COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[jay_mcfc]

It is worth reminding people that - as it stands at the moment - the vast majority will recover and the fitter and healthier you are the much improved are your chances.....am guessing as cops they are fairly fit?

I wasn't talking about the health of the individuals as such but more the impact it's going to have on the functioning of the NHS.

 

[jay_mcfc]

That's not Wuhan.

Also a few photos in a daily mail article taged to a journalist different to the articles author, an article written by a freelancer and someone who hasn't had a piece published in any paper for over a year and who lives in Bali not china

Now I am,not saying wey markets are not still happening, and I wouldn't normally check the balidity of and article.

But it's the mail and very convenient that a paper that lives off sensationalism, xenophobia and clickbaits get this exclusive.

There are videos of people being chained into their homes, as much as I don't think the Chinese government are being honest, I will take this article with some scepticism.

Also as we saw with the videos of different regional police forces fighting on a bridge, although china is controlled by the state, but it's regions have quite a lot of autonomy and ingore a lot of rules at local level, unfortunatley unlees there is a craackdown at the centrl party level these markets will still apear in provinces unopposed by local authoriites.

I would be happy to see the chinese police close these markets and arrest the local officials not keepig tight controls

All these photos and videos are all over social media. Most of them have been doctored or are from a different time or place.

 

[urban genie]

All these photos and videos are all over social media. Most of them have been doctored or are from a different time or place.

I just don't like the ramping up of xenophobia for the sake of clicks by some.


It isn't the time for this.

 

[jay_mcfc]

I just don't like the ramping up of xenophobia for the sake of clicks by some.


It isn't the time for this.

It's gonna get a lot worse after the front page of the Mail today.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It's a personal decision Kaz but I will be avoiding buying Chinese products from now on. Most of its crap anyway.

Easier said than done that pal. Have you any idea how much of what you buy comes from China? Apart from what you eat, there is barely a thing that may not have been made there and it's often impossible to tell at the time of purchase, and sometimes even afterwards.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

It's gonna get a lot worse after the front page of the Mail today.

I just don't like the ramping up of xenophobia for the sake of clicks by some.


It isn't the time for this.

agreed; but it’s been happening over in China as well towards westerners orchestrated by their PR divisions to push the blame on anyone but themselves more recently the U.S and Italy. Doesn’t make it right what’s happening here, but their persistent shutting down of the truth from the beginning of this mess to their ongoing and current policy of misdirection is squarely on their shoulders.

They call out the world for being racist to dare suggest that we should ban travel into and out of China but then a month later do it to emphasize the point that it is the foreigners culpable for any new positive cases.

Taking the absolute piss!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...navirus-anti-foreigner-feeling-imported-cases

 

[BlueHammer85]

This is a good Analysis


By BBC health reporter Philippa Roxby

Despite today's news of the largest rise in people dying in the UK with Covid-19, the message is that everything we are all doing now to reduce social contact is having an impact - we just can't see it in the figures yet.

That's because it takes time for the effects of not going out and not going to work to be felt in hospitals, where the most seriously ill are being tested and some are, sadly, dying.

The epidemic is expected to peak in the UK in the next two to three weeks.

Until then, it is likely the number of people confirmed to have the coronavirus and the number of people dying after testing positive for the virus will continue to grow at a similar pace - doubling every two or three days.

The hope is that everyone's efforts now to stay at home and reduce the spread of this deadly virus will slow that growth rate at the right time, and, in time, bring it down.

Every one of us now has a part to play in making that happen.

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

Any one else in the same predicament?
My Mrs who works at the hospital is due to start helping out on the coronavirus wards from Tuesday
I'm kicking off like fuck saying fuck it off it ain't worth it for 17k a year live off my wage for 3 months
She won't have it tho wants to go and do her best and help out
People like her epitome what the nhs is about
I'm gutted and worried but so proud of her at the same time
Stay safe every one x

As hard as it sounds mate, imagine this was a guns and bullets war and not a science and medicine one. If your Mrs was a solidier and every other soldier was fighting you wouldn't want her to stay at home.

She is a soldier right now, she is on a different battlefield, but she is still fighting and protecting us all as if she was in a trench with a rifle in her hand.

Thank her every night as much as you can for what she does, I know my two parents in their 80's do.

Stay safe.

 

[SiMCFC]

Any one else in the same predicament?
My Mrs who works at the hospital is due to start helping out on the coronavirus wards from Tuesday
I'm kicking off like fuck saying fuck it off it ain't worth it for 17k a year live off my wage for 3 months
She won't have it tho wants to go and do her best and help out
People like her epitome what the nhs is about
I'm gutted and worried but so proud of her at the same time
Stay safe every one x

Exactly the same situation, throw in a 16 month old with constant chest infections (currently has one), i've shown and still showing all symptoms (temperature, barking cough, throat like gravel, headache, etc) but negative swab result so she was back in this morning as her occupational health and manager have pushed it all week, to say i'm shitting myself is an understatement. Hope your Mrs stays safe mate, scary times.

 

[BlueAnorak]

It is a difficult balance,it is interesting boris feels the need to write to us and say this is going to get worse before it gets better,was that always the plan or does he know something we don't,italy are getting restless over food,we are different in that we half half a million volunteers to keep food deliveries going,one guy in italty was pleading with police that he has no money,i think the key is to keep both of those flowing here

Even the most optimistic predictions say it is going to get worse before it gets better. Boris is simply ramming home the fact.

 

[urban genie]

Easier said than done that pal. Have you any idea how much of what you buy comes from China? Apart from what you eat, there is barely a thing that may not have been made there and it's often impossible to tell at the time of purchase, and sometimes even afterwards.

I suppose people on here boycotting chinese stuff are ditching city then?

Or at least 13.79% of the club

 

[Chippy_boy]

An interesting stat: More people died from this yesterday than have died from in in China in total.

Wow. Every single day from now on, that will continue to be the case and given the world is nowhere near the peak, I imagine it will be the case for months.

Interesting (and deeply saddening) but so what? Well if it only carries on like this for a couple of months, that would the death count outside of China is more than 60x that of China itself. Probably much more, depending on how high the world daily death rate gets.

And yet China accounts for 1/6th of the world's population. It only goes to show how the world has dropped the ball on this. A country with 1/6th of the world population is going to end up with less than 1/60th of the deaths. My guess is a much smaller fraction indeed - maybe 1/600th.

China showed us how best to respond with an immediate lockdown and severe travel restrictions in their own country. But we - not just here in the UK but pretty much everywhere else - waited too long and allowed people to freely move around whilst the virus was silently permeating the population. And we will get to see the results of that play out every day for the next few months.

 

[BlueAnorak]

It's a personal decision Kaz but I will be avoiding buying Chinese products from now on. Most of its crap anyway.

Ditto.
China lied. China denied what was happening They tried to hide it. They did nothing to stop it spreading out of their country. By the time they realised it couldn't be hidden and that they needed to do somthing, it was too late.
Taiwan dealt with the CCP the way they should be dealt with.
There is no fucking way that I will knowingly buy anything made in China again until the CCP come clean and do somthing about their abysmal animal farming, slaughter, market and veterinary practices. It's not just Wet Markets either. They wiped out their pig population last year due to the same culture of deceipt:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/simina...isis-will-impact-global-trade-well-into-2020/

 

[SWP's back]

I suppose people on here boycotting chinese stuff are ditching city then?

Or at least 13.79% of the club

That’s the ticket office boycotted

 

[jay_mcfc]

An interesting stat: More people died from this yesterday than have died from in in China in total.

Wow. Every single day from now on, that will continue to be the case and given the world is nowhere near the peak, I imagine it will be the case for months.

Interesting (and deeply saddening) but so what? Well if it only carries on like this for a couple of months, that would the death count outside of China is more than 60x that of China itself. Probably much more, depending on how high the world daily death rate gets.

And yet China accounts for 1/6th of the world's population. It only goes to show how the world has dropped the ball on this. A country with 1/6th of the world population is going to end up with less than 1/60th of the deaths. My guess is a much smaller fraction indeed - maybe 1/600th.

China showed us how best to respond with an immediate lockdown and severe travel restrictions in their own country. But we - not just here in the UK but pretty much everywhere else - waited too long and allowed people to freely move around whilst the virus was silently permeating the population. And we will get to see the results of that play out every day for the next few months.

Whilst Italy and Spain were still too slow, especially not locking down the epicentres, they can be excused to a degree because it was rampant in those areas before the knew about. Other countries don't have that excuse. Sweden is still going about as normal. Madness.

 

[Chippy_boy]

This is a good Analysis


By BBC health reporter Philippa Roxby

Despite today's news of the largest rise in people dying in the UK with Covid-19, the message is that everything we are all doing now to reduce social contact is having an impact - we just can't see it in the figures yet.

That's because it takes time for the effects of not going out and not going to work to be felt in hospitals, where the most seriously ill are being tested and some are, sadly, dying.

The epidemic is expected to peak in the UK in the next two to three weeks.

Until then, it is likely the number of people confirmed to have the coronavirus and the number of people dying after testing positive for the virus will continue to grow at a similar pace - doubling every two or three days.

The hope is that everyone's efforts now to stay at home and reduce the spread of this deadly virus will slow that growth rate at the right time, and, in time, bring it down.

Every one of us now has a part to play in making that happen.

I sincerely hope the above is wildly pessimistically wrong !

"the number of people dying after testing positive for the virus will continue to grow at a similar pace - doubling every two or three days."

Let's say it's only every 3 days and also that the peak is only 2 weeks away not 3. The best case interpretation of that quote.

That would mean 6,000 people dying every day at the peak.

Surely that must be wrong? I imagine the death rate will not rise so fast because many people have been self isolated for weeks now and way before the government asked us to. Hopefully that will have an effect. If not then our prospects are way worse than those of Italy.

 

[inchy14]

An interesting stat: More people died from this yesterday than have died from in in China in total.

Wow. Every single day from now on, that will continue to be the case and given the world is nowhere near the peak, I imagine it will be the case for months.

Interesting (and deeply saddening) but so what? Well if it only carries on like this for a couple of months, that would the death count outside of China is more than 60x that of China itself. Probably much more, depending on how high the world daily death rate gets.

And yet China accounts for 1/6th of the world's population. It only goes to show how the world has dropped the ball on this. A country with 1/6th of the world population is going to end up with less than 1/60th of the deaths. My guess is a much smaller fraction indeed - maybe 1/600th.

China showed us how best to respond with an immediate lockdown and severe travel restrictions in their own country. But we - not just here in the UK but pretty much everywhere else - waited too long and allowed people to freely move around whilst the virus was silently permeating the population. And we will get to see the results of that play out every day for the next few months.

If you think the Chinese figures are accurate you’re fucking deluded.
And as for the rest of the world dropping the ball, that finger wants pointing at China and the WHO.

 

[city saint]

On another forum which most likely has threads such as;

• Favourite flavour of crayon
• Tastiest windows to lick
• Mouth breathing for beginners
• Sisters - the forbidden love

how come you know all the best sites,any chance you can list them all

 

[Chippy_boy]

If you think the Chinese figures are accurate you’re fucking deluded.
And as for the rest of the world dropping the ball, that finger wants pointing at China and the WHO.

I agree about the WHO. As to whether China's numbers are reliable, who knows. But they would have to be out by a factor of more than 10x - not just a bit out - for them to have not fared better than the rest of the planet.

 

[BlueAnorak]

An interesting stat: More people died from this yesterday than have died from in in China in total.

Wow. Every single day from now on, that will continue to be the case and given the world is nowhere near the peak, I imagine it will be the case for months.

Interesting (and deeply saddening) but so what? Well if it only carries on like this for a couple of months, that would the death count outside of China is more than 60x that of China itself. Probably much more, depending on how high the world daily death rate gets.

And yet China accounts for 1/6th of the world's population. It only goes to show how the world has dropped the ball on this. A country with 1/6th of the world population is going to end up with less than 1/60th of the deaths. My guess is a much smaller fraction indeed - maybe 1/600th.

China showed us how best to respond with an immediate lockdown and severe travel restrictions in their own country. But we - not just here in the UK but pretty much everywhere else - waited too long and allowed people to freely move around whilst the virus was silently permeating the population. And we will get to see the results of that play out every day for the next few months.

Immediate Chinese lock down? Only if you're talking about locking down whistle blowers.
They waited longer than Boris did to lock their people down - and then did it in the most draconian way possible.
The first cases were known at the end of November. They locked down on January 23. That's two months of exponential spread in the crowded City of Wuhan.