Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

[DontLookBackInAnger]

Here's a clue.

Two teams that wear red need the money and broadcasters want the kudos for covering it.

still don't get it if you delay the end to this season using my scenario Liverpool still win the league, the chances of a "normal" season next year are as close to nil as you could get.....so we are already looking at two screwed up seasons why rush finishing screwing up this year and voiding the league would see leagues in court up and down the country with issues all over the place.....(Bury and Bolton both I'm sure will have major issues if we go down that route, not to mention the teams that are screwed by losing the progress they have made this year)

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Good point mate. However I have it on good authority that the PL in its musings have already come up with two possible solutions to this problem. The first is to have a special Refmask with a built-in whistle properly sealed of course using silicon or something. I am about to go to my shed to knock one up for the PL to try out using one cup of the wife's bra. The second solution is to dispense with referees altogether and just use VAR especially since VAR has been so universally loved and efficiently used since its inception . The VAR ref would "whistle" by activating a loud klaxon installed in all grounds.

Hard to choose between two such commonsense solutions.

The tragic thing is that even after reading your post twice I'm not sure if it's a piss take.

 

[danielwood5]

It’s a job, without fans football is about as risky as most other jobs. If I get told work is ok then I believe it’s ok for all. I don’t want to go back til it’s safe but when it is so, then I’m of the opinion it’s safe for all.

I agree, with no fans there then for the players it's about as risky, or probably less so, than me goingbto my office job. The point I'm trying to make though is that the medical staff that would have to be present at these games/isolation camps could be put to much better use at this present time than staffing a football game. Even if things get back to normal in the next month or so then all the medical staff that have been working ridiculous hours over the last few months deserve a break, having to babysit god knows many teams at St George's Park or whatever neutral ground plan they're discussing today (is just the Premier League quarantining and playing at neutral venues or all levels of the football pyramid?) should be at the absolutely bottom of the list of things to get done when this is over.
Same with coppers, even if there's no fans in the grounds I suspect a significant amount of morons will turn up at stadiums anyway or go piling into each others homes for huge piss ups.
There's a real difference between reopening everything gradually while maintaining some form of caution and social distancing and to just saying 'well if it's safe for me to work, it's safe for everyone'. Mitigating risk doesn't work like that and it's also a fact that we will need to be strategic about the resources we have. That's why I think the entertainment industry will be the very last to be reopened in any significant way as the resources needed for even behind closed doors games are needed more urgently elsewhere.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

My own take would be to null and void the season, have no champion on relegation, promote three up from the Championship and start the new season in late July, thus allowing for things to settle down further and a proper pre-season for players.

More fixtures means more TV money. Shut the season down for a month through December - resume mid-Jan after the cold season starts kicking about.

Finish start of April and relegate six clubs - allowing more window for the Euros to start that summer.

Season 21-22 season then factors the moving of the World Cup in Qatar.

It won’t mean more tv money.
It will be the same pot diluted by three extra teams.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

If football starts again all be it behind closed doors, that's the green light for me as far as I'm concerned social distancing is over, I'm going to carry on as normal

Thats a pretty childish and selfish way of looking at things.

In what way does that end 'social distancing'?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

There were recent medical tests and investigations carried out in both the US and UK which showed that there was evidence showing the covid virus was still present in aerosol droplets much smaller than was first thought possible. The scientists conducting the test were yet to determine whether or not the virus was still in its contagious form whilst in these micro-droplets or whether they were "dead/harmless" but there existence has been reported. These aerosol droplets remain in the air for up to two hours after being exhaled which is much, much longer than was first thought and COULD be evidence that covid19 is in fact airborne.

I might do a search and post the relevant press releases to show you the evidence, but I probably won't as, tbh, I can't really be arsed. But there is evidence out there which suggests that you are/may be incorrect.

Maybe you could do the search yourself and save me the time and effort?

I think I’ll just settle for you talking unsubstantiated bullshit, if it’s alright with you.

 

[Akpowell]

What will normal look like,you wont be going to the match, cinemas ,concerts or the pub.

Oh aye yeah

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

My own take would be to null and void the season, have no champion on relegation, promote three up from the Championship and start the new season in late July, thus allowing for things to settle down further and a proper pre-season for players.

More fixtures means more TV money. Shut the season down for a month through December - resume mid-Jan after the cold season starts kicking about.

Finish start of April and relegate six clubs - allowing more window for the Euros to start that summer.

Season 21-22 season then factors the moving of the World Cup in Qatar.

Na. End the season now, put it in the record books as incomplete but all games played and trophies won to that point recognised going forward.

No champions, no promotion, 2 teams relegated (Dippers and rags), move to an 18 team league to allow a proper winter break, the FA Cup to move back to weekends and reduce fixture congestion.

Have 20 team Championship and League 1 and then regionalise from League 2 down to save costs and preserve more clubs.

 

[Keeper!]

My own take would be to null and void the season, have no champion on relegation, promote three up from the Championship and start the new season in late July, thus allowing for things to settle down further and a proper pre-season for players.

More fixtures means more TV money. Shut the season down for a month through December - resume mid-Jan after the cold season starts kicking about.

Finish start of April and relegate six clubs - allowing more window for the Euros to start that summer.

Season 21-22 season then factors the moving of the World Cup in Qatar.

Agree with everything you say, relegation apart.
Any team with red in it's kit should be relegated, it's only the fair and proper thing to do.

 

[Akpowell]

Thats a pretty childish and selfish way of looking at things.

In what way does that end 'social distancing'?

If the players aren't social distancing why should we

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Good point mate. However I have it on good authority that the PL in its musings have already come up with two possible solutions to this problem. The first is to have a special Refmask with a built-in whistle properly sealed of course using silicon or something. I am about to go to my shed to knock one up for the PL to try out using one cup of the wife's bra. The second solution is to dispense with referees altogether and just use VAR especially since VAR has been so universally loved and efficiently used since its inception . The VAR ref would "whistle" by activating a loud klaxon installed in all grounds.

Hard to choose between two such commonsense solutions.

Maybe they will give the ref a horn off a clowns car.

 

[mat]

still don't get it if you delay the end to this season using my scenario Liverpool still win the league, the chances of a "normal" season next year are as close to nil as you could get.....so we are already looking at two screwed up seasons why rush finishing screwing up this year and voiding the league would see leagues in court up and down the country with issues all over the place.....(Bury and Bolton both I'm sure will have major issues if we go down that route, not to mention the teams that are screwed by losing the progress they have made this year)

The PL want the iconic picture of the scouse lifting the trophy. They are banking on the image whacking up the foreign TV money which is far more lucrative than the domestic one. It's all about greed over human life. A microcosm of the current government policy.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

I think I’ll just settle for you talking unsubstantiated bullshit, if it’s alright with you.

Was writing that response any easier than typing "covid 19 may be airborne" into your search engine?

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Study suggesting that coronavirus genetic material can persist in the air (published 27/04/2020)

A study has been published in Nature which found coronavirus RNA, a type of genetic material, was detectable in the air of hospitals in China.

The study authors proposed that this could be evidence of airborne transmission of the virus, which goes beyond the established evidence of large droplet transmission.

But they highlighted that their findings were of airborne genetic material only, not the functional virus itself – so said that more research is needed....

That's the start of just 1 of "too many to count" reports on the subject (this one is from channel4.com)

Unsubstantiated bullshit it is not.

 

[waspish]

What I don't get is the rush to end this season, it seems clear that this year and next is going to be disrupted by current events, you might even be in the crazy position that next years Europa and Champions League's start before this years finishes(Europa League is due to start end of June). The solution seems pretty simple finish this season when you can and simply run the league campaign next... no FA Cup, League Cup, European Football(not least to stop the spread of the virus between players and officials). even if next season starts Christmas time you could fit in the required games and be back to an August start for 21/22

Yep they have till August next year to finish the league.

 

[kaz7]

It’s a job, without fans football is about as risky as most other jobs. If I get told work is ok then I believe it’s ok for all. I don’t want to go back til it’s safe but when it is so, then I’m of the opinion it’s safe for all.

You first then,it is a contact sport the debate begins and ends there,nobody else is allowed to touch anyone outside of their households ffs

 

[willipp]

If the players aren't social distancing why should we

Maybe switch the actual news on instead of sky sports news for once and there's your answer.

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

The PL want the iconic picture of the scouse lifting the trophy. They are banking on the image whacking up the foreign TV money which is far more lucrative than the domestic one. It's all about greed over human life. A microcosm of the current government policy.

The government has a policy??? I thought Boris was making it up as we went along

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

How can the likes of Richard Scudamore current Chairman of the Premier League, know better than the Doctors and the Scientific experts. In saying that it is safe to play football when they are still unsure as to how long it stays both in the air and on the ground or surfaces. Plus is he just a craven poltroon of a coward, and is just doing what the chairman of the rags and dippers want.

If that is what he is doing just following what they want, then he should do the decent thing and resign straight away. I don't know the new chairman of the Premier League a Mr Hoffman, he says he is a Coventry City fan, but my guess is that he will still jump to the tune of what the dippers and rags want.

You may not like Nicola Sturgeon as a person, but at todays press conference she said that the lockdown measures may have to stay for another fortnight. This is to make sure that the Covid19 virus is under control, and those catching or dying from it is coming down from day to day. We do not want to see it coming back by releasing the lockdown measures to soon.

On todays Sky News they said that the official death rate in China from this Covid19 was around 4,500 now if you believe that you will believe anything. Portugal had the least per capita due to the Government having a lockdown as soon as the first few died of Covid19. So why is our Government trying to kid us that it would be good for the welling being of the nation if football was to be brought back.

The Observer had a poll which had only 20% wanted football to be brought back, how many were surveyed I don't know. So much that the nation wanted football back.

 

[Barcon]

What the fuck is a craven poltroon?