Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

[PannickAtTheDisco]

We got he luck in the first leg and still bottled it, like we do every year in the CL.

We got a fair penalty, it's not so much luck as getting a fair call. Still would have won if not for being screwed, you need that luck. Dembele missing a sitter right at the end in the Nou Camp to make it 4-0 against the Dippers, all the cheating favours they got the year before to knock us out etc. Consistent, top quality doesn't win the CL more often than not, the teams that do tend to have sizeable chunks of luck when they most need them to get by. It's knockout football.

 

[Sir peace frog]

City fans seem obsessed with Liverpool now. Completely negative emotion. City can still win things and although we can't be there, it will still be an achievement by the players who we still have a connection with because the break is temporary.

This thread is depressing. Every time I open it, there's another football fan hating on the game that has given us so much pleasure. Self-harm. Remember the Aguero 93:20 moment, and Yaya's goals at Wembley.

I am told football has shown its greed. Hello. The profit motive has run society ever since the factory owners displaced the land-owners. Football is no more capital and labour than your own employer who will be calling on your services sooner rather than later. Some people claim football doesn't care about health. I am not so sure about this but feel instinctively that the transmission of respiratory viruses takes place in closed settings like call centres, offices, restaurants, clubs, pubs, factories and homes. All places where fans are and where some football players are too.I suspect footballers are more likely to fall ill at home or in socialising than in playing football in the open air.

A significant objection is that when people are dying they do not feel in the mood to watch football. And yet people watch films, and read books and do many things to take their minds off football. It is good to do so.

It's become trendy to bash football just like it was in the 1980s. Seems like it's happening again.

I replied earlier giving you the view of the ex chelsea physio, you obviously didn't see it, players are more prone to infection because of the amount of physical activity, can't be arsed retracing my posts, so to answer you, players are more at risk playing and training than any other group of "workers " bar obviously those that have contact with the virus patients

 

[kaz7]

The sensible suggestion being the one er, suggested...in my opinion of course.....pause the season, and resume it as and when safe to do so.....could easily be the end of the year.

So if next season is cancelled or postponed, there are essentially not as many consequences.....possibly just dont have a 20/21 season

Erm next year we should have less people dying but let's push to finish this one when we haven't even really started unlocking the nation,forget this season and plan for the next one when things are clearer

 

[kaz7]

Danger to those under the age of 45 is minimal. It’s a very selective disease.

minimal lol

 

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

minimal lol

Statistically it’s minimal

 

[kaz7]

You’re depressing.

Full of bollocks,risking lives to play football when you can't hug family

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Statistically it’s minimal

.9% in Italy. Similar in New York

If you were told there was a one in a hundred chance of dying if you went to a football match, would you go?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Statistically it’s minimal

Rubbish
Less chance of dying but still very dangerous. We have little data yet for the way this disease absolutely wrecks people’s lungs permanently. There is plenty of anecdotal stuff coming in though.

 

[kaz7]

Statistically it’s minimal

That is ok then,don't worry about players having no symptoms spreading it to their families

All ages are getting very sick and need ventilating and have long lasting lung damage but so long as they don't die all is well

Righto

 

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

Rubbish
Less chance of dying but still very dangerous. We have little data yet for the way this disease absolutely wrecks people’s lungs permanently. There is plenty of anecdotal stuff coming in though.

That is ok then,don't worry about players having no symptoms spreading it to their families

All ages are getting very sick and need ventilating and have long lasting lung damage but so long as they don't die all is wel!

Righto

Tiny percentage of under 45s who have it need hospital treatment.

If we have little data about “the way this disease absolutely wrecks people’s lungs permanently” then how do you know it does ??

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

The ONLY reason people want to end and void the season is so that Liverpool dont win the league. Thats it.

Next season starting at the normal time wont happen....so what is the problem with just delaying things, resuming this season at a later, safer date? Next season will be delayed anyway...if it starts later adjustments could possibly be made for facilitating games in the shorter time frame....maybe cancel the league cup...even FA cup....

Like, feck Liverpool...but all these ridiculous suggestions of facilitating matches as quickly as possible are just that, ridiculous.

Just wait.

 

[purplenose]

You are right. I probably should have said some armchair fans. I am really thinking about the sort of fanboys who have no real emotional attachment to football. There seems to be a whole generation of them. They have probably never attended matches.

Certainly there are many of the type you describe, but even they will I think find games in empty stadiums underwhelming. Its different world and a different game than the one many of us grew up with and as we know there are many reasons for that. I rarely go these days but knowing and to a degree hearing people with the passion I used to have when attending does come across when watching on the TV.

I actually think the footballing authorities have forgotten how vital fans are for the "product and experience". I actually think the fans have been brainwashed into forgetting that they are as important as the players managers referees all the people that make the game what it is. Take thousands of those people away from the stadium and you are left with a shell that really is not that exciting.

 

[Sir peace frog]

The ONLY reason people want to end and void the season is so that Liverpool dont win the league. Thats it.
The FA have a casting vote over the pl a bit like the house of lords can fuck off an idea, are you really suggesting that the Fa will fuck

Next season starting at the normal time wont happen....so what is the problem with just delaying things, resuming this season at a later, safer date? Next season will be delayed anyway...if it starts later adjustments could possibly be made for facilitating games in the shorter time frame....maybe cancel the league cup...even FA cup....

Like, feck Liverpool...but all these ridiculous suggestions of facilitating matches as quickly as possible are just that, ridiculous.

Just wait.

The ONLY reason people want to end and void the season is so that Liverpool dont win the league. Thats it.

Next season starting at the normal time wont happen....so what is the problem with just delaying things, resuming this season at a later, safer date? Next season will be delayed anyway...if it starts later adjustments could possibly be made for facilitating games in the shorter time frame....maybe cancel the league cup...even FA cup....

Like, feck Liverpool...but all these ridiculous suggestions of facilitating matches as quickly as possible are just that, ridiculous.

Just wait.

Lets think about your suggestions for a moment,
Fuck the FA CUP off,eeerm dont think the FA would like that idea,

 

[AlexWilliamsGloves]

Lets think about your suggestions for a moment,
Fuck the FA CUP off,eeerm dont think the FA would like that idea,

To ensure that next season actually happens? Probably an easier decision than arbitrarily deciding this season.

The thing is, its still wait and see. Sort this season sensibly first and then sort out next season afterwards...then both can happen rather than just one

 

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

.9% in Italy. Similar in New York

If you were told there was a one in a hundred chance of dying if you went to a football match, would you go?

But it’s not a 1% chance of dying if I go to a match, it’s a 1% chance of dying IF i catch it so the real percentage is much lower.

 

[gingerprince]

PL Resumption Meeting 1 Minutes : Suspend x2 weeks as Arteta will be recovered by then & still plenty of time to fit in x2 liverpool games

PL Resumption Meeting 2 Minutes : Suspend another couple of weeks, im sure we will be past the peak by then. Just in case, best spread a
few rumours that PL could lose 400 million & travesty if Liverpool not crowned champions @ Anfield.
Maybe tweak remaining schedule so Liverpool play 1st two games @ home, midweek under floodlights...

PL Resumption Meeting 3 Minutes : This is getting serious, [as in we may not get Liverpool over the line]. Ramp up PR we need everyone telling
everyone that PL is a special case, no, stronger than that. Yes,that's it of course! PL resumption would be a
Beacon of Light for whole Country, a shining example that Country is turning the corner, returning to normal.
See if PR team can get Capt Tom to maybe dribble a PL branded ball down the garden, preferably wearing a
Liverpool top, tell him he can pin his medals to it if he gets narky.That should do the trick & suspend again..!

PL Resumption Meeting 4 Minutes : mmmm, not good. We are getting some stick in press. Get PR to state we will only resume PL when govt says
it is safe to do so. However, email all clubs with May 25th resume training date and email finalised dates of all
remaining games. Im sure govt will rubber stamp them. This resume word isnt strong enough, replace with
some made up, pseudo focus group jargon, that sounds like its undeniably going to actually happen instead!
Maybe Project Restart to get Liverpool over the line?...mmmm its good,but maybe best drop the ending?

Project Restart Meeting 5 Minutes : Great! Govt has agreed our Project Restart action plan but on strict proviso that behind closed doors at a few neutral venues. Nothing can stop us now.! What? Clubs vetoed neutral grounds? Aaaargh! Go back to govt &
say, to be Covid Secure we have taken advice of Fenway Sports Science Group who believe playing at each of
Clubs grounds will help to reduce 'R' If they get arsey, remind them they changed their mind on herd immunity & masks... Whilst you are there, get them to include PL players on the exemption list for x14 day quarantine
period, if flying in from abroad, [even if they aren't French]. VAR? No we don't need that, well not anymore...
Thats It! Liverpool...Champions of England!...What? Players have voted NOT to play?...Can we not just play
without them.......

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

But it’s not a 1% chance of dying if I go to a match, it’s a 1% chance of dying IF i catch it so the real percentage is much lower.

So you're willing to play those odds? The more you go out the more chance you have of catching it.

The house always wins

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

But it’s not a 1% chance of dying if I go to a match, it’s a 1% chance of dying IF i catch it so the real percentage is much lower.

So what's acceptable risk of dying to watch a football match then? Or to play in one ? Liverpool fans need not answer this as we know they are so desparate to finish the season their judgement is clouded somewhat.

 

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

So you're willing to play those odds? The more you go out the more chance you have of catching it.

The house always wins

You’re right it’s a numbers game but for vast swathes of the population it’s a very low level danger. Many other things that many people routinely do are also inherently dangerous but we do them.

 

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

So what's acceptable risk of dying to watch a football match then? Or to play in one ?

What’s an acceptable risk to go shopping for things we don’t really need ?