t worry about wobbles, I’ve managed to proper fall of my axis at times in the last month! we are all trying to deal with handling our loved ones emotions and fears as well as our own. Give yourself some headspace time as well to look after yourself and nowt wrong with some booze to cheer you up and release pressure.

just being there is making all the difference for them but I know that it’s frustrating as fuck at times as like you I want to actually make it all go away for them. At least we have outlets like this to escape from time to time.
 
Renneronline said:
The NHS people are on the front line in all of this...what they are doing is going over the top into the unknown hoping to stem the flood of the misery that's coming. Heroes one and all, the real warriors doing their best, and doing it for us...there's something inside of them that they can't ignore, it's something that they see that has to be done. For their sake, people need to follow the line, it's the least we can do, play our part to save others and those at the front line...yet it doesn't seem to be enough, not to me, it just runs counter to all I've ever thought...by not reaching out you're actually doing the right thing...definitely.
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Spot on! have absolutely struggled myself for a few weeks with this dichotomy
 
Manchester la la la la said:
Any one else in the same predicament?
My Mrs who works at the hospital is due to start helping out on the coronavirus wards from Tuesday
I'm kicking off like fuck saying fuck it off it ain't worth it for 17k a year live off my wage for 3 months
She won't have it tho wants to go and do her best and help out
People like her epitome what the nhs is about
I'm gutted and worried but so proud of her at the same time
Stay safe every one x
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They’re super heroes, mate. When the tough gets going the going get tough. It’s who and what they are, what they’re trained to do and they would do anything to try to help protect lives. She’d be much worse if she was sat at home doing nothing but seeing it all on the news. My best mate here is a doctor in a+e here, he has a young family but he’s working 18 hours a day in the most difficult circumstances. The hours and shifts he works and what he does on a day to day basis freak me out so to do it in these circumstances is something us mere mortals can not comprehend.
 
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Ban-jani said:
So it’s not just the UK who’s lockdown allowed people to go to work.

I fear this will escalate further and the current measures will be seen as a holiday, within the next 2 weeks.
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There always has to be some workers. We certainly don't have a B&Q or bike shop open. I guess we wait for the list to come out and see how they're managing to reduce it further.
 
nimrod said:
Meanwhile the woohan market carries on.

I'm no dog or cat lover but this is fucking heartless.

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That's not Wuhan.

Also a few photos in a daily mail article taged to a journalist different to the articles author, an article written by a freelancer and someone who hasn't had a piece published in any paper for over a year and who lives in Bali not china

Now I am not saying wet markets are not still happening, and I wouldn't normally check the validity of and article.

But it's the mail and very convenient that a paper that lives off sensationalism, xenophobia and clickbaits get this exclusive.

There are videos of people being chained into their homes, as much as I don't think the Chinese government are being honest, I will take this article with some scepticism.

Also as we saw with the videos of different regional police forces fighting on a bridge, although china is controlled by the state, but it's regions have quite a lot of autonomy and ingore a lot of rules at local level, unfortunatley unlees there is a craackdown at the centrl party level these markets will still apear in provinces unopposed by local authoriites.

I would be happy to see the chinese police close these markets and arrest the local officials not keepig tight controls
 
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