Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

Covid 19 is NOT airborne.
Airborne means it’s in the air and persists.
Covid 19 is only in the air for as long as the cough droplets are.
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
What about players who are sweating with saliva seeping from there mouths being touch by another player's arms that are sweaty, and then that player inadvertently touching his face and mouth?

Does that seem safe to you?
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On the basis the players are tested and there is 22 + the ref. I'd say it is low risk. If one had the virus it would be an issue so Sunday league isn't going to start anytime soon but professional clubs could do this pretty safely.

onceabluealways said:
Virtually every person touches the turnstiles
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quiet_riot said:
Yep, hardly anyone touches the turnstiles, lift buttons, doors, bars, concourse tables, handrails etc.
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True but this is all avoidable. My point was that transmission is via surfaces and lots of contact involved. 3 hours in a busy pub would be way more risk than 3 hours at a football game where you avoid touching things. 3 hours in your supermarket is likely much higher risk. It all comes down to surface contact - much less to do with the density of people in any specific area.
 
Wanderingwolf said:
It has to be either no champions no promotion and no relegation or completed warts and all. it can’t be something in the middle. There’s a few teams in the championship that are in the running for promotion likewise league one etc
Everything has a domino affect
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The PL don’t care about any other league or clubs if they could ban relegation and promotion they would be all the happier
 
Boris Becker’s Backhand said:
Transport fair enough. Never noticed people walking along rows touching seats in the ground though.
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If you've got a disability which affects your balance, and require a stick to help you keep yourself upright, you may find that a stick is of limited use when trying to get to your seat. Holding on to someone's seat is a prerequisite in those circumstances. If you're fit and able, get yourself totally bladdered and try to get to your seat without touching anyone.
I'm now in the former category, but encountered he same difficulties in the latter.
 
Gaudion M said:
On the basis the players are tested and there is 22 + the ref. I'd say it is low risk. If one had the virus it would be an issue so Sunday league isn't going to start anytime soon but professional clubs could do this pretty safely.

There is still an inherent risk which has consequences far outweighing the need to take at this stage.



True but this is all avoidable. My point was that transmission is via surfaces and lots of contact involved. 3 hours in a busy pub would be way more risk than 3 hours at a football game where you avoid touching things. 3 hours in your supermarket is likely much higher risk. It all comes down to surface contact - much less to do with the density of people in any specific area.
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Gaudion M said:
On the basis the players are tested and there is 22 + the ref. I'd say it is low risk. If one had the virus it would be an issue so Sunday league isn't going to start anytime soon but professional clubs could do this pretty safely.





True but this is all avoidable. My point was that transmission is via surfaces and lots of contact involved. 3 hours in a busy pub would be way more risk than 3 hours at a football game where you avoid touching things. 3 hours in your supermarket is likely much higher risk. It all comes down to surface contact - much less to do with the density of people in any specific area.
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Its sort of avoidable but with say 40000 people if there are 10 carrIers then they are likely to pass it on to say 100 therefore R much greater than 1
 
crazyg said:
If you've got a disability which affects your balance, and require a stick to help you keep yourself upright, you may find that a stick is of limited use when trying to get to your seat. Holding on to someone's seat is a prerequisite in those circumstances. If you're fit and able, get yourself totally bladdered and try to get to your seat without touching anyone.
I'm now in the former category, but encountered he same difficulties in the latter.
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But there are relatively few people in both categories. Anyway it’s a moot point, the real issue is with the airborne virus outside the ground at various bottlenecks where social distancing is impossible. That said it’s equally impossible in supermarkets with moronic staff flouting the guidelines so is going to the match any more dangerous than popping down to the shops ?
 
i8rags said:
Tbh, Marvin probably knows as much as anyone on here about covid.
My opinion, when they tell most to go back to work then so should footballers. Like everyone else it won’t be as normal but it’s a start.
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I'm not sure I agree with this, when I go back to work we don't need medics, ambulances or coppers to be involved that could be better used elsewhere.
This is why entertainment will be the last things to reopen in the current climate, there won't be any shows at the arena for some time for the same reason and some people may not agree but football is essentially an entertainment business.
There's reports saying that the Premier League paid over £4m to buy covid testing kits for the club's but it should be a national disgrace that so many of these rare tests have gone to entertainers, give this money and tests to the people dealing with the virus and caring for the sick people so that we can then get this thing under some measure of control as quickly as possible. Then look at how to safely bring back sports and entertainment.
 
So, the bottom clubs wont except playing at a neutral ground without relegation being cancelled as they lose the advantage of a home game.
And the top clubs won't except a league expanded to 21...
Ferrets in a sack.
 
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Boris Becker’s Backhand said:
Quite easy to do with a deft piece of footwork but that’s not the point. How many seats other than your own do you touch at the match ?
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But what happens when you are unable to use deft footwork to bring your seat down? YOU HAVE TO TOUCH THE SEAT!! THAT IS THE POINT you seem unable to grasp. The final sentence was answered at my post #9206. You may wish to reread it to refresh your memory.
 
may have been asked already but if there is no relegation but promotion goes on what happens to the 3rd place play off position?
 
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